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"...meet the new boss, same as the old boss..." ?MountsfieldPark said:
Otoh, those who started to forgive the regime and get excited about what CW might do should learn the words of the song, Won't Get Fooled Again.Dazzler21 said:Those pleased about this are flipping mental.
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I believe our playing budget was the 5th lowest - it was the third lowest the season before - but I believe our coaches were paid less than Wilder is paid at Northampton, and considerably lower than the going rate for a Championship manager. That's one straightforward explanation.Rob62 said:
No way did we end up with the third lowest budget in the league, not a chance. Roland himself admitted we had gone over budget. Which makes the whole thing even worse.PragueAddick said:People in the football business like to tell us it isn't like normal business. Doesn't seem that way to me.
You budget for the third lowest wages in the league? You end up in the third lowest position. Or worse, if you spend the money badly.
You are a club in the Third Division, and you offer a job to a manager who is also in the Third Division and is seen as a rising star. You are one of several businesses interested in getting him. But you have the reputation as one of the worst employers in the business. He decides to turn you down.
Not a mystery, not witchcraft, not rocket science. A perfectly normal set of business outcomes.8 -
Noone likes us we dont care!
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The CW JT in HD...Clem_Snide said:Perhaps he objected to the CCTV camera Kajones wanted to put in his toilet?
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Just goes to prove there is no new way of thinking at all. Good for CW. Whoever we get will just be another friggen puppet.
Roland Out!!!!0 -
Curbs wouldn't come because the fans make it so hard for the players.Essex_Robin said:Curbs, Spread the word. Positive action
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Clark Kent.ValleyGary said:
Please tell me thats Steve not LeePaddyP17 said:FYI Clark is now at 5/1. Only asked about him 20 minutes ago and has immediately moved in from 8/1
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Just got in and seen all this!
Do I laugh or cry?
Seriously, anyone who has bought a season ticket, tell the club you have changed your mind and ask for a refund.4 -
Ok. You and Katrien could have some nose fight come the start of the seasoncolin1961 said:Everything agreed press release planned for tomorrow but Charlton wanted it sorted today but Wilder wanted to see the other options before deciding , so Charlton pulled the plug .....
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The Sheff U angle is perfectly believable. Likewise it could easily be a story being put out by the club to try and cover up the fact they still want to meddle in transfer policy.
More likely both are true. Likely the club wouldn't make their assurances to Wilder as concrete hard as he would have liked, this may have had him wavering but might not have been enough on its own for him to turn down the job. However, once the Sheff U interest became known, he was presented with the possibility of a job at a bigger club than Northampton but one which is being run in a, shall we say, a more conventional fashion than CAFC. Factor in it's close to his home and it's an easy decision for him.
In some ways I don't blame the club for not wanting to be too heavily dictated to by a manager, after all this is Chris Wilder we are talking about signing, not Pep Guardiola. We'd be taking a bit of a punt on him as much as he would on Charlton so probably shouldn't be blindly given too much power. I'm sure enshrining that kind of thing in written a contract isn't normal practice. The trouble is though, at most clubs manager control over transfers is kind of taken as written anyway but, even if they genuinely are intending to change their ways (and that I accept if highly debatable), CAFC's reputation is so damaged in the game now by the shenanigans of the last 2 years that they have painted themselves into this corner. Any self respecting English manager, especially one who isn't out of work and desperate for a pay cheque, is going to want more than just the word of previously duplicitous CEO/Owner. SO we're left with one of 3 outcomes, from least likely to most likely (imho):
1) The club relents and gives in to the demands of a quality English manager, CW or otherwise;
2) The club makes verbal concessions or stands firm on current positions and appoints and substandard English manager who will accept the terms because they just want any old job;
3) Status quo, network manager appointed.7 -
Wilder may have fallen through, but word is that the new scout is locked on. Katrine's gone down to pcworld to pick him up this afternoon. Apparently, everyone's very excited: he has an SSD and 32GB RAM.30
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Lump on Curbs what? Arm, head, left testicle?Essex_Robin said:Lump on Curbs
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Fortune 82nd Minute said:
Just got in and seen all this!
Do I laugh or cry?
Seriously, anyone who has bought a season ticket, tell the club you have changed your mind and ask for a refund.
Why would anyone buy a season ticket, are we not in dispute???0 -
I briefly hoped that RD might have learnt something, but no. He's going to have yet another go at doing it his way, isn't he?
I give up.0 -
Do we need a manager? We've had pie cam and sofa cam. Maybe interim manager cam would do the trick?1
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You're such a mug it's actually embarrassing now.colin1961 said:Everything agreed press release planned for tomorrow but Charlton wanted it sorted today but Wilder wanted to see the other options before deciding , so Charlton pulled the plug .....
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Agreed. I thought L1 he'd just go all out, get back up and then revert.gilbertfilbert said:I briefly hoped that RD might have learnt something, but no. He's going to have yet another go at doing it his way, isn't he?
I give up.
But them not agreeing on things other than money tells me that RD is planning to have another go in L1. I honestly think we'll be fighting to avoid relegation.0 -
Free from 2.30 onwards? Very impressive that you're willing to work the same number of hours that our CEO puts in on a matchday.....pettgra said:
We will be fine. The Sofa has gone tits up; so the next matchday experience will be to drag some unsuspecting soul from one of the local pubs to fill in. If it is me I am usually free from 2.30 onwards.Chunes said:Odds on us starting the season without a manager?
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Chris Wilder will not be the new #cafc manager. Really wanted job but club refused to put the assurances over control, buying etc in writing
— Alex Varney (@lexvarney) May 11, 2016
(News Editor of Talkshite, 3 hrs ago)0 -
MountsfieldPark said:
Chris Wilder will not be the new #cafc manager. Really wanted job but club refused to put the assurances over control, buying etc in writing
— Alex Varney (@lexvarney) May 11, 2016
(News Editor of Talkshite, 3 hrs ago)
And son of Peter Varney.
Wonder what his dad is thinking about this mess?1 -
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RD: ( to Katrien) Listen, love, on your way home, could you return this VR copy of Football Manager back to Argos, it doesn't seem to be working properly....0
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No need for a manager as we're unlikely to have more than 11 players to start the season.cafcfan said:Do we need a manager? We've had pie cam and sofa cam. Maybe interim manager cam would do the trick?
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RD to buy the players, KM to pick the team, Simon Clark to coach, what can go wrong?2
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You're assuming that Northampton didn't know about it, which is a large assumption.AddicksAddict said:
It may happen all the time but that doesn't make it right. Also, how does using rhetoric to point out that Wilder is deceitful make me naîve?LargeAddick said:
sorry, but are you really that naive? It happens all the time.AddicksAddict said:
If this is true, and I have no reason to doubt you, doesn't that show Wilder up as duplicitous, happy to go behind the back of the club he's contracted to?Airman Brown said:
Wilder was in Belgium last week talking to our owner, before CAFC and NTFC announced any approach, so I'm not sure how much weight that carries TBF.shoearmy said:Our chairman has said there is other interest in CW and AK but no official approach.
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Am I alone in not knowing quite what to say about this total clusterfuck?0
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I know what to say. Total boycott until this regime fuck off4
