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2014-15 Season Ticket Prices

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  • Yann897
    Yann897 Posts: 1,530
    Charlton fans ain't happy unless they're moaning are they !
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,147
    I'm getting a Crossbars season Ticket....Blocks G-N all to myself
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,420
    AFKABartram said:

    Is there a reason why none of this seems to be on the OS ???

    Double checking with their bosses that it's not a misprint
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,897
    I think that this has no doubt been done with the best of intentions.

    I like the fact that I can pretty much be in complete dire straits when it comes to finances, I will still be able to afford to go to Charlton, just not necessarily in my favourite seat.

    I think its a fantastic idea in principle I really do, and I applaud Roland for it, I just think the issue will be the dishonesty of us, and that it will be difficult to stop that.

    I have been to quite a few away games and I always think that the view is so poor (generally in the equivalent of lower/upper north) I find myself not really knowing who is on the ball and not being able to give a decent evaluation of the game in comparison to my seat in E block in the East (might explain some of the idiotic opinions on here depending on where you sit!!!!)

    Great idea, impossible to implement.
  • Atletico Addick
    Atletico Addick Posts: 5,843
    Valley McMoist said:

    I'm getting a Crossbars season Ticket....Blocks G-N all to myself

    And about 200 pre poured pints all to yourself to consume in 15mins, for free, enjoy the second half!!

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,479
    kings hill addick said:

    Henry Irving said:

    kings hill addick said:



    However I think it is a very, very clever way of boosting sales.

    The aim shouldn't be boosting sales but boosting income. Does this do that?


    Also it means that I will only have to pay £200 to sit behind you next season!

    SmileyFace!
    I thought I'd finally got rid of you : - )
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,150
    Huskaris said:


    I think its a fantastic idea in principle I really do, and I applaud Roland for it,

    Not a criticism, but I strongly suspect he has absolutely zero knowledge of it

  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,190
    edited March 2014
    crazy that someone arms length away from you is paying £100 more/less a season for his seat than you are.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,792
    edited March 2014
    kings hill addick said:

    Henry Irving said:

    kings hill addick said:



    However I think it is a very, very clever way of boosting sales.

    The aim shouldn't be boosting sales but boosting income. Does this do that?

    I'm not convinced it doesn't. It enables the club to charge a lot for the best view seats and, ignoring those that will cheat the system and pay £150 to sit somewhere else, it also enables those that wouldn't have bought a £300 seat to get one for £150 which might increase the income?

    If we assume that most of that block will be sold they won't have to much of a problem with match day prices and, frankly, it doesn't matter how many games those fans go to if the £150 is pretty much what they would have paid going a handful of times a season.

    It does seem too cheap to me, but I appreciate that there are those that don't have the money and a family of four (2 adults and 2 children) can now secure entrance to The Valley for an average price of £17.40. At those prices I can see a number of children being brought along. If it's Dad (or Mum) and two children that price drops to £10.87 - Wow!

    Also it means that I will only have to pay £200 to sit behind you next season!

    SmileyFace!
    The average price will fall quite significantly, I should think, given very few seats are dearer than last year, many are cheaper and there is a massive incentive to move out of the dearer ones. I agree it will attract some people who are very price sensitive, but you still need to have something on the pitch because the commitment isn't just financial.

    There are some good ideas in this, but it's way over-complicated.
  • Ilovelondontown
    Ilovelondontown Posts: 297
    is it now time for singers to all move back down to the proper coveredend and make some noise

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  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,234
    PL54 said:

    LargeAddick said:

    kings hill addick said:

    So at the risk of being too controversial a £150 seat in block A and an U11 seat in Block E and you have a reserved seat that should cost £450 for £200!

    Even with a full house you have your U11 seat waiting for you.

    seems ridiculous doesn't it. However, can you buy an U11 seat without purchasing an Adult seat too?

    Is there a rule or law that a 10 year old can't attend a game on their own ?
    No, it'd be fine - the club will be carrying out criminal record checks on everybody as part of the red card application process.
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,897
    AFKABartram said:

    Huskaris said:


    I think its a fantastic idea in principle I really do, and I applaud Roland for it,

    Not a criticism, but I strongly suspect he has absolutely zero knowledge of it

    Ah ok, cheers for that :) in that case, congrats to AB's replacement? ;)
    Wondered why he was being so critical today, although often very clearly pushing an agenda he often gives great insight, when someone at the club does something right, that's less often the case.
  • stonewallpenalty
    stonewallpenalty Posts: 3,842
    edited March 2014
    I can finally afford to give away fans wanker signs they can actually see. Thank you Roland.
  • falconwood_1
    falconwood_1 Posts: 7,369
    paulbaconsarnie said:

    We will end up segregating our own fans.

    I'll have a block to myself!

    GET IN!

  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,833
    edited March 2014
    So if I was so inclined to sit in East Stand Block A, I could theoretically watch every Charlton league home match next season for basically £6.50 a match?

    I'm not imagining that right?
  • kings hill addick
    kings hill addick Posts: 5,781
    FishCostaFortune said:

    So if I was so inclined to sit in East Stand Block A, I could theoretically watch every Charlton league home match next season for basically £6.50 a match?

    I'm not imagining that right?

    Sadly you were. It's £6.52, and a fraction of a penny per match!

    Rip off!

    ;-)
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,147
    I all seriousness, I don't have a problem with what they're proposing. As much as I moan about the way we play, I will be getting a season ticket and my price range is £150-£350 so I'm going to choose somewhere that's in a Green, Yellow, Red or Blue Zone. I've been going for too long to jack it in now or get upset just because BK wants to sweat his assets. Can't blame Charlton for wanting to maximise income...it's business
  • Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch
    Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch Posts: 1,891
    If the £150 and £250 sections were priced at £300, would anyone be moaning? Are we sure the £150 isn't a typo?

    Good price ranges, even if the layout is not conventional.

    Surprising that the North Lower - which always looks desperately empty and could do with filling - isn't given cheap-seat status.
  • Brunello
    Brunello Posts: 1,950
    I think the ideas are good and have tried to cater for a good cross section of supporters whilst maximising income from premium views. I am sure most of this has been suggested in the past but deemed unworkable which I think it still is. 9/10 for effort but will have to look at the enforceability and success later as I have my doubts.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,479
    FishCostaFortune said:

    So if I was so inclined to sit in East Stand Block A, I could theoretically watch every Charlton league home match next season for basically £6.50 a match?

    I'm not imagining that right?


    So how much will a single ticket cost?

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  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,792
    Huskaris said:

    AFKABartram said:

    Huskaris said:


    I think its a fantastic idea in principle I really do, and I applaud Roland for it,

    Not a criticism, but I strongly suspect he has absolutely zero knowledge of it

    Ah ok, cheers for that :) in that case, congrats to AB's replacement? ;)
    Wondered why he was being so critical today, although often very clearly pushing an agenda he often gives great insight, when someone at the club does something right, that's less often the case.
    You think the Crossbars thing is sensible or will work?

    I think you can increase season ticket sales by volume using these seat prices, so to that extent I think they are good and they will appeal to individuals paying less. The question for the club however is whether they will increase revenue. I think that's doubtful when you will have people moving from paying £400-plus to £150 and £250, without increasing the top price significantly.

    People will always cheer price reductions; the club has to consider their impact overall.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,988
    Henry Irving said:

    FishCostaFortune said:

    So if I was so inclined to sit in East Stand Block A, I could theoretically watch every Charlton league home match next season for basically £6.50 a match?

    I'm not imagining that right?


    So how much will a single ticket cost?
    £10 ?


    Personally I think overall season tickets are still fairly priced. My stepdad pays more to watch Luton, than most of us have to pay to go to The Valley.
  • micks1950
    micks1950 Posts: 943
    Addickforlife said:

    So confused with the Crossbars bit?

    Can you physically not buy a season ticket in that light blue section unless you want Crossbars membership, or does that just mean that to be a member of crossbars you have to buy a seat in that bit?

    I think it must mean the latter - that to be a member of crossbars you have to buy a seat in the light blue section.

    Unless I'm misreading it - I'm in J Block NU which 'seems' to be in the light blue area? - but I've just logged in with my CON number to see what my renewal price would be, and it's 'yellow' Zone 4 price not light blue crossbars....

  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,897
    Airman Brown said:

    Huskaris said:

    AFKABartram said:

    Huskaris said:


    I think its a fantastic idea in principle I really do, and I applaud Roland for it,

    Not a criticism, but I strongly suspect he has absolutely zero knowledge of it

    Ah ok, cheers for that :) in that case, congrats to AB's replacement? ;)
    Wondered why he was being so critical today, although often very clearly pushing an agenda he often gives great insight, when someone at the club does something right, that's less often the case.
    You think the Crossbars thing is sensible or will work?

    I think you can increase season ticket sales by volume using these seat prices, so to that extent I think they are good and they will appeal to individuals paying less. The question for the club however is whether they will increase revenue. I think that's doubtful when you will have people moving from paying £400-plus to £150 and £250, without increasing the top price significantly.

    People will always cheer price reductions; the club has to consider their impact overall.
    I guess we will see but I don't think that will happen.

    I am 23, and in a relatively low paying job, I currently sit in E block which is £450, and I don't think I will move to A Block even though it makes financial sense because

    a) I like the current seat I sit in as far as the views go

    b) I like the people that I currently sit directly next to, and I don't think they will be moving.

    I think its important to realise that a lot of people have a real sentimental value to their seats and will have sat next to the same people for many years, and won't want to move.

    I think the main people that will be attracted to the newly tiered pricing system, will be people that don't currently come to the Valley or have left because of financial issues, and they will be in the cheaper seats.

    Again, we are yet to see the outcome of this and I am sure that you know more than me when it comes to stuff like this, but even though I would save £300, I just think that I would rather keep my current seat than sacrifice the view and the people where I am....
  • newyorkaddick
    newyorkaddick Posts: 3,057
    There seems to be an implicit assumption on here that if there are say 500 seats in East Block A that there are thus 500 season tickets for sale in Block A. However they may have agreed internally that they will sell no more than say 200 at that price point and then declare them sold out. This is effectively the way airlines sell seats at multiple price points.

    In other words the scope to game the system by buying a cheap seat and sitting in an expensive one is probably very limited.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,833
    Henry Irving said:

    FishCostaFortune said:

    So if I was so inclined to sit in East Stand Block A, I could theoretically watch every Charlton league home match next season for basically £6.50 a match?

    I'm not imagining that right?


    So how much will a single ticket cost?
    10 Francs?

    I have no idea, I assume they will use a similar price structure for single tickets as well.
  • kings hill addick
    kings hill addick Posts: 5,781
    I agree that it is a little complicated, but to be fair we only buy a season ticket once a year.

    They could have a much more level ticket price which would ensure that those with a cheaper season ticket get a better discount, but in all honesty I don't care if someone sitting elsewhere get's a digger discount than me as I could move if I wanted to. As long as no one sits in my block and pays less than me by paying match by match then I'm not too bothered.

    I agree with those that say that seats separated by a walkway for £100 seems silly, but that is down to luck and/or randomness. You could easily compare a seat at the other ends of both blocks which makes the difference, virtually, two widths of a block. There has to be a line somewhere or everyone pays the same price or every seat is differentiated and there could be over two hundred prices for each stand.

    Clearly I would like to pay less, but overall I think the new prices have a lot of merit and I'm reluctant to criticise the club for them.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,150
    newyorkaddick said:

    There seems to be an implicit assumption on here that if there are say 500 seats in East Block A that there are thus 500 season tickets for sale in Block A. However they may have agreed internally that they will sell no more than say 200 at that price point and then declare them sold out. This is effectively the way airlines sell seats at multiple price points.

    In other words the scope to game the system by buying a cheap seat and sitting in an expensive one is probably very limited.

    I suspect you have just given them that idea...

  • Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch
    Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch Posts: 1,891
    As faI'm in the take-it-or-leave-it camp.
    newyorkaddick said:

    There seems to be an implicit assumption on here that if there are say 500 seats in East Block A that there are thus 500 season tickets for sale in Block A. However they may have agreed internally that they will sell no more than say 200 at that price point and then declare them sold out. This is effectively the way airlines sell seats at multiple price points.

    In other words the scope to game the system by buying a cheap seat and sitting in an expensive one is probably very limited.

    Possible. It's certainly a good headline - "season tickets priced from £150".
  • Yann897
    Yann897 Posts: 1,530
    Looks like block a east stand will be a new singing area , which is a good thing , anything to improve the atmosphere , not that I'll be moving from north upper but I'm sure a lot of the youngsters will.

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