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Karel Fraeye

ShootersHillGuru
ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
in General Charlton
Seems that the rumours of Paul Hart's departure from his academy role are gaining in both frequency and credence. The rumour mill is also seemingly suggesting that the vacancy left by Paul's departure might well be filled by our present first team coach Jose Riga who it has been suggested was always in line for that role and that it was only the untimely departure of Chris Powell that necessitated Riga filling in until the seasons end. Certainly his almost immediate appearance at the football club would suggest that he was already lined up and available.

Should the above scenario take place as rumoured then the follow up rumour is that Karel Fraeye our current assistant head coach will be elevated to first team coach next season.

Fraeye is 36 years old and until his appointment at The Valley was head coach at Eendracht Zele where he took control in 2011. Zele are described as an amateur team in Belgiums 4th tier of football.

Now I am quite prepared to give Fraeye the benefit of the doubt regarding his abilities but I am I must confess concerned that regardless of which division Charlton find themselves next season then Karel's experience and knowledge of English football might not be enough.

Of course survival is our main focus as a club and fans but I think we need to keep an eye on this possibility. If the rumours are correct then I think we could be in serious trouble.

Never easy being an Addick is it.
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  • buckshee
    buckshee Posts: 7,867
    Would rather Karel Fialka


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQJx9FZsgc4
  • RugbyAddick
    RugbyAddick Posts: 2,079
    But... He's got a girls name...
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    Karel is a girls name.

    Not a manly mans one like Chris.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    Hard to know why such a person would be identified as our future manager. What has he got that makes him worthy of the job?
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    We'll never have a manager again whilst RD is is charge.

    We'll have a coach who is there to train and make the players better - the players that the network dictates our club needs.

    Will it work or not? God knows.

    I expect a DoF next year as well.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    Uboat said:

    Hard to know why such a person would be identified as our future manager. What has he got that makes him worthy of the job?

    Roland's ear.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Karel is a version of Charles where he comes from.
  • OsamaBenHamer
    OsamaBenHamer Posts: 647
    Whilst I'm all for supporting the team and the coaching staff, and making the best of what we've got, I do feel that IF that happens there has to be some sort of protest against the way RD is running the club. It's no use just discussing it on charlton life, something will have to be done. But as I said IF it happens
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Paul Hart and Chris Powell were the only two brilliant decisions made by the previous regime. Shame they've been moved on within 6 months of being taken over.
  • ValleyTalkBlog
    ValleyTalkBlog Posts: 200
    edited April 2014
    IF Paul Hart is moved on, after everything he has achieved, then serious questions must be asked.

    Removing a manager from a struggling team is one thing, removing the director of a booming academy would be outrageous.

    EDIT: If Hart left of his own accord, then obviously disregard the above!

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  • _nam11
    _nam11 Posts: 1,231
    Hart received an offer from Man City he couldn't refuse. Can't blame him from moving onto a project of that size.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Hart was made an offer he couldn't refuse. We were bottom of the table when Powell was sacked.
    Hardly RD's fault on either front
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    edited April 2014
    Would we be happy if we appointed a manager from the conference or League Two who hasn't achieved anything? No. Then we should not accept Karel.
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    Nothing in the street looks any different to me.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    Give him time, if good players move in with him this summer I won't be complaining.

    Every manager has to start somewhere.
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    Paul Hart, according to my source, was given two contract offers by Charlton. He turned them down, hardly RDs fault. If Steve Avory is still at the Club then I would be happy. It is amazing that Hart gets all the praise and Avory, who is more involved with the day to day coaching, gets very little. If you asked ordinary Charlton fans who Avory is a lot of them wouldn't know, which is sad.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    SELR_addicks said:

    Give him time, if good players move in with him this summer I won't be complaining.

    Every manager has to start somewhere.

    He can start somewhere else then. Not here.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    One begs to ask the question... then why wasnt Fraeye appointed coach when Powell was given the shove ??
  • Beckboy
    Beckboy Posts: 1,682
    Ffs lets see what happens
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    I have heard that Riga will be the director of Football and Karel will be the first team coach.
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  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Fraeye mentioned in this....http://www.eendrachtzele.be/
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,228
    The Red Robin said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    Give him time, if good players move in with him this summer I won't be complaining.

    Every manager has to start somewhere.

    He can start somewhere else then. Not here.
    Lennie Lawrence started here.

    Alan Curbishley started here.

    Chris Powell started here.

    Didn't do too bad did they?
  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,856
    edited April 2014
    I'm worried that Riga will be in charge of the academy, promoting his mumbo-jumbo, cogitraining, (non)senseball pseudo-science. Likeable man or not, some of the claims he makes for his methods on his website are ridiculous and I'm surprised more hasn't been made of that thus far.
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    The_President said:

    One begs to ask the question... then why wasnt Fraeye appointed coach when Powell was given the shove ??

    Because if we had gone down with him another change would've been demanded.

    Doing it this way get the two stooges into the club regardless of the level we're at.

    It's either "this was always the plan" or "we needed to freshen up after relegation".

  • 000__Jaaaaay__000
    000__Jaaaaay__000 Posts: 2,342
    As long as this fraeye bloke has realised how awful simon church is an is ready to ship him out then he has my full backing
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,563
    edited April 2014
    Arsenal Fan">Would we be happy if we appointed a manager from the Japanese League who hasn't achieved anything? No. Then we should not accept Karel Arsene.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    The entire set up of the RD 'regime' so far reinforces my original gut feeling .. CAFC is mooted by RD to be a nursery/feeder club for his continental interests, primarily Standard Liege.
  • LeaburnForEngland
    LeaburnForEngland Posts: 2,291
    Kap10 said:

    Arsenal Fan">Would we be happy if we appointed a manager from the Japanese League who hasn't achieved anything? No. Then we should not accept Karel Arsene.


    Er, Monaco... semi-finals of the Champions League? Not quite the same as Karel's pedigree...
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    edited April 2014
    Kap10 said:

    Arsenal Fan">Would we be happy if we appointed a manager from the Japanese League who hasn't achieved anything? No. Then we should not accept Karel Arsene.


    Wenger had already achieved a lot in European football (league titles in France, Champions League Semis, etc) before going to Japan.

    Edit Leaburn for England beat me to it.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    Kap10 said:

    Arsenal Fan">Would we be happy if we appointed a manager from the Japanese League who hasn't achieved anything? No. Then we should not accept Karel Arsene.

    You seem to be equating the J League with Belgian Div4.

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