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  • PeanutsMolloy
    PeanutsMolloy Posts: 6,711
    edited January 2018
    As you were.
    A shed load of defections at confirmation stage today sees the original 20 (including Vicente, once again top-weight, Raz de Maree and Milansbar) less Splash Of Ginge and Sir Mangan, looking like lining up.
    So, prior to final decs, the bottom two are Rathlin Rose and Alfie Spinner (interesting e/w at 33/1), both set to carry 10-07.
    Going's currently heavy, of course. Not too much rain in the forecast so fingers crossed this time.
    More anon.
  • PeanutsMolloy
    PeanutsMolloy Posts: 6,711
    edited January 2018
    Even if there are more defections at decs, none of the 5 that could come in, albeit at <10-07, appeal or would materially impact the overall complexion of Saturday's Welsh GN from a weights-perspective.
    Rathlin Rose doesn't tick the boxes either but ALFIE SPINNER (13-10-07) at the price most certainly does, at least as place potential, and I've had a nibble each-way at 33/1. Reasons:
    Trip - Placed in 2 minor Nationals over 28f+ (one on heavy) as an 8 y-o. Failed to fulfil potential with Nick Williams but since move to Kerry Lee in 2016, despite advancing years, he's showing best and most consistent form since placing in both Badger Ales and Becher Chases 3 years ago. Cut out the running for a long way in the 33f Midlands National last March, eventually 23L 9th. 3 of Saturday's rivals (Chase The Spud, Mysteree and Houblon Des Obeaux) finished ahead that day but, to differing degrees, he's better off against each (and Final Nudge) at the weights and there are more chinks in their armour (IMHO) in the Chepstow marathon.
    Form - dropped 3lbs since Uttoxeter and last run a strong-finishing 2nd (2L) to Wild West Wind in 3m Welsh GN Trial over the course in November on heavy (same OR132 on Saturday and so neck and neck at the weights with 3rd Milansbar, 7lbs better off vs WWW).
    Course - goes well at Chepstow (a win and two near-misses from 5 chases) despite a tendency to shape a little right at obstacles (Chepstow's long straights more forgiving of that than twisty Uttoxeter). Will love the ground.
    So my final team for Saturday (all each way):
    VICENTE 16/1
    RAZ DE MAREE 25/1
    MILANSBSAR - original bet at 20s voided, reloaded at 25/1
    ALFIE SPINNER 33/1
    All the best everyone.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    on chase the spud for the welsh gn.

    had a good double of yanworth and wholestone yesterday
  • PeanutsMolloy
    PeanutsMolloy Posts: 6,711
    edited January 2018
    Rock The Kasbah, Houblon Des Obeaux and Folsom Blue all scratched this morning at decs.
    On The Road, former runner-up Firebird Flyer and former winner Emperors Choice all run.
    The last ran only 7 days ago (winning in the mud at Haydock after a handicap de-rating 2-year barren spell) but in conditions tomorrow is a real threat (carries only 10 stone after the jockey's 3lb claim).
    Still happy with my 4. Alfie Spinner will have 5lbs taken off and carry 10-02 with a decent conditional jock on board.
    Complexion of the race not materially changed weights-wise. Only 5 of the 20 will carry <10-09 and, while a young 'un can certainly win, as 4 of the 6 at the bottom of the weights were 10y-o+ at original race-date, the Age stat favouring 6~8y-o can be set-aside for this one.
  • Seems to be a rumour that, with the Rock withdrawn, Dickie Johnson's going to ride Alfie Spinner. Gave him a peach of a ride last time out in the Welsh GN Trial.
    Worth the extra 5lbs if so methinks.
  • Big_Bob
    Big_Bob Posts: 1,536
    Dickie is going to Sandown peanuts
    I've changed my two for the national: gone for MYSTEREE & BUCKHORN TIMOTHY.
  • Big_Bob said:

    Dickie is going to Sandown peanuts
    I've changed my two for the national: gone for MYSTEREE & BUCKHORN TIMOTHY.

    No sweat, I'll take the 5lbs :smiley:
    Best of luck Bob.
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    Chase The Spud for me
  • WelshAddick
    WelshAddick Posts: 1,321
    I’m here at Chepstow. It’s bloody freezing.
  • Big_Bob
    Big_Bob Posts: 1,536
    Best of luck to you too peanuts. The only one I can't have is yours is Vicente- lugging top weight around Chepstow on bottomless ground. Ps I know native river did it last year but not in the same class imo!

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  • Big_Bob
    Big_Bob Posts: 1,536

    I’m here at Chepstow. It’s bloody freezing.

    Enjoy your day mate.
  • Big_Bob said:

    Best of luck to you too peanuts. The only one I can't have is yours is Vicente- lugging top weight around Chepstow on bottomless ground. Ps I know native river did it last year but not in the same class imo!

    You may well be proved right Bob though, if you include near-misses, the record of top-weights in the Welsh GN over the years isn't as shabby as one might think.
    3/4 of the field today, incl most of the fancies are carrying weights that look a lot by historic standards for the race.
    We'll see.
    Biggest threats for me are Emperors Choice (might have a win saver) and Mysteree.
    All the best.
  • Big_Bob
    Big_Bob Posts: 1,536
    So many of the horses look like they've been laid out for the race, which is making it extremely difficult to call.
    MYSTEREE's record first time out in NY is amazing, coupled with enjoying the ground.
  • Can't see the race as out - mrs Molloy's birthday - so radio silence from me till I get to see it recorded later.
    TTFN
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,979
    Peanuts you’re ridiculous lol
  • alan dugdale
    alan dugdale Posts: 3,077
    Genius.
  • Peanuts is our hero.
  • @PeanutsMolloy you beauty.
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,223
    Absolutely outrageous...
  • Cheers Peanuts you beauty!!!!
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  • Big_Bob
    Big_Bob Posts: 1,536
    edited January 2018
    Brilliant @PeanutsMolloy
  • Well done Peanuts
  • CHG
    CHG Posts: 4,529
    Peanuts!!!!!! Well done, utter ledge
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    You've still got it @PeanutsMolloy !

    Amazing!
  • alan dugdale
    alan dugdale Posts: 3,077
    Winner, second and the forecast.
    I know you’re off air till later, Peanuts - but where was the tricast ?!
    Legend.
  • Top man Peanuts.
  • alan dugdale
    alan dugdale Posts: 3,077
    If only old Buywise had a different jockey throughout his career, he’d have won a couple more.
  • PeanutsMolloy
    PeanutsMolloy Posts: 6,711
    edited January 2018
    Holy s&&t. You're too kind chaps (and ladies - sincere apologies Len\'s_little_girl)
    It's so nice when the old fellas have their day......my horses done OK aswell :smiley:
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Following Peanuts tips is like buying bitcoin... you know you should've done it.