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  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,408
    Delay could be overdubbing questions from the floor. "Katrien, I demand to know why you are doing such a great job"
  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 5,979
    Is the whole friggin video ready yet? I took an afternoon off work and now I'm working my way through a box of wine that was meant for xmas.
  • Tunwellsaddick
    Tunwellsaddick Posts: 2,453
    Arsenetatters said:

    Is the whole friggin video ready yet? I took an afternoon off work and now I'm working my way through a box of wine that was meant for xmas.

    I hope you have a second box.
  • SX_Addick
    SX_Addick Posts: 667
    Good to see the end of the YouTube video where Katrien read out a statement from the owner:

    'I'm sorry I can't be there in person tonight. I realise that we've made a few mistakes over these past two years, but I really want this club to succeed and be a force in the Premiership. With the change to the FInancial Fair Play rules I now realise that my plan to simply tick over, use youth team players and the network to keep costs down to break even and prove Championship clubs can make a profit, does not match the ambition that fans at this proud club demand.

    Reflecting on the past two years, we have not invested in the first team in the way we should have done. And there has not been enough stability in the management of the team. I will continue to invest in the Academy and will now bring in a manager with Championship experience to support Karel so that we can invest in the transfer window. We need to identify transfer targets now, based on knowledge rather than video analysis, so that in January we can get the team up the league as quickly as possible.

    We will take stock in the summer to see what changes are needed for a serious push for promotion. We will not waste money, but it is now clear that we need to invest in quality players if we want to achieve the ambition shown by our supporters.

    This meeting marks a turning point in the history of this great club. We will work with our supporters to build a great future together.'

    Or did I dream that bit?
  • northstandsteve
    northstandsteve Posts: 14,332
    NLA, you sound a right FUCKING twat.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,899
    seth plum said:

    NLA.

    Are you also considering becoming a vegetarian :smiley: ?

    I hear that the club do a cracking cheese and onion pasty Seth, you should try one.
    ;-)
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,333
    They have come to the table, they have agreed to have dialog , we are moving forward. Great start to the campaign with very little effort. Well done all concerned.

    Need to clarify exactly what we want and by when. Something tangible, simple and that can be delivered before Ipswich.

    A meeting with the trust to agree terms of reference for target 20000?
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,023
    Full video up now !!
  • kentred2
    kentred2 Posts: 2,341
    Redrobo said:

    They have come to the table, they have agreed to have dialog , we are moving forward. Great start to the campaign with very little effort. Well done all concerned.

    Need to clarify exactly what we want and by when. Something tangible, simple and that can be delivered before Ipswich.

    A meeting with the trust to agree terms of reference for target 20000?

    Are you for real? They would love nothing more than the Trust etc to roll over for its tummy to be rubbed in exchange for a talking shop over an impossible target.

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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    where can we view it, I tried cafc youtube but nothing there?
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,040
    It's illusory like everything they do.
  • CAFCdamo
    CAFCdamo Posts: 1,692
    Currently watching it. KM getting very snappy at the start, not professional in the slightest.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,953
    Does anyone else's sound cut out at 41 secs?
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    What a great post donvan
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    CAFCdamo said:

    Currently watching it. KM getting very snappy at the start, not professional in the slightest.

    Poor body language as well.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,033
    edited November 2015
    Addickforlife said:

    Why did no one challenge some of that stuff she was saying in the presentation? It's clearly rubbish.

    She even asks for interruptions and questions and only one person asks anything?!

    Christ, I wish I was there. It would have been University Challenge.

    The sofa, the DJ, increase fans to 20K, £9M in transfer fees, but how much in outgoing transfers ?

    God, I'd have been questioning her for about 30 mins !
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    Tbf not one person on here would be any different in her postition last night,

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  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,006
    Sorry, I cannot sit and watch 2 hours of this, all I want to know is what questions were asked and what was the answers? I do not expect others to do what I will not do myself, but if anyone is keen enough to watch it all can they post fans questions and answers for myself and others like me, if you do not mind. If not, I will probably get the gist when people start moaning about the Q&A later. Thank you
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,040
    DONVANVLIET said:

    Yes, I know people have genuine grievances, but there is currently something distinctly unsavoury about this BB and indeed others. Add to that the embarrassment I felt watching and listening to protesters on Saturday. No problems with "Roland Out", "Miere Out", but when it dropped to gutter level with references to where one might stick the sofa I thought "I'm Off". Add to that the overtly racist anti-Belgian chants and I thought this lot are losing the plot. It had hints of a lynch mob. I've been through thick and thin (more thin than thick, I might add) with Charlton, having followed them loyally for 52 years at all three of their home grounds and I have actively fought many just causes on the fans' behalf, but somehow, the behaviour I witnessed on Saturday, and what I am seeing repeated on many BBs, doesn't quite square with reality. Yes, communications have been poor. No, I don't think Katrien is guilty of deliberately lying, just guilty of being the proverbial "meat in the sandwich". I'm sure Roland has undermined her on more than one occasion and will do so again. I don't think it matters one iota whether it's Katrien or a Varney who is the CEO, ultimately the power resides across the water. For her own peace of mind she may well walk, but her successor will be similarly neutered. Ultimately discontent correlates with results on the pitch. Go on a winning run and play excellent football (which for the first time this season we did on Saturday) and discontent simply evaporates. Return to losing ways and the clamour will return and intensify. All well and good, but where is the Plan B for the board's detractors? Who is going to take over and why? It's my understanding that buyers are currently few and far between at the moment (there are several clubs up for sale, many of which are more attractive than Charlton), so it might be a long time before Roland is dislodged. For all of his faults (and there are many) he has at least kept the club afloat and for that alone I'm grateful, having seen us first hand flirt with extinction in the High Court (saved with 30 minutes to go). I'm sure my views will go down like a lead balloon with many of you, but at least I know I'm not alone in thinking this way. Call us the "silent majority".

    If you're in the silent majority you might need to think about your user name.
  • kings hill addick
    kings hill addick Posts: 5,781
    I've just started watching it. Who is the chap that started talking. He talked for about five minutes and then proceeded to ask come questions? Is he the Trust chap or a randomly invited fan?

    Thanks.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,353
    DONVANVLIET said:

    Yes, I know people have genuine grievances, but there is currently something distinctly unsavoury about this BB and indeed others. Add to that the embarrassment I felt watching and listening to protesters on Saturday. No problems with "Roland Out", "Miere Out", but when it dropped to gutter level with references to where one might stick the sofa I thought "I'm Off". Add to that the overtly racist anti-Belgian chants and I thought this lot are losing the plot. It had hints of a lynch mob. I've been through thick and thin (more thin than thick, I might add) with Charlton, having followed them loyally for 52 years at all three of their home grounds and I have actively fought many just causes on the fans' behalf, but somehow, the behaviour I witnessed on Saturday, and what I am seeing repeated on many BBs, doesn't quite square with reality. Yes, communications have been poor. No, I don't think Katrien is guilty of deliberately lying, just guilty of being the proverbial "meat in the sandwich". I'm sure Roland has undermined her on more than one occasion and will do so again. I don't think it matters one iota whether it's Katrien or a Varney who is the CEO, ultimately the power resides across the water. For her own peace of mind she may well walk, but her successor will be similarly neutered. Ultimately discontent correlates with results on the pitch. Go on a winning run and play excellent football (which for the first time this season we did on Saturday) and discontent simply evaporates. Return to losing ways and the clamour will return and intensify. All well and good, but where is the Plan B for the board's detractors? Who is going to take over and why? It's my understanding that buyers are currently few and far between at the moment (there are several clubs up for sale, many of which are more attractive than Charlton), so it might be a long time before Roland is dislodged. For all of his faults (and there are many) he has at least kept the club afloat and for that alone I'm grateful, having seen us first hand flirt with extinction in the High Court (saved with 30 minutes to go). I'm sure my views will go down like a lead balloon with many of you, but at least I know I'm not alone in thinking this way. Call us the "silent majority".

    If I could like this ten times I would

    Also, zip it iainment, everyone digs the Captain ;)
  • IT_Andy
    IT_Andy Posts: 477
    Got to 45 mins of full video and stopped. KM admits the 5 or 6 SL players didn't prove the right ones. Her words, to the effect of "recognising the specific nature of Charlton" but sadly its taken her and Roland 18 months to realise that.
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,742
    edited November 2015
    MountsfieldPark said:

    PL54 said:

    Interesting to compare the reaction to the tweet about her hatred of older fans versus what was actually said.

    KM: Yes I know the interview was translated twice and badly. I was talking about bringing in different things for the younger fans, like family zone etc. Older fans are upset but I wasn't discriminating against the elderly. It is bad business if you don't value your customers, a [%] of our fans are over 50. 

    Re. the infamous L'Echo article, I can assure you as one of the people that translated from the French to English, I checked my translation over and over, word by word, to make sure I didn't misrepresent it or add anything to make it inflammatory. I actually softened the tone of the comments attributed to her in the Belgian media article, and the raw Google translate reflected the tone quite well, too.

    If there was any misrepresentation, it was in the Belgian article, which she may be saying was a French language translation of an interview or dialogue carried out in English. For example, the article contained nothing about family zone.

    She really is a slippery customer...
    As Mr F commented earlier....

    Blancmange.

  • jamescafc
    jamescafc Posts: 1,832
    Can someone provide the link if possible?
  • Atletico Addick
    Atletico Addick Posts: 5,843
    Is it a policy to deliberately not get English managers? KM laughs - No obviously not.

    Well quite obviously it is. I struggle to put it politely the words I have for her, would love to be 1 on 1 in a room for a proper chat.
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    Nice

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