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POST MATCH THREAD : Charlton Athletic V Crawley Town : Tuesday 3rd December 2024

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  • The defending for both goals was absolutely pathetic, both could've easily been avoided.
  • edited December 4
    Fed up with all this formation bollocks 4231 433 5321 ect just get 2 fucking wingers that can work up and down the pitch like newton and Robinson did 442. Fuck what everyone else does and them that say you can’t play that anymore. I don’t care if we lose we’re fucking losing now least we  might get some fucking entertainment. 
    I didn’t post last night I wanted to calm down before I did.fuckin shit keep saying I’m not bothered to myself but trouble is I am. 
    We got 2 six foot centre forwards and were lumping it up the middle to them. Give us some width and give them some fucking crosses. 
    Outplayed by Crawley it’s a fucking nightmare supporting us nowadays. 

    You don't even need "wingers" per se.  I know this is Premier but Liverpool use every blade of grass in and around their opponents box including out wide and unless you are going to call Mo Salah, Diaz, Gakpo, Nunez etc wingers; they are not but can all cross the ball from wide positions when they interchange.

    Even at the low level of League 1 you just need players who can play wide or central during a match,(Taylor and Grant were good examples of this) 

    I didn't know the team until they KO last night but when I saw the 3 slow Central forwards were chosen together again I knew Nathan Jones learnt nothing after he tried this before. I have never written Negative words from KO before but last night was the final straw as it was patiently obvious we would struggle and we made a poor Crawley side look good.

    Nearest thing I have seen to full agreement on CL with the Opprobrium.
  • It was disappointing.
  • edited December 4
    I think Jackson was let go because he told Sandgaard the truth in terms of what we needed and we have egotistic twats running the show who know better. Whether that be Roland, Sandgaard or the current lot.

    I was dubious that Jones was the right man and wanted us to follow the only template that has worked for us in recent years. Find a hungry up and coming Charlton man. But he did ok last season and I was happy to give him a chance. Even after some puzzling decisions. We can't keep sacking managers. Rhat has been my position. But he has lost me.

    I have a lot of questions, but here are some:
     
    Why when May was going for top scorer did he sub him or drop him last season. Was he just trying to be a git?

    Why did he drop Mitchell when we beat Shrewsbury 1-0 the week before?

    In the same vane, why does the team seem to have unexplanable changes game to game?

    And tactics, well why is he not trying to address the issue we have creating chances. I would say we have to have players who can beat a man and have a bit of pace. Why doesn't he try to find this when all the evidence shows this is our big weakness? Ok, we might not have loads of options but at least identify the issue and try to fix it!

    Why did he take Coventry off yesterday? Even if he wasn't having his best game the obvious changes were passed up. They looked like clueless panicked changes?

    And why the hell does he tape up his fingernails to stop him biting them? Does that not tell us something?
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  • what kid wants to go to school and say I support Charlton when all his mates no doubt support Man utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham etc. 
    You are giving them a valuable lesson in coping with adversity! 😄

    I must admit, I'm starting to feel a bit guilty about "forcing" #1 son into following the Charlton rather than our local (premiership!) club. 

    At least a disappointing Tuesday night for that one wouldn't be three hours travel door to door!
  • 2 wins in 11 League games. 
    Absolutely says it all, unfortunately. ..mid table oblivion in view at very best, on this shambolic showing. Worst case scenario, I don't want to think about. Sorry, but it's all about winning, scoring goals, clean sheets etc...clearly, nothing whatsoever doing here.Rank awful.
  • After 15 minutes i said to my lad that Crawley were shit,they really were there for the taking,after 20 minutes i said we're actually worse. Sat in the freezing cold and empty NWQ and it was a chore. For those who were lucky enough to not be there last night or watch it on the tv, however bad you think it was, it was worse. Truely an abysmal performance.
  • RoanRedNY said:
    Anyone else beginning to think Jackson wasn’t so bad.  Agreed he might not have got us promotion but surely to god he’d have got a tune out of some of these fucking deadweights we’ve pulled through the door and discarded over the last few years.
    I remember taking the view that Jackson was being short changed by the egotist Sandgaard. The form under Jackson was better than good 20 points from nine games then he lost both forwards to injury and then Sandgaard sacked him because he wanted to play a pressing game. We now know that Sandgaard wanted Jackson and Washington off the wage bill, convinced Garner to take over and promised him players to play that pressing game, knowing full well that rather than paying for a squad to be built, he was cutting back on anything and everything, lying prick. Would Jackson get a tune out of this side, only if he was allowed to bring in wide men to supply his front line but that misses the point, in my view he was a better manager than Nathan Jones because he produced results with less resources. 
  • I keep banging the same old drum. It’s not the players fault it’s the system they are being told to play and it shows they are not comfortable with it. My reasoning is that how can the same team play good football I.e Brum and lesser extent Hollywood FC and then play like a bunch of kids having a kick about in the school yard (not a good example as school yard football was of a decent quality although hectic). 
    It has to be the instructions from NJ. But what I don’t understand is why the backup coaches have not poked NJ in the eye?
    For those waning on their support @Braziliance id just like to ask when did you start watching Charlton? If it’s recent years then to throw on the towel so early in your support seems rather premature. It’s Charlton,  just enjoy the rare times they make you smile as that is a better feeling than winning all the time. 🥸🤓🤔🥳🍾🥂👍🏾🌞


  • Normal lazy job from Sky. According to their highlights video we were away
  • Solidgone said:
    I keep banging the same old drum. It’s not the players fault it’s the system they are being told to play and it shows they are not comfortable with it. My reasoning is that how can the same team play good football I.e Brum and lesser extent Hollywood FC and then play like a bunch of kids having a kick about in the school yard (not a good example as school yard football was of a decent quality although hectic). 
    It has to be the instructions from NJ. But what I don’t understand is why the backup coaches have not poked NJ in the eye?
    For those waning on their support @Braziliance id just like to ask when did you start watching Charlton? If it’s recent years then to throw on the towel so early in your support seems rather premature. It’s Charlton,  just enjoy the rare times they make you smile as that is a better feeling than winning all the time. 🥸🤓🤔🥳🍾🥂👍🏾🌞
    I'm 33 and been a Charlton fan since I was 10 years old. 

    I'm not going Lincoln because I can't, I'll be at every home game. I'm not going Northampton as it's not worth cancelling Christmas plans over and I've already been there a couple of times. 
  • Peterbro 0-1 Burton ……. These results happen this is a shock, at least Crawley were on a decent run of form …….. 
  • Peterbro 0-1 Burton ……. These results happen this is a shock, at least Crawley were on a decent run of form …….. 
    That was Crawleys first away win since August 
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  • Solidgone said:
    I keep banging the same old drum. It’s not the players fault it’s the system they are being told to play and it shows they are not comfortable with it. My reasoning is that how can the same team play good football I.e Brum and lesser extent Hollywood FC and then play like a bunch of kids having a kick about in the school yard (not a good example as school yard football was of a decent quality although hectic). 
    It has to be the instructions from NJ. But what I don’t understand is why the backup coaches have not poked NJ in the eye?
    For those waning on their support @Braziliance id just like to ask when did you start watching Charlton? If it’s recent years then to throw on the towel so early in your support seems rather premature. It’s Charlton,  just enjoy the rare times they make you smile as that is a better feeling than winning all the time. 🥸🤓🤔🥳🍾🥂👍🏾🌞
    I'm 33 and been a Charlton fan since I was 10 years old. 

    I'm not going Lincoln because I can't, I'll be at every home game. I'm not going Northampton as it's not worth cancelling Christmas plans over and I've already been there a couple of times. 
    Sorry mate I wasn’t trying to have a dig, it’s just when I read your earlier post it seemed so despondent and you have been very upbeat especially on your YouTubey stuff.  You can be assured that us old timers feel the same but unfortunately it what it is and there’s fuck all we can do about it other than bleed the pain. But when I read a post like wheresmyticket it puts things in perspective and then realise it’s only a game and it’s doesn’t really matter as we will continue forever our support for Charlton…win or lose…or lose and lose and play shit. 

    Merry Christmas and happy new year 🥳 
  • Solidgone said:
    Solidgone said:
    I keep banging the same old drum. It’s not the players fault it’s the system they are being told to play and it shows they are not comfortable with it. My reasoning is that how can the same team play good football I.e Brum and lesser extent Hollywood FC and then play like a bunch of kids having a kick about in the school yard (not a good example as school yard football was of a decent quality although hectic). 
    It has to be the instructions from NJ. But what I don’t understand is why the backup coaches have not poked NJ in the eye?
    For those waning on their support @Braziliance id just like to ask when did you start watching Charlton? If it’s recent years then to throw on the towel so early in your support seems rather premature. It’s Charlton,  just enjoy the rare times they make you smile as that is a better feeling than winning all the time. 🥸🤓🤔🥳🍾🥂👍🏾🌞
    I'm 33 and been a Charlton fan since I was 10 years old. 

    I'm not going Lincoln because I can't, I'll be at every home game. I'm not going Northampton as it's not worth cancelling Christmas plans over and I've already been there a couple of times. 
    Sorry mate I wasn’t trying to have a dig, it’s just when I read your earlier post it seemed so despondent and you have been very upbeat especially on your YouTubey stuff.  You can be assured that us old timers feel the same but unfortunately it what it is and there’s fuck all we can do about it other than bleed the pain. But when I read a post like wheresmyticket it puts things in perspective and then realise it’s only a game and it’s doesn’t really matter as we will continue forever our support for Charlton…win or lose…or lose and lose and play shit. 

    Merry Christmas and happy new year 🥳 
    Don't need to be sorry, I didn't think you were, I was just answering your question. Texting can always come across a bit different than how someone may have said something.

    I'll still be going, just having a mini break of sorts and I'll be picking and choosing a bit more. 


  • Normal lazy job from Sky. According to their highlights video we were away
    They're just getting reading for the return fixture in a month's time. Same old story...
    Same result. 
  • Peterbro 0-1 Burton ……. These results happen this is a shock, at least Crawley were on a decent run of form …….. 
    F@ck off Ronnie, it’s not that we lost, it’s the manner in which we lost. Get the shit out of your eyes, and admit that last night was an utter shower of shit. No effort, no creativity, no passion, no recognized style of play, it was just awful and has been for weeks! 
    It would have been a much better performance if we had only been a shower of shit (first 10 mins aside) rather than an overwhelming downpour of shit. 
  • Can't comprehend how a team that looked so good on Saturday turns into a bunch of useless, quivering wrecks 3 days later .. played off the park, outwitted and outfought by Crawley .. anyway, well done Rob Elliot who must be shaking his head in disbelief at what is the  dishevelled state of his first club as a professional .. too early to say Eliot for manager ?
    We have looked good against all the league two and national league sides, that’s our level 
    I disagree. We are at our level. As Curbs used to say, "The league table doesn't lie!"

    We are a consistently average League One side, with a proven track record of being mid-table over multiple seasons. No better, no worse. We will stay at this level until someone changes all that we have been doing up to now.

    Einstein said," Insanity, is to keep doing the same thing and to expect a different result!"

    I my book that makes Jones insane!!! 
    In my book that makes changing manager again insane.
  • edited December 5
    Peterbro 0-1 Burton ……. These results happen this is a shock, at least Crawley were on a decent run of form …….. 
    Ronnie I am not in the camp of ripping into you but if you trawl through the posts here, you will find, in the main, that it's about Charlton's performance on the night, it wouldn't matter who it's against or what their current form is, there is simply a level of expectation in your teams performance. There is also a huge number of posters who have watched the games either by being there or on Stream, the criticism of the team over the season is down to the wretched tactics employed by the Manager, 'keep it tight but if we do go one down then hoof ball ' that same Manager declared 'we looked better in the second half' when everyone who witnessed that second half thinks he's talking shit. This performance is happening too often from a squad of players assembled by Scott and Nathan Jones, in the starting eleven only two players, Leaburn and AMB were at the club before Scott and Jones arrived. We have a 28 man squad, early season we played five at the back, please don't tell me we had wing backs, because those wing backs never went into the opponents half, Steve Bruce sussed that by moving his full backs up and overmanned our midfield, on Tuesday night the twins got overmanned because once again an opposing manager can see that if his team wins the midfield, he has a good chance of winning the game. This seasons results and league position are down to those running the playing side of the club, we've long suspected that Scott is wrong for this club but a lot of us, me included, believed that Nathan Jones was right for the club, that is no longer the case. 
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