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  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    Felt slightly more happened in this first episode than the opener of last season. I also remember it took until about Episode 4 for last season to pick up momentum and we have already had some named character deaths to chew over. All in all a standard opening episode I reckon. I knew that they would not resolve the 'Is Jon Snow coming back' question in the first episode, but surely now either he comes back next episode or the Night's Watch get a hold of his body? Who knows.

    Also, I refrained from opening this thread until I had seen the episode. It isn't that hard - if you want to avoid spoilers, don't click on a thread called 'Game of Thrones' until you have caught up on the latest episode!! (ie from around 1am Monday).
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,192
    I figured the dogs weren't the violent type. Maybe Ramsay has a bunch who just track. He didn't want them ripped up, he had too much torture planned.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    Thought it was better than previous opening episodes. Plenty of blood to keep me happy.

    The last scene tho....distraught.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,241
    That last scene is the would ya of all would ya's

    And I bet Mehmet would
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,033
    That last scene !
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,192
    edited April 2016
    Each story got two scenes each mostly, I hope they don't do that too often as they have to squeeze so much story into too few sequences.

    This episode had a lot of setting up to do, so it's a hard one to judge. I did find it quite predictable as a result (particularly Sansa) at least until the end. At which point

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  • cfgs said:

    POTENTIAL SPOILER from today's episode.


    The end of that episode is the most horrific thing in the whole show so far.

    Ps where did the dogs and their handlers go that were pursuing Sansa?

    Didn't Brienne kill them all?
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    The dogs were only bloodhounds as opposed to hunting dogs, I imagine the handlers were killed off screen or legged it and the dogs legged it too.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    edited April 2016
    I thought that big guys axe was finally going to do some damage. I quite like that it didn't work out like that.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    That ending.. Wow!! I was hoping them bringing Jon back was going to be weird and darker than we thought and it's definitely heading that way! Excellent!
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  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    Nooooooooo bastard !!!
  • That Sand sister in Dorne who killed the big black guy is very fit.
  • buckshee
    buckshee Posts: 7,867

    That Sand sister in Dorne who killed the big black guy is very fit.

    Fittest one in the whole 6 series I say.
  • buckshee said:

    That Sand sister in Dorne who killed the big black guy is very fit.

    Fittest one in the whole 6 series I say.
    Well I liked Melisandre until tonight!!
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,167
    Has there even been a more disappointing character than Areo Hotah? His character descriptor must have been 'be shit and die'.
  • Has there even been a more disappointing character than Areo Hotah? His character descriptor must have been 'be shit and die'.

    Wasn't he a proper tough nut in the books too?
  • mcgrandall
    mcgrandall Posts: 931

    Has there even been a more disappointing character than Areo Hotah? His character descriptor must have been 'be shit and die'.

    Don't think they have done such a poor translation of a character. He was bad ass. Think the whole Dorne storyline has been poorly handled, it seems like they are just speeding it along.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,241

    Has there even been a more disappointing character than Areo Hotah? His character descriptor must have been 'be shit and die'.

    Don't think they have done such a poor translation of a character. He was bad ass. Think the whole Dorne storyline has been poorly handled, it seems like they are just speeding it along.
    I was hugely gutted they have pretty much scrapped the Dorne stuff. The stories are going to be at a weird pace now

    A good first episode
  • As an aside, who the hell would be next in line now if Tommen died?!
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,454
    A friend of mine has an interesting theory. The mad Targaryen king was married to Ed Stark's sister (against her will, but still legal). There's a war, the king kills the sister, and is in turn killed. Ed returns home after the wall with a child he says is his bastard. Now he was, from what we're told, an incredibly honourable man, but here he is with a bastard, a bastard who we're never told who the mother is.

    So the theory is that Jon Snow is in fact the mad kings heir, and therefore if the red lady does bring him back then it could be argued he is the rightful king of Westeros.

    I've tried to pick holes in the theory, but it hangs together pretty well.
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  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    That theory has been floating around for a solid year or two now
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,241

    As an aside, who the hell would be next in line now if Tommen died?!

    The boy Lancel who has a weird tattoo on his swede who was nailing Cersei
  • Carter said:

    As an aside, who the hell would be next in line now if Tommen died?!

    The boy Lancel who has a weird tattoo on his swede who was nailing Cersei
    Why? The Lannisters haven't got much of a claim.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,241
    Wouldn't the link through the mother (Cersei) being a lannister do it? I've never thought about that before to be honest

    Either that or the bastard boy Gendry
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,454
    Bastards can't be heirs, and the line was through the Baratheons, even though we know Joffrey and Tommen weren't his sons, legally they were his heirs, so after Tommen, with no siblings left and none of the old kings brothers left it would go to some Baratheon cousin I guess.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    edited April 2016

    A friend of mine has an interesting theory. The mad Targaryen king was married to Ed Stark's sister (against her will, but still legal). There's a war, the king kills the sister, and is in turn killed. Ed returns home after the wall with a child he says is his bastard. Now he was, from what we're told, an incredibly honourable man, but here he is with a bastard, a bastard who we're never told who the mother is.

    So the theory is that Jon Snow is in fact the mad kings heir, and therefore if the red lady does bring him back then it could be argued he is the rightful king of Westeros.

    I've tried to pick holes in the theory, but it hangs together pretty well.

    Not the mad King, the mad kings son, rhaegar was infatuated (not married) with lyanna. Lyanna was promised to Robert and rhaegar "kidnapped" lyanna which sparked robert's rebellion. Lyanna has Jon snow (targaryen) and dies after childbirth, but before she does makes ned make her a promise (what promise that is is never said in the book, but she does make him promise her something). Do you really think the honourable ned stark would cheat on his wife? No. Being honourable and taking his secret to the grave fits his character much better. When Jon is about to leave to join the nights watch in the show he asks about his mother, ned says "next time we see each other, I'll tell you" as Jon would've taken the black and relinquished all claims to titles and be untouchable from King Robert who had sworn to kill all targaryens. Benjen stark, when warning Jon about joining the nights watch re titles and claims, Jon said "he doesn't care about any of that" but benjen answers "you would, if you knew what it meant".

    But yes, your theory has been running around as long as the first book has come out. It's repeatedly signposted, both in the book and the show.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    Ohhhhhhh yessssss
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    Hodor
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    edited May 2016
    It made me laugh when Ser Alliser tried to get his men to take on the Wildlings and only one of them gives it a go. It reminded me of our pitch invasion.
  • jams
    jams Posts: 1,219
    Never in doubt