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Sone Aluko

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  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,681
    edited June 2012
    Well his sister played for our womens side a few years back and she wasn't bad (in a footballing sense!). I know nothing about him.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,375
    As important as Jackson has been for us, I would be surprised if he were to keep a player like Aluko out of the team. I don't think he would come to Charlton to be a substitute either.
    Have a look at the win percentage when Jackson is in the team against when he isn't. Not only that- he is the club captain. Saying that he is a vital player for us in a huge understatement.
    Not doubting JJ's influence one bit, and I am a huge fan of his. I'm just stating that a player like Aluko is from the drawer above what we have at the moment. And that's most definitely not a knock or criticism of our current bunch.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,161
    I think Aluko could play up front
  • Cafctekkers
    Cafctekkers Posts: 1,256
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbvRgJyW__k

    would be a QUALITY signing!
  • Brighton Addick
    Brighton Addick Posts: 207
    I'm not sure what all this excitement about Aluko is all about - he's been playing in a league which is the equivalent standard to League One. I bet there are plenty of players from league One, including 3 or 4 from us, who could put together an impressive you tube video from last season. Would be a massive gamble IMO.
  • Paddy7
    Paddy7 Posts: 1,663
    If we're looking at all I'm sure CP & PC will know a lot more about him than can be revealed on a video like that. Yes, he looks exciting but have we learned nothing from some of those "YouTube" signings in the past?
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,375
    If we're looking at all I'm sure CP & PC will know a lot more about him than can be revealed on a video like that. Yes, he looks exciting but have we learned nothing from some of those "YouTube" signings in the past?
    "YouTube" signings generally happen with players from leagues or countries that we aren't too familiar with.

    Aluko's reputation with Rangers is relatively well known for those who watch Rangers or even just those who have seen the Old Firm games.
    I'm not sure what all this excitement about Aluko is all about - he's been playing in a league which is the equivalent standard to League One. I bet there are plenty of players from league One, including 3 or 4 from us, who could put together an impressive you tube video from last season. Would be a massive gamble IMO.
    Pretty much every single player in our current team would have been considered League One/League Two standard when we signed them, but I wouldn't doubt them in the Championship at all.

    The SPL may be a 'League One standard' league but Rangers' first team is much, much higher than that. Probably upper Championship/lower Premiership. Look at players they've had recently like Jelavic.
  • Addickted4life
    Addickted4life Posts: 7,467
    Sign him up. He looks quality and would be a great signing.
  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 1,986
    edited June 2012
    Looks good.
  • SE10
    SE10 Posts: 2,169
    Seen him a few times, great little player. Can be selfish though at times.

    He loves it at Rangers though.

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  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,115
    edited June 2012
    Well his sister played for our womens side a few years back and she wasn't bad (in a footballing sense!)....
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  • liam_conaghan
    liam_conaghan Posts: 3
    Aluko is a cracking player, he took the SPL by storm for Rangers, also had a previous spell with Aberdeen, he was one of the best players in the SPL last year. superb signing for us if true
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,083
    #cafc want Aluko but it was described to me as "a legal minefield" to get a deal done at the moment.
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,066
    Not sure how it would be a legal minefield...it has been reposrted that his contract was only to the end of the season, so he should be a free agent.

    Even if that wasn't reported correctly, as soon as the new owners up there officially move their "assets" into newco, then players can walk away if they want. Green has been spouting that the players MUST move across and quoting TUPE, but Employment Law is not on his side in that.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Anything involving Rangers at the moment is a grey area.

    It's an absolute shambles at the moment but I think it only fair that they should be forced to start from the bottom - though admittedly I don't know the full circumstances on their problem
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,301
    Not sure how it would be a legal minefield...it has been reposrted that his contract was only to the end of the season, so he should be a free agent.

    Even if that wasn't reported correctly, as soon as the new owners up there officially move their "assets" into newco, then players can walk away if they want. Green has been spouting that the players MUST move across and quoting TUPE, but Employment Law is not on his side in that.
    Isn't that just why it could be a legal minefield ie the TUPE/NEWCo stuff.

    Plus it's an international transfer : - )

  • cafc_joe
    cafc_joe Posts: 214
    TUPE is in place to protect the employee, not the employer.
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    isn't tupe primarily concerned with a situation when a service contract is changed or outsourced, and the employees are entitiled to be offered equal contracts with the new vendor, to avoid a backhanded way of sacking people
  • Dippenhall
    Dippenhall Posts: 3,923
    If a company is sold your contract with the company is unaffected. If the company assets are sold and you transfer to a new employer with the assets, TUPE says you are treated as if it was a company sale and your contractual terms don't change.
  • Mortimerician
    Mortimerician Posts: 5,222
    TUPE is 100% at the employee's discretion. You can't force TUPE transfer someone. They always have the option to stay with their current company (if it exists) or to leave.

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  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,066
    Exactly guys...TUPE means that the employee should not be disadvantaged by any move, but the important part is that it is entirely their decision to then accept the terms, whether they are the same or improved. Newco have no ability to enforce the switch.

    If anything, I can only see that this would make any transfer easier. And that's without the original thought that he is actually out of contract anyway.

    :-)
  • alangee
    alangee Posts: 398
    edited June 2012
    I thought Aluko was on a short term contract that ends, presumably at the end of June.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Maybe a development fee is involved - or not if it's to Newco
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,034
    Maybe a development fee is involved - or not if it's to Newco
    I'm not sure that it is ,didn't Motherwell stich us up over Randolph and not pay a fee for him because it was a cross border transfer.

  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,066
    There wouldn't be a development fee...he's only been there 6 months, so not a player they have developed. As Richard mentions, it also doesn't apply cross-border anyway.
  • Norfolk_Addick
    Norfolk_Addick Posts: 2,289
    Time to pray for travelling mercies! Why didn't I drive damn it....Birmingham bound :) (I know I've neglected twitter recently-phone issues) -- Sone Aluko (@sonealuko) 3h
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,301
    He grew up in Birmingham
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,509
    He grew up in Birmingham
    Poor sod!
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,914
    or he's on his way to our first game early.
  • southamptonaddick
    southamptonaddick Posts: 4,063
    Time to pray for travelling mercies! Why didn't I drive damn it....Birmingham bound :) (I know I've neglected twitter recently-phone issues) -- Sone Aluko (@sonealuko) 3h
    Can someone please translate that into English.

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