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Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours

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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    TeeC said:
    Can’t help thinking all of the concerns around Kelman apply more to some of the players we’ve already bought - Apter, Olaofe, Carey who are all unproven at Championship level. 

    Everything is a punt but Kelman, at the age of 23, is probably a measured one in my view. And if Jones and Chapple think so then that would give me even more confidence. 
    One question about Kelman if you could answer please, if he is that good why aren't QPR a championship club who finished just 7 points off relegation last year and only scored 53 goals in 46 games keeping him and playing him this season ???   

    Great question and only QPR have the answer to that.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    TeeC said:
    Can’t help thinking all of the concerns around Kelman apply more to some of the players we’ve already bought - Apter, Olaofe, Carey who are all unproven at Championship level. 

    Everything is a punt but Kelman, at the age of 23, is probably a measured one in my view. And if Jones and Chapple think so then that would give me even more confidence. 
    If we hadn’t signed Olaofe then I’d be fine with us signing Kelman. But we already have TC and Olaofe for the running the channels and in behind striker role, so if we are spending £2m+ on a player I’d much rather it be something we are still lacking, which for me is a player for the Godden/Leaburn role who is capable of winning duels as well as scoring goals, Kelman isn’t that type of player 
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,958
    Watching the Chuks goal contribution on YouTube, I hadn't appreciated that Kelman scored both Wigan goals at the Valley,a couple of seasons ago.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    Oggy Red said:
    Swisdom said:
    Just because of his size it doesn’t make Leaburn a target man. He’s a much better footballer than just a head on a stick.  
    he’s not to be confused with his father 
    Yeah, but his dad Carl wasn't a 'head on a stick' either.

    You couldn't lump the ball high in the sky for Carl, he needed the ball no more than chest high or on the floor. 

    You'll remember that Leaburn senior wasn't exactly a prolific scorer - but so much came through him, the perfect foil for a nippy poacher beside him.

    Super Clive Mendonca once said that Carl Leaburn in that role was the best he had been paired with. Or something like that.

    One difference between Miles and his Dad, Miles is more mobile, can get around the pitch, and able to run with the ball. 

    As you suggest, we should be playing to his strengths, rather than lumping the ball vaguely towards his head, just because he's a tall lad. 
    True but in fairness Miles is a lot younger.
    Haha... Carl was 17 when he made his debut, in the old First Division, top tier. 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    jose said:
    In the early days of our return to the Valley around October 1995 I believe we had a 1-0 defeat to Grimsby Town. They had a player whose name you would see as a regular goalscorer playing. Clive Mendonca. He wasn’t eye catching in a speedy, or tricksy, or powerful way, but he lurked around and plugged away and scored that goal to secure the three points for Grimsby that day.
    It is that memory Kelman reminds me of.
    True.... and like Kelman, Mendonca wasn't good in the air either.

    But Mendonca's 100% concentration, his reading of the game, anticipation and movement - and vitally, composure in front of goal, made him the great poacher he was.

    Is that also what Kelman offers? 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    TeeC said:
    Can’t help thinking all of the concerns around Kelman apply more to some of the players we’ve already bought - Apter, Olaofe, Carey who are all unproven at Championship level. 

    Everything is a punt but Kelman, at the age of 23, is probably a measured one in my view. And if Jones and Chapple think so then that would give me even more confidence. 
    One question about Kelman if you could answer please, if he is that good why aren't QPR a championship club who finished just 7 points off relegation last year and only scored 53 goals in 46 games keeping him and playing him this season ???   
    In fairness sometimes players are just not right for the club saw it with Dobson at Sunderland etc. Although I’m also not sure on Kelman i know Apter, Oloafe are big risks but I can distinctively remember them giving Ramsay and Small really hard games to play against. Kelman played us 3 times last season I couldn’t tell u one time he did something well on the pitch. 
    He scored 2 against Stockport in the play offs, 1 a mile offside and the other a penalty, outside of that he only scored 1 goal against a top 6 side all season.

    Also has to be considered that we play a completely different style to Orient. He could lead the line for Orient in league 1 because of the way they play, he could not lead the line for us and the way we play. He is not Godden. 
    If we signed him he’d fit the TC and Olaofe role, run into the channels and in behind, and score goals. He’d probably be an upgrade there, but if we’re spending £2m+ on a player I’d rather they filled a gap or upgraded an area we are weak in, rather than adding a 3rd player to a role we already have 2 good players in 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,618
    Don’t think we were really ever in for Kelman.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Don’t think we were really ever in for Kelman.
    Neither do I 👍🏻
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,483
    Has Kelman actually signed for someone else, I know Luton and some mob in the USA were interested, but why not us?
    I know @ForeverAddickted was keen if I remember correctly...🙄
  • jose
    jose Posts: 618
    Oggy Red said:
    jose said:
    In the early days of our return to the Valley around October 1995 I believe we had a 1-0 defeat to Grimsby Town. They had a player whose name you would see as a regular goalscorer playing. Clive Mendonca. He wasn’t eye catching in a speedy, or tricksy, or powerful way, but he lurked around and plugged away and scored that goal to secure the three points for Grimsby that day.
    It is that memory Kelman reminds me of.
    True.... and like Kelman, Mendonca wasn't good in the air either.

    But Mendonca's 100% concentration, his reading of the game, anticipation and movement - and vitally, composure in front of goal, made him the great poacher he was.

    Is that also what Kelman offers? 
    I wouldn’t like to say. Certainly in recent times he has been a rather prolific scorer, so I don’t think composure is a problem. He seems to be a player that can finish the work of others.
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  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,593
    Don’t think we were really ever in for Kelman.
    Neither do I 👍🏻
    Well, my WhatsApp group tells me, we’ve put a bid in for him. 🤷🏻‍♂️
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,157
    PWR

    So, another 300 or so posts, anything for me to get excited about or just the usual bollox?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Don’t think we were really ever in for Kelman.
    Looks like we’re in the same WhatsApp group.
  • _uptheaddicks
    _uptheaddicks Posts: 149
    Don’t think we were really ever in for Kelman.
    Neither do I 👍🏻
    Well, my WhatsApp group tells me, we’ve put a bid in for him. 🤷🏻‍♂️
    I think us having put a bid (which was rejected) for Kelman was announced on Monday, in a credible tweet 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    jose said:
    Oggy Red said:
    jose said:
    In the early days of our return to the Valley around October 1995 I believe we had a 1-0 defeat to Grimsby Town. They had a player whose name you would see as a regular goalscorer playing. Clive Mendonca. He wasn’t eye catching in a speedy, or tricksy, or powerful way, but he lurked around and plugged away and scored that goal to secure the three points for Grimsby that day.
    It is that memory Kelman reminds me of.
    True.... and like Kelman, Mendonca wasn't good in the air either.

    But Mendonca's 100% concentration, his reading of the game, anticipation and movement - and vitally, composure in front of goal, made him the great poacher he was.

    Is that also what Kelman offers? 
    I wouldn’t like to say. Certainly in recent times he has been a rather prolific scorer, so I don’t think composure is a problem. He seems to be a player that can finish the work of others.
    Which is what poachers do, of course. 

    One thing I forgot to mention with Mendonca, was his superb 1st touch and mastery of the ball in tight situations in the box. 

    He could also drop a shoulder, swivel twist and turn.

    Does Kelman offer that also, or am I expecting too much from a young player compared to a mature experienced Mendonca in his prime?

    But the big question, as suggested by others, does Kelman fit NJ's gameplay and style of play? 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    PWR

    So, another 300 or so posts, anything for me to get excited about or just the usual bollox?
    No, nuffink. You can go back to sleep, Martin 🙂
  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,525
    edited July 23
    Ben18 said:

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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited July 23
    Don’t think we were really ever in for Kelman.

    You may well be correct and since you started this thread on April 9th we have reached page 423 which isn't too shabby and compared to other years its been more enjoyable even if there's always has to be some padding out and tangential movement.

    Maybe time for a new transfer rumour whether tenuous or substantial as Charlie Kelman and his Knibbs have had a good run.
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,357
    Latest Rumour striker Callum Robinson from Cardiff - can't see it myself age 30 only 5ft 10' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callum_Robinson
    Think u need to read it again, it's clickbait headline said Charlton should consider signing... 
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  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    PWR

    So, another 300 or so posts, anything for me to get excited about or just the usual bollox?
    Usual bollocks and no signings 
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,255
    LTKapal said:
    Got a friend flying back from Kyoto airport this morning, told them to let me know if they see anybody who looks like Fukuda, to quote " I'm not being racist but I've seen about 30 people that look like him, What do you expect me to do, check passports or just be on lookout for someone dribbling through passport control? 
    Taxi driver holding up a sign with his name on would be priceless. Charlton badge on the sign presumably.
  • YannTheMann
    YannTheMann Posts: 1,032
    Just had a message in my WhatsApp group that were signing David Mooney on loan from Reading!!! Mine might be out of date 
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,042
    Don’t think we were really ever in for Kelman.
    Neither do I 👍🏻
    Well, my WhatsApp group tells me, we’ve put a bid in for him. 🤷🏻‍♂️
    I think us having put a bid (which was rejected) for Kelman was announced on Monday, in a credible tweet 
    The rejected bid that was reported this week was for the Japanese player.  I don’t think it has been reported anywhere that we have bid for Kelman.  Except…😉
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Let’s stop the comparisons of any forward here to Mendonca. They’re not in the same league as Super Clive. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Just had a message in my WhatsApp group that were signing David Mooney on loan from Reading!!! Mine might be out of date 

    Don't get WhatsApp and club call mixed up !
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,413
    Just had a message in my WhatsApp group that were signing David Mooney on loan from Reading!!! Mine might be out of date 
    "Who needs Wayne Rooney, we've got Dave Rooney" ringing around the Valley concourse May 2010
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,671
    Just had a message in my WhatsApp group that were signing David Mooney on loan from Reading!!! Mine might be out of date 
    Always thought David Mooney was the spitting image of a pigeon 
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,157
    Oggy Red said:
    PWR

    So, another 300 or so posts, anything for me to get excited about or just the usual bollox?
    No, nuffink. You can go back to sleep, Martin 🙂
    PWR

    So, another 300 or so posts, anything for me to get excited about or just the usual bollox?
    Usual bollocks and no signings 
    Thought so, thanks men.
  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 985
    edited July 23
    Let’s stop the comparisons of any forward here to Mendonca. They’re not in the same league as Super Clive. 
    Clive played in a 4-4-2 as did most sides and had the likes of Bright, Hunt and Bartlett setting up chances.

    Kelman wouldn't gel in our current side, he might have in Curb's.