I'm more than happy to stick to my 10 games (plus 5 for the boy) 6 shirts between us, other tat and VG, just pointing out that the incentive for people to commit to more is decreasing.
It's great that some fans just spend the cash no matter what, but there's a big % where that extra £90 tips the budget over the scales... take the piss out of that all you like.
So you're far better off saving on the shirts and VG (ST will get you better priority anyway) and spending on a ST even if you don't get to enough games. You'd have enough left for a shirt each as well tbf.
Not saying I agree with the price increase though and not only because this is gonna be the phase 1 price next year
I was thinking the same and I fully appreciate we all have different finances, circumstances and priorities.
But if I was concerned about affordability of my team's matches, I would choose to go to £300 worth of games rather than buy £300 worth of shirts.
I'm not criticising nor suggesting what you or anyone should do. I'm just saying I would choose going to games rather than buying shirts.
The ticket revenue is worth far more to the club. £630 in ticket revenue is £525 net income. I don’t know what the profit is on shirts but let’s say it’s £10. I think the club gets half the revenue on VG, less costs. Let’s say that’s worth £50. So in the matchday example it’s £250 + £60 + £50 = £360 for the club.
Box it up how you like but the club will always benefit from selling more STs, as long as it has thousands of empty seats. You will never replace that revenue with ancillary spend, even if casual fans spend more per game on merchandise than ST holders.
Therefore tripping people out of buying STs is bad for Charlton. Of course the sweet spot at which that doesn’t quite happen is up for debate.
BTW I think the £375 price is a bit of a red herring because many people would not consider sitting in the lower Covered End.
‘Lower Covered End’ ??????
it’s the CoveredEnd.
the bit above it isn’t the Covered End, it’s the Upper North.
The price structure is wrong. The range is too wide. This isn’t the fault of the current ownership, Sandgaard or Southall. It goes back to 2014. Yet it has become sacrosanct. At some point someone will have to deal with it.
As it stands, Charlton’s top adult price is now higher than every Championship club in 24/25 except Bristol City (£5 dearer) and Norwich (a proper outlier at £914). It exceeds 18 Championship top prices by more than £100.
The lowest price is higher than at eight Championship clubs and £100 cheaper than three.
I'm more than happy to stick to my 10 games (plus 5 for the boy) 6 shirts between us, other tat and VG, just pointing out that the incentive for people to commit to more is decreasing.
It's great that some fans just spend the cash no matter what, but there's a big % where that extra £90 tips the budget over the scales... take the piss out of that all you like.
So you're far better off saving on the shirts and VG (ST will get you better priority anyway) and spending on a ST even if you don't get to enough games. You'd have enough left for a shirt each as well tbf.
Not saying I agree with the price increase though and not only because this is gonna be the phase 1 price next year
I'm fine as I am, my firsts comments are not about what I can or can't afford, it's about the attraction of just buying a ST at all for the average person.
I only mentioned my rough annual attendance etc for the previous season as there seems to be a misunderstanding that you either buy a ST and fully support the club, or you don't and just float around for the big occasions.
Some of the replies in this thread are well disappointing. Almost 'race to the bottom' type mindsets and shows why life is as it is at times.
The club should be challenege on the pricing, as if we are loaded, as implied, the money is far more valuable to an average worker in the UK, to a multi-billion business man. These price increases as I've highlighted will not make or break the season, and I'll be very concerned if season ticket sales are the idea to push a competitive team. That's something you do gradually, not instantly after so many poor seasons.
The aim should always be to get the Valley full within reason, always.
The price structure is awful. A more fair price structure would be something like.
Tier 3: £300 / £13 per game Tier 2: £375 / £16 per game Tier 3: £500 / £21 per game
It's remarkably short sighted to think the clubs advertised prices are fair, as what's been highlighted many times, how rotten the club has been for a number of years, and how many options people have for entertainment now, especially in London.
The club needs a way to build this fan base back up, Wembley was a good preview of what it could be, these prices just take it a step back.
So disappointing as well to read people essentially dig at people's finances and money management. It's a working class sport! People with low incomes should have a more favourable option.
Bromley's full price will be £350. I think you are being unrealistic.
Bromley are taking the mick with those prices as well imo.
End of the day it ain't my money, and it's easier for me to say, but if I owned a football club and was 'f'in loaded' I'd be willing to take the financial hit for at least the season just to fill the place out and keep the momentum going.
Only 10 years ago we had a season ticket in the east stand A block for £150? Seems insane to me our cheapest is now £375 for an adult.
I wonder if the club have considered Klarna as an option or if that's possible.
With the cost of living up, and a lot of ordinary folk struggling, a monthly payment scheme, or quarterly may help the financial bleed a bit better.
We should all be in favour here of the most affordable pricing here and getting the place full to unite the fanbase and create special home atmospheres.
This ivory tower mindset is really not it.
We have had a monthly payment scheme for longer than I can remember.
I didn't know this, I've never seen this. Is this an option that charges interest or just allows you to spread the cost? I feel this should be mentioned more by the club as I dont ever recall seeing a tweet about this or a social media post.
Pay over the year in four or 10 payments using the V12 scheme
I'm more than happy to stick to my 10 games (plus 5 for the boy) 6 shirts between us, other tat and VG, just pointing out that the incentive for people to commit to more is decreasing.
It's great that some fans just spend the cash no matter what, but there's a big % where that extra £90 tips the budget over the scales... take the piss out of that all you like.
So you're far better off saving on the shirts and VG (ST will get you better priority anyway) and spending on a ST even if you don't get to enough games. You'd have enough left for a shirt each as well tbf.
Not saying I agree with the price increase though and not only because this is gonna be the phase 1 price next year
I was thinking the same and I fully appreciate we all have different finances, circumstances and priorities.
But if I was concerned about affordability of my team's matches, I would choose to go to £300 worth of games rather than buy £300 worth of shirts.
I'm not criticising nor suggesting what you or anyone should do. I'm just saying I would choose going to games rather than buying shirts.
I buy me and my son shirts to wear, certainly won't stop doing that just to buy a ST for games I cant attend as that's perceived as being more loyal to the club. Also, me not buying a shirt, doesn't all of a sudden make 8pm kick offs on a Tuesday more viable... I still have work to do and/or away child to collect from school and feed.
The price structure is wrong. The range is too wide. This isn’t the fault of the current ownership, Sandgaard or Southall. It goes back to 2014. Yet it has become sacrosanct. At some point someone will have to deal with it.
As it stands, Charlton’s top adult price is now higher than every Championship club in 24/25 except Bristol City (£5 dearer) and Norwich (a proper outlier at £914). It exceeds 18 Championship top prices by more than £100.
The lowest price is higher than at eight Championship clubs and £100 cheaper than three.
That doesn't matter though, even if you can only attend 7 games a season you're not a true fan unless you've purchased a ST, whatever your circumstances.
The price structure is wrong. The range is too wide. This isn’t the fault of the current ownership, Sandgaard or Southall. It goes back to 2014. Yet it has become sacrosanct. At some point someone will have to deal with it.
As it stands, Charlton’s top adult price is now higher than every Championship club in 24/25 except Bristol City (£5 dearer) and Norwich (a proper outlier at £914). It exceeds 18 Championship top prices by more than £100.
The lowest price is higher than at eight Championship clubs and £100 cheaper than three.
That is crazy pricing!
Get to sit next to Delia though, we just can’t compete with that sort of price thing.
The price structure is wrong. The range is too wide. This isn’t the fault of the current ownership, Sandgaard or Southall. It goes back to 2014. Yet it has become sacrosanct. At some point someone will have to deal with it.
As it stands, Charlton’s top adult price is now higher than every Championship club in 24/25 except Bristol City (£5 dearer) and Norwich (a proper outlier at £914). It exceeds 18 Championship top prices by more than £100.
The lowest price is higher than at eight Championship clubs and £100 cheaper than three.
That doesn't matter though, even if you can only attend 7 games a season you're not a true fan unless you've purchased a ST, whatever your circumstances.
Feel like you’re twisting argument mate. If you’re only intending to go 7 games for whatever reason, then a season ticket clearly isn’t for you.
Football prices these days are an issue across English football, not just us. Premier league match day prices are sky high now.
A lot of PL clubs fans are at war with their clubs as a lot of the big clubs are now limiting season tickets in favour of selling more match day tickets. They don't want the standard fan who has a few pints in the pub and turns up to the stadium 5 minutes before kick off. They want the family of tourists who pay expensive match day prices, then spend an hour in the club shop buying a ton of stuff.
The one thing the PL does do right however is it restricts the price of away tickets to 30 quid. We're going to find on many occasions this season that away tickets will cost 35-40 which is a joke.
Football prices these days are an issue across English football, not just us. Premier league match day prices are sky high now.
A lot of PL clubs fans are at war with their clubs as a lot of the big clubs are now limiting season tickets in favour of selling more match day tickets. They don't want the standard fan who has a few pints in the pub and turns up to the stadium 5 minutes before kick off. They want the family of tourists who pay expensive match day prices, then spend an hour in the club shop buying a ton of stuff.
The one thing the PL does do right however is it restricts the price of away tickets to 30 quid. We're going to find on many occasions this season that away tickets will cost 35-40 which is a joke.
The most expensive adult ticket in the away end at QPR when Oxford visited there last December on a Wednesday night was £38
The price structure is wrong. The range is too wide. This isn’t the fault of the current ownership, Sandgaard or Southall. It goes back to 2014. Yet it has become sacrosanct. At some point someone will have to deal with it.
As it stands, Charlton’s top adult price is now higher than every Championship club in 24/25 except Bristol City (£5 dearer) and Norwich (a proper outlier at £914). It exceeds 18 Championship top prices by more than £100.
The lowest price is higher than at eight Championship clubs and £100 cheaper than three.
That doesn't matter though, even if you can only attend 7 games a season you're not a true fan unless you've purchased a ST, whatever your circumstances.
Feel like you’re twisting argument mate. If you’re only intending to go 7 games for whatever reason, then a season ticket clearly isn’t for you.
I'm not really twisting anything, it was obviously a flippant response taking into consideration the comments from those that think you should just spend the money to prove you're a true fan.
Football prices these days are an issue across English football, not just us. Premier league match day prices are sky high now.
A lot of PL clubs fans are at war with their clubs as a lot of the big clubs are now limiting season tickets in favour of selling more match day tickets. They don't want the standard fan who has a few pints in the pub and turns up to the stadium 5 minutes before kick off. They want the family of tourists who pay expensive match day prices, then spend an hour in the club shop buying a ton of stuff.
The one thing the PL does do right however is it restricts the price of away tickets to 30 quid. We're going to find on many occasions this season that away tickets will cost 35-40 which is a joke.
The most expensive adult ticket in the away end at QPR when Oxford visited there last December on a Wednesday night was £38
Sheffield Wednesday charged Leeds £45 when they went there.
Only 10 years ago we had a season ticket in the east stand A block for £150? Seems insane to me our cheapest is now £375 for an adult.
And people took the piss by buying a season ticket there and sitting in the D and E blocks.
I still remember the conversation I had with two people that decided to take my seat in D block and the one next to it.
Me: Excuse me, you're in my seat.
Guy: ...
Me: Could you move?
Guy: No.
Me: Look, that's my seat. I'm a season ticket holder and I've been sat there for every game since 1995.
Guy: Well, it's not your seat today.
The stewards refused to intervene and I had to relocate.
The only way to properly enforce it would be to make a separate entrance at Lansdowne Mews and separate the A block from the rest of the stand through barriers.
A and B blocks are still cheap £130 season tickets, but you have to be 16-20 to sit there and that restriction alone seems to be enough to limit the number of fans sitting elsewhere.
I'm more than happy to stick to my 10 games (plus 5 for the boy) 6 shirts between us, other tat and VG, just pointing out that the incentive for people to commit to more is decreasing.
It's great that some fans just spend the cash no matter what, but there's a big % where that extra £90 tips the budget over the scales... take the piss out of that all you like.
So you're far better off saving on the shirts and VG (ST will get you better priority anyway) and spending on a ST even if you don't get to enough games. You'd have enough left for a shirt each as well tbf.
Not saying I agree with the price increase though and not only because this is gonna be the phase 1 price next year
I was thinking the same and I fully appreciate we all have different finances, circumstances and priorities.
But if I was concerned about affordability of my team's matches, I would choose to go to £300 worth of games rather than buy £300 worth of shirts.
I'm not criticising nor suggesting what you or anyone should do. I'm just saying I would choose going to games rather than buying shirts.
The ticket revenue is worth far more to the club. £630 in ticket revenue is £525 net income. I don’t know what the profit is on shirts but let’s say it’s £10. I think the club gets half the revenue on VG, less costs. Let’s say that’s worth £50. So in the matchday example it’s £250 + £60 + £50 = £360 for the club.
Box it up how you like but the club will always benefit from selling more STs, as long as it has thousands of empty seats. You will never replace that revenue with ancillary spend, even if casual fans spend more per game on merchandise than ST holders.
Therefore tripping people out of buying STs is bad for Charlton. Of course the sweet spot at which that doesn’t quite happen is up for debate.
BTW I think the £375 price is a bit of a red herring because many people would not consider sitting in the lower Covered End.
‘Lower Covered End’ ??????
it’s the CoveredEnd.
the bit above it isn’t the Covered End, it’s the Upper North.
FFS
So two names for one stand, including reference to a "North Stand" which, from a naming convention point of view, is generally derided by most fans?
Only 10 years ago we had a season ticket in the east stand A block for £150? Seems insane to me our cheapest is now £375 for an adult.
And people took the piss by buying a season ticket there and sitting in the D and E blocks.
I still remember the conversation I had with two people that decided to take my seat in D block and the one next to it.
Me: Excuse me, you're in my seat.
Guy: ...
Me: Could you move?
Guy: No.
Me: Look, that's my seat. I'm a season ticket holder and I've been sat there for every game since 1995.
Guy: Well, it's not your seat today.
The stewards refused to intervene and I had to relocate.
The only way to properly enforce it would be to make a separate entrance at Lansdowne Mews and separate the A block from the rest of the stand through barriers.
A and B blocks are still cheap £130 season tickets, but you have to be 16-20 to sit there and that restriction alone seems to be enough to limit the number of fans sitting elsewhere.
That’s quite shocking.
That he refused to move when we have lots of alternate seats to use and he was in the wrong and then the stewards could not assist.
I can sort of understand someone ‘upgrading’ themselves if unchallenged but even so!
Only 10 years ago we had a season ticket in the east stand A block for £150? Seems insane to me our cheapest is now £375 for an adult.
And people took the piss by buying a season ticket there and sitting in the D and E blocks.
I still remember the conversation I had with two people that decided to take my seat in D block and the one next to it.
Me: Excuse me, you're in my seat.
Guy: ...
Me: Could you move?
Guy: No.
Me: Look, that's my seat. I'm a season ticket holder and I've been sat there for every game since 1995.
Guy: Well, it's not your seat today.
The stewards refused to intervene and I had to relocate.
The only way to properly enforce it would be to make a separate entrance at Lansdowne Mews and separate the A block from the rest of the stand through barriers.
A and B blocks are still cheap £130 season tickets, but you have to be 16-20 to sit there and that restriction alone seems to be enough to limit the number of fans sitting elsewhere.
The 16-20 zone was in the NW quadrant last season & possibly next season, the areas in black on the stadium map are not open for sale.
Ahead of the 2024/25 season, Charlton have collaborated with the University of Greenwich to open a new, groundbreaking 16-20 zone at The Valley.
The section, which is located in the Covered End West Quadrant, is only open to supporters aged between 16 and 20.
Football prices these days are an issue across English football, not just us. Premier league match day prices are sky high now.
A lot of PL clubs fans are at war with their clubs as a lot of the big clubs are now limiting season tickets in favour of selling more match day tickets. They don't want the standard fan who has a few pints in the pub and turns up to the stadium 5 minutes before kick off. They want the family of tourists who pay expensive match day prices, then spend an hour in the club shop buying a ton of stuff.
The one thing the PL does do right however is it restricts the price of away tickets to 30 quid. We're going to find on many occasions this season that away tickets will cost 35-40 which is a joke.
Agree with the above BUT...with The Valley only about 60% full for most games in the last few years Charlton have the space to accommodate both loyal fans/supporters & visiting tourists/ families.
Only 10 years ago we had a season ticket in the east stand A block for £150? Seems insane to me our cheapest is now £375 for an adult.
And people took the piss by buying a season ticket there and sitting in the D and E blocks.
I still remember the conversation I had with two people that decided to take my seat in D block and the one next to it.
Me: Excuse me, you're in my seat.
Guy: ...
Me: Could you move?
Guy: No.
Me: Look, that's my seat. I'm a season ticket holder and I've been sat there for every game since 1995.
Guy: Well, it's not your seat today.
The stewards refused to intervene and I had to relocate.
The only way to properly enforce it would be to make a separate entrance at Lansdowne Mews and separate the A block from the rest of the stand through barriers.
A and B blocks are still cheap £130 season tickets, but you have to be 16-20 to sit there and that restriction alone seems to be enough to limit the number of fans sitting elsewhere.
Sorry to hear you experienced that.
I still don't see how that one off incident should be used to completely tarnish the offer.
If more seats were sold at the time, people wouldn't have been able to move. The Valley was half empty.
If stewards did their job, that would have been prevented.
It doesn't really bother me if someone pays for a cheaper seat and moves to an unoccupied* more expensive one, especially if they're a Charlton fan.
I'm more than happy to stick to my 10 games (plus 5 for the boy) 6 shirts between us, other tat and VG, just pointing out that the incentive for people to commit to more is decreasing.
It's great that some fans just spend the cash no matter what, but there's a big % where that extra £90 tips the budget over the scales... take the piss out of that all you like.
So you're far better off saving on the shirts and VG (ST will get you better priority anyway) and spending on a ST even if you don't get to enough games. You'd have enough left for a shirt each as well tbf.
Not saying I agree with the price increase though and not only because this is gonna be the phase 1 price next year
I was thinking the same and I fully appreciate we all have different finances, circumstances and priorities.
But if I was concerned about affordability of my team's matches, I would choose to go to £300 worth of games rather than buy £300 worth of shirts.
I'm not criticising nor suggesting what you or anyone should do. I'm just saying I would choose going to games rather than buying shirts.
The ticket revenue is worth far more to the club. £630 in ticket revenue is £525 net income. I don’t know what the profit is on shirts but let’s say it’s £10. I think the club gets half the revenue on VG, less costs. Let’s say that’s worth £50. So in the matchday example it’s £250 + £60 + £50 = £360 for the club.
Box it up how you like but the club will always benefit from selling more STs, as long as it has thousands of empty seats. You will never replace that revenue with ancillary spend, even if casual fans spend more per game on merchandise than ST holders.
Therefore tripping people out of buying STs is bad for Charlton. Of course the sweet spot at which that doesn’t quite happen is up for debate.
BTW I think the £375 price is a bit of a red herring because many people would not consider sitting in the lower Covered End.
‘Lower Covered End’ ??????
it’s the CoveredEnd.
the bit above it isn’t the Covered End, it’s the Upper North.
FFS
So two names for one stand, including reference to a "North Stand" which, from a naming convention point of view, is generally derided by most fans?
There is one stand - The Covered End.
It is split into two parts - Lower and Upper.
The Covered End, always was, always will be. The bit above is the Upper North #youarewelcome
I'm more than happy to stick to my 10 games (plus 5 for the boy) 6 shirts between us, other tat and VG, just pointing out that the incentive for people to commit to more is decreasing.
It's great that some fans just spend the cash no matter what, but there's a big % where that extra £90 tips the budget over the scales... take the piss out of that all you like.
So you're far better off saving on the shirts and VG (ST will get you better priority anyway) and spending on a ST even if you don't get to enough games. You'd have enough left for a shirt each as well tbf.
Not saying I agree with the price increase though and not only because this is gonna be the phase 1 price next year
I was thinking the same and I fully appreciate we all have different finances, circumstances and priorities.
But if I was concerned about affordability of my team's matches, I would choose to go to £300 worth of games rather than buy £300 worth of shirts.
I'm not criticising nor suggesting what you or anyone should do. I'm just saying I would choose going to games rather than buying shirts.
The ticket revenue is worth far more to the club. £630 in ticket revenue is £525 net income. I don’t know what the profit is on shirts but let’s say it’s £10. I think the club gets half the revenue on VG, less costs. Let’s say that’s worth £50. So in the matchday example it’s £250 + £60 + £50 = £360 for the club.
Box it up how you like but the club will always benefit from selling more STs, as long as it has thousands of empty seats. You will never replace that revenue with ancillary spend, even if casual fans spend more per game on merchandise than ST holders.
Therefore tripping people out of buying STs is bad for Charlton. Of course the sweet spot at which that doesn’t quite happen is up for debate.
BTW I think the £375 price is a bit of a red herring because many people would not consider sitting in the lower Covered End.
‘Lower Covered End’ ??????
it’s the CoveredEnd.
the bit above it isn’t the Covered End, it’s the Upper North.
FFS
So two names for one stand, including reference to a "North Stand" which, from a naming convention point of view, is generally derided by most fans?
There is one stand - The Covered End.
It is split into two parts - Lower and Upper.
The Covered End, always was, always will be. The bit above is the Upper North #youarewelcome
If there is an upper north, there must be a corresponding lower north. Where’s that?
Looking forward to enjoying my safe standing seat in the Covered End next season 😁.
Everyone knows it was North Upper and not Upper North anyway. Now the whole thing is the "Covered End" and you're either in the Covered End Lower or Covered End Upper.
I'm more than happy to stick to my 10 games (plus 5 for the boy) 6 shirts between us, other tat and VG, just pointing out that the incentive for people to commit to more is decreasing.
It's great that some fans just spend the cash no matter what, but there's a big % where that extra £90 tips the budget over the scales... take the piss out of that all you like.
So you're far better off saving on the shirts and VG (ST will get you better priority anyway) and spending on a ST even if you don't get to enough games. You'd have enough left for a shirt each as well tbf.
Not saying I agree with the price increase though and not only because this is gonna be the phase 1 price next year
I was thinking the same and I fully appreciate we all have different finances, circumstances and priorities.
But if I was concerned about affordability of my team's matches, I would choose to go to £300 worth of games rather than buy £300 worth of shirts.
I'm not criticising nor suggesting what you or anyone should do. I'm just saying I would choose going to games rather than buying shirts.
I buy me and my son shirts to wear, certainly won't stop doing that just to buy a ST for games I cant attend as that's perceived as being more loyal to the club. Also, me not buying a shirt, doesn't all of a sudden make 8pm kick offs on a Tuesday more viable... I still have work to do and/or away child to collect from school and feed.
I think you should re-read the thread and my comments. I've already said if a S/T is not cost effective for someone then it makes no sense to buy one.
I repeat, I go to all the games so it makes sense for me. You live much farther away and can't attend most of the games, so it doesn't make sense for you (nor would it me if I lived a fair distance).
You would be crazy to buy a S/T if you can't attend most of the games and I never suggested otherwise.
I see you home and away and know you're a loyal fan.
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‘Lower Covered End’ ??????
it’s the Covered End.
the bit above it isn’t the Covered End, it’s the Upper North.
FFS
I'm fine as I am, my firsts comments are not about what I can or can't afford, it's about the attraction of just buying a ST at all for the average person.
I only mentioned my rough annual attendance etc for the previous season as there seems to be a misunderstanding that you either buy a ST and fully support the club, or you don't and just float around for the big occasions.
isn’t not disclosing that the whole issue around the car finance schemes that millions of people are likely to get compensation for ?
I buy me and my son shirts to wear, certainly won't stop doing that just to buy a ST for games I cant attend as that's perceived as being more loyal to the club. Also, me not buying a shirt, doesn't all of a sudden make 8pm kick offs on a Tuesday more viable... I still have work to do and/or away child to collect from school and feed.
A lot of PL clubs fans are at war with their clubs as a lot of the big clubs are now limiting season tickets in favour of selling more match day tickets. They don't want the standard fan who has a few pints in the pub and turns up to the stadium 5 minutes before kick off. They want the family of tourists who pay expensive match day prices, then spend an hour in the club shop buying a ton of stuff.
The one thing the PL does do right however is it restricts the price of away tickets to 30 quid. We're going to find on many occasions this season that away tickets will cost 35-40 which is a joke.
I'm not really twisting anything, it was obviously a flippant response taking into consideration the comments from those that think you should just spend the money to prove you're a true fan.
I still remember the conversation I had with two people that decided to take my seat in D block and the one next to it.
Me: Excuse me, you're in my seat.
Guy: ...
Me: Could you move?
Guy: No.
Me: Look, that's my seat. I'm a season ticket holder and I've been sat there for every game since 1995.
Guy: Well, it's not your seat today.
The stewards refused to intervene and I had to relocate.
The only way to properly enforce it would be to make a separate entrance at Lansdowne Mews and separate the A block from the rest of the stand through barriers.
A and B blocks are still cheap £130 season tickets, but you have to be 16-20 to sit there and that restriction alone seems to be enough to limit the number of fans sitting elsewhere.
There is one stand - The Covered End.
It is split into two parts - Lower and Upper.
if we had 8k this year I reckon we'll get to 11k next year. maybe more
how many did we have in 19/20
Ahead of the 2024/25 season, Charlton have collaborated with the University of Greenwich to open a new, groundbreaking 16-20 zone at The Valley.
The section, which is located in the Covered End West Quadrant, is only open to supporters aged between 16 and 20.
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/charlton-and-university-greenwich-launch-16-20-zone
Based off last season I paid £27 most times so a £550 season ticket really doesn't feel appealing knowing if I miss 2/3 games I'll be worse off
I still don't see how that one off incident should be used to completely tarnish the offer.
If more seats were sold at the time, people wouldn't have been able to move. The Valley was half empty.
If stewards did their job, that would have been prevented.
It doesn't really bother me if someone pays for a cheaper seat and moves to an unoccupied* more expensive one, especially if they're a Charlton fan.
Looking forward to enjoying my safe standing seat in the Covered End next season 😁.
Why else in our famous chant would we sing "Many hours have I spent, in the covered End choir" if we are not all able to sing from there.
I've already said if a S/T is not cost effective for someone then it makes no sense to buy one.
I repeat, I go to all the games so it makes sense for me.
You live much farther away and can't attend most of the games, so it doesn't make sense for you (nor would it me if I lived a fair distance).
You would be crazy to buy a S/T if you can't attend most of the games and I never suggested otherwise.
I see you home and away and know you're a loyal fan.