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January Transfer Window (rumours + actuals)

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  • edited February 4
    Talal said:
    fenaddick said:
    Wouldn't rule out getting a free agent winger if one becomes available, hopefully more of a Small signing than Lua Lua. I think getting Jones to sign a new deal and not selling Leaburn, Small or TC either is a sign of intent. 

    People keep saying we haven't replaced REG, we have with McIntyre. He himself has said he can play in midfield and Docherty's natural position is as a 6 so there's your Coventry cover. Z Mitchell on loan is a big show of faith in Josh Laq. GIlbert is an unknown quantity but at the very least will keep Berry on his toes as competition and means we have a like for like replacement on the bench rather than throwing Anderson on. 

    Totally get why it seems a bit underwhelming but we haven't lost anyone key and we've got in new players in 2/3 (4 if you include GK) that all fans wanted and NJ gets the smaller squad he's said he wants.
    When did McIntyre last play centre mid out of interest? REG was never a serious option there for me, just a last resort kind of thing.
    Tom McIntyre - Stats 22/23 | Transfermarkt

    Seems he's also been deployed as an Attacking Midfielder as well in the past... Although thats the season that Reading were relegated from the Championship, so they must have been desperate for options.. His overall stats say that he's only played 16-games in Midfield, whereas he's played 103-games as a Centre-Back

    REG on the other hand has only ever played 13-games in Midfield
  • I think all the outgoings were good other than Terry Taylor as we didn't end up getting any cover.
  • arny23394 said:
    For anyone interested I made a little tiktok doing a transfer sum up. Trying to make shorter videos
     
    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGdDc4wuJ/

    It's basically me crying for 2 minutes that we didn't spend a load of money like we should have 



    Not gonna lie, you look like you smell of piss
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jHzdMo-YCc
  • Talal said:
    fenaddick said:
    Wouldn't rule out getting a free agent winger if one becomes available, hopefully more of a Small signing than Lua Lua. I think getting Jones to sign a new deal and not selling Leaburn, Small or TC either is a sign of intent. 

    People keep saying we haven't replaced REG, we have with McIntyre. He himself has said he can play in midfield and Docherty's natural position is as a 6 so there's your Coventry cover. Z Mitchell on loan is a big show of faith in Josh Laq. GIlbert is an unknown quantity but at the very least will keep Berry on his toes as competition and means we have a like for like replacement on the bench rather than throwing Anderson on. 

    Totally get why it seems a bit underwhelming but we haven't lost anyone key and we've got in new players in 2/3 (4 if you include GK) that all fans wanted and NJ gets the smaller squad he's said he wants.
    When did McIntyre last play centre mid out of interest? REG was never a serious option there for me, just a last resort kind of thing.
    Tom McIntyre - Stats 22/23 | Transfermarkt

    Seems he's also been deployed as an Attacking Midfielder as well in the past... Although thats the season that Reading were relegated from the Championship, so they must have been desperate for options.. His overall stats say that he's only played 16-games in Midfield, whereas he's played 103-games as a Centre-Back

    REG on the other hand has only ever played 13-games in Midfield
    Thanks, so again looks like a last resort situation.
  • Our midfield is extremely understaffed. Cov, Doc, Berry, Gilbert & Karoy. We play 3 in midfield so that's 3 from 5 and to be honest i now dread an injury/suspension to either Cov or Doc because any of the other 3 aren't suitable replacements. That's a big problem.

    Also, who was the player Ron Noades son messaged one of ours? Surely a Palace player?

    Tovide clearly either failed a medical or we couldn't agree terms with him or the club. We seemingly put all eggs in that basket without being prepared enough with a back up.

    For me heads will have to roll as that's not good enough.

    If someone else says that by keeping Jones & Small we've had a good window i'll remind them that that's the minimum we should be doing. We need to add to players like that not just be glad we kept hold of them.
    Or there was never any truth in the Tovide rumour? It came from a couple of Colchester fans on X.
  • Scoham said:
    Our midfield is extremely understaffed. Cov, Doc, Berry, Gilbert & Karoy. We play 3 in midfield so that's 3 from 5 and to be honest i now dread an injury/suspension to either Cov or Doc because any of the other 3 aren't suitable replacements. That's a big problem.

    Also, who was the player Ron Noades son messaged one of ours? Surely a Palace player?

    Tovide clearly either failed a medical or we couldn't agree terms with him or the club. We seemingly put all eggs in that basket without being prepared enough with a back up.

    For me heads will have to roll as that's not good enough.

    If someone else says that by keeping Jones & Small we've had a good window i'll remind them that that's the minimum we should be doing. We need to add to players like that not just be glad we kept hold of them.
    Or there was never any truth in the Tovide rumour? It came from a couple of Colchester fans on X.
    He seemed baffled by them on Twitter so imagine no truth to them
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  • Can they just let us know who they're trying to sign now please?

    I dont care if it doesnt go ahead or not... I mean it doesnt matter if its not a secret, as no other club can sneak in and sign him
    I honestly doubt we have much competition for the players we are in for.

    Unless their recruitment team also have a fetish for crocked and bit part players. 
    Let's face it, we can't compete with championship clubs or top end league one clubs for money or status. With league one we are probably top 6 on choice. Let's face it, we cleared out some of our unwanted players, and we signed 2 unwanted players for a couple of months.

    January window has been more about not selling our jewels. Is that showing ambition? 
    Mate, we have a top4 budget by their own admission. We have also been told of their wealth and their ambition to get this club promoted. 

    I don't believe hanging on to players is ambitious, as they're under contract. Signing Lloyd Jones was a massive positive, fair play. But respectfully, as a Charlton fan, I have much higher hopes than us competing with Wycombe for the signature of a player already on our books. 

    I don't care about any players that left, they're all pants (excluding Terry Taylor), fair play for managing to get rid. That still doesn't change the fact those are all signings sanctioned by the same board. 

    Let's see who this last player is anyway, could change the field.
    They do have 


    Personally I'm glad the owners are not being stupid and throwing money at it because it's not necessarily guaranteed to get you promoted, if they go steady enough and we get top 10 this year that's an achievement on last year then we can aim for promotion next year when Birmingham and likely Wrexham or Huddersfield will be gone, if we happen to get play offs this season that's a massive added bonus.
    Sorry but that's a load of tosh. This season is the first in the last 3 that we've actually got a change of the play offs. What's the point of wasting that chance because Birmingham & Wrexham are in the division.  What happens next season when Luton & Stoke are in it instead ? Wait another season  ?  Strike while the iron is hot. But no, let’s just be happy that we'll finish 10th so an improvement on last season. 
    That’s all great but no-one’s actually explained why that means anything like what you’ve said it means. Still waiting for the club statement that says we’re packing up for the year.

    Last time we got promoted out of this division we replaced Karlan Grant with Josh Parker - and our results actually improved.

    ”Strike while the iron is hot … don’t waste a chance of top six” = “satisfy my whiny desires for today and sod whether it makes sense tomorrow”

    2+2=5 ?
    That improvement was nothing to do with Josh Parker.
    He played 10 games and made no impression in 9 of them and half decent in the final.(Winning that free kick )He scored Zero goals. 
    Karlan Grant would've ripped up League 1 over the last 4 months as Cullen, Bielik, and Aribo all kept improving as the season progressed. Bielik was getting scores of 5 in the 1st part of that season when he struggled at 1st at CB before having some excellent games in midfield and was sublime in the two 4-0 wins towards the business end when he scored a cracker. Other than the Final, Sarr was much better in the 2nd part of that play off winning season and Purrington and Dijksteel were both steady and strong as the season progressed.

    Grant and Taylor would've both scored over 20, plus assists and I will go to my grave believing we would have grabbed the automatic last spot. 
    Our only striker was Lyle Taylor baby on his own  before he became persona non grata. Both young Davison and Parker were far short of being League 1 strikers. Honest players but poor at that level.

    That argument I have heard before and as some one who saw many games that Parker played including that bad miss in front of the Covered end he was an honest but 2nd rate footballer who was Steve Gallen's 6th choice on his list of 5 !

    If anyone believes that Josh Parker was anywhere near the player that Grant was then Football analysis isn't for you.

    Callum, I like your optimism when the grumpy old men are in full swing but that statement in bold hides so many things I saw at the time.
    I think you are proving Callum’s point here 

    In 2018/19 we didn’t improve in the transfer window, we lost Grant and signed Parker. But we got better as a team in the second half of the season because our players improved, we had a mostly consistent team and players were used to playing together and the style 

    We’ve already got better as a team this season, so we could continue to develop and get better. TC and Small could start to add some more consistent end product, Leaburn has had some rest so could return to his form of a month ago or it could be that McIntyre is better than Gillesphey and Gilbert adds the creativity we lack. Just because we haven’t signed loads of players doesn’t mean we won’t improve between now and the end of the season, like we did in 2018/19 despite a poor window 
  • You watch the highlights of games in various divisions and so many goals come from playing with width. 
    Not necessarily wingers per se but players who are comfortable going wide: TC and Thierry Small have shown even on their 'wrong' side they can attack from a wider position which helps players running on to the ball which has given impetus for our push for the top 6.

    The management have achieved their streamlining with players leaving either perm or loans but we will be  short if we get the mandatory injuries which occur at most clubs and definitely at CAFC over a number of years.
    Holding on to Jones,( new contract) Small, TC and Leaburn were positives for now but not one permanent signing is disappointing when we managed to get to 7th and in contention for a play off place. Stick or twist could be a problem when we have to lay our cards on the table at the seasons end.

    Personally pleased we keep Kanu as he can run on to chances which Godden, Ahadme and Aneke can't and Leaburn can only do on occasions when he's switched on. Godden is the six yard king but just can't do the hard yards. 
    Chuks is looking a spent force but with his contract up soon might just find a 2nd wind ! 

    The forward with pace who can play wide and cross the ball was much needed and I hope we don't rue this in the run in as if TC gets injured we will sorely rely on Ramsey and Small for width or Kanu and Dixon to step up to the plate 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • There has rightly been criticism of the summer transfer window, but it seems to me that the club has not done too badly in this one, achieving their target of reducing squad size and adding players in two positions where it was targeted. The issue is whether Gilbert and McIntyre prove to add to what we have or not. 
    Some of the critics would do well to remember the poor ownership over a long period of time, the new owners and managers have improved the club in a number of ways and I believe they will further strengthen this summer, but promotion may take longer than we would all wish given there is much to do to get the club running properly in all areas.

  • Yes, I think there would have been league two takers for a loan so interesting that hasn't happened. 
  • edited February 4
    NJ and Rodwell said they'd be trying to add a few but would also be happy with not doing any business. Therefore my expectations for this window were very low and have been met. 

    It's now up to them to prove the squad has enough.
  • I don’t know how we’ve managed to get Gilbert - he appears to be like an Ajax master - can play anywhere across the attack and midfield 
  • No idea how good or not Gilbert or Mullofkintyre will be but I’d say that one comes with little experience and the other with less than glowing reviews. They seem to me to be spot on Charlton signings that we’ve seen come and go over recent seasons. If I’m honest I’m less than impressed and certainly don’t feel these two will tip us over the edge into genuine promotion contenders. I posted many times on this thread that we shouldn’t get excited or our hopes up and took quite a few lols for the trouble. I have little hesitation in saying the summer will be rinse and repeat. No confidence that we’re moving forward. Clubs treading water and as far as I can see going nowhere. 
    Great post, sums up my feelings perfectly 👍🏻
  • Jones' rhetoric all summer is that we would leave the window 'categorically stronger' than when we went into it.

    On the face of it, I am not sure this window passes the sniff test.

    GK:No Change

    Defence:
    We added 1 LCB, but lost 1, a competent youngster in Mitchell and a utility defender who whilst not great, did provide options if needed. McIntyre's reviews from Pompey are hardly glowing and a scroll back through the twitter reviews of him during this season suggests this is a long held stance. So defence is weaker.

    Midfield:
    Defensive: Taylor gone and not replaced, no back up in the squad for either Coventry or Doc should they pick up injuries.
    Attacking: Gilbert strengthens here and seems to be the profile we have been crying out for.

    Strikers: Hylton tbc, but with the money freed up I bet we give him until the end of the season.

    If we had signed Bennette, I still would have serious question marks over the idea of letting Reg, Taylor and Mitchell all go in the same window without bringing in any options.

    I think what we have done, is patch one gaping hole in the squad which is the lack of creativity, but we have replaced it with a squad with many more smaller holes.

    Lets hope that the team can stay fit.
  • NabySarr said:
    No idea how good or not Gilbert or Mullofkintyre will be but I’d say that one comes with little experience and the other with less than glowing reviews. They seem to me to be spot on Charlton signings that we’ve seen come and go over recent seasons. If I’m honest I’m less than impressed and certainly don’t feel these two will tip us over the edge into genuine promotion contenders. I posted many times on this thread that we shouldn’t get excited or our hopes up and took quite a few lols for the trouble. I have little hesitation in saying the summer will be rinse and repeat. No confidence that we’re moving forward. Clubs treading water and as far as I can see going nowhere. 
    We have quite clearly moved forward since Jones came in. We were scrapping for survival then and now we are level with 6th. In just a year that is definitely moving forward 
    Need to see where we finish after 46 games, mid table or below is hardly moving forward 
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  • How long will Aaron Henry be out for? He has a broken foot, but you assume he will be fit before the end of the season.

    Not ideal, but he will give another midfield option. 
  • edited February 4
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  • DOUCHER said:
    I think the real deflation is that neither signing seems like an oven ready ‘let’s have a crack at promotion’ type signing - more with an eye on the future 
    When Lee Bowyer brought in Parker, probably like many others, I wasn’t impressed and for most of the games he played, to me, it looked like we were carrying him and for a striker I can’t recall if he actually scored or not but we did look like a team that would win games and as it turned out we were awesome and won at Wembley against an equally strong Sunderland side. Parker was clearly the last piece in the jigsaw puzzle. 

    Just over two months ago I’d have had no issues if Nathan went. I wouldn’t have been the only one. We just didn’t look like a team at times. We do now and a lot of that has come at the same time as we’ve been playing with a consistent team selection. Trimming the squad down and bringing in just two players in those positions just looks like the right thing to have done if we are going to give it a good go at challenging for promotion. One, or both of them, could be this season’s ‘Parker’.
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