I knew it wasn't going to be a good day just 15 minutes after leaving home, as we were met with a multi-car shunt on the A2. After finally getting passed it, we were immediatley met with another one. (Bloody Bluewater shoppers). Finally got to my usual parking space with just 15 minutes to spare, walked away from the car to see a traffic warden on the opposite side, noting all the registrations, so I walked to the ground knowing I'll most likely get a ticket. Got to the ground and there were millions of people queuing to get into the Curbs stand, bloody great. Wrexham scored a forunate goal, they we scored a fortunate goal (no way he meant that), then the ref dies and we take a break. Second half was a scrappy affair, with the visitors looking likely to take all the spoils. NJ then brings on some old fella that I assume won "A chance to play for the Addicks" in a Valley Gold draw and Now I'm 100% convinced we're going home with our tails firmly between our legs, but being only one goal down, I sit it out (made the mistake of leaving too early too many times over the years). How did Ravan not get a straight red for hacking down TC, I'll never know. Nowhere near the ball and his pure intention was clear for all to see. I'm glad he did it though, as the free-kick led to the penalty (which I admit I didn't see the handball). So I left the ground somewhat happy, only to turn into the street where I parked, to see a swarm of yellow ticket plastered on multiple windscreens. Got to my car and...........nothing. So, I would like to personally thank Dizzy Doris and her ilk, for having their prang on the A2, as if I had arrived earlier, I would almost certainly be looking at a £70(?) fine now.
Really don’t think we are that far away… people losing trust in Nathan Jones perplexes me.
On another day we find the winner against Stockport and on another night we hold on to win against Barnsley.
Really small margins that would’ve changed October’s points tally from 6 to 10. Despite that, we’re still in touching distance of our ultimate end of season goals while carrying a few key injuries in the defence and not being able to secure a clear no. 1 keeper in the summer window.
There is still work to be done and I didn’t expect everything to be magically fixed in one window after three (four?) seasons of disappointment.
Callum I’m sorry but your opinions are so biased and and unbalanced, are you even watching our matches?
- you mention fine margins that could have favoured us, but seem to completely ignore the fine margins that could have just as easily/ more easily gone against us ie. Losing or drawing with Wigan, drawing with orient, losing to Rotherham, drawing with Shrewsbury, all of which were every bit as possible “on another day” as nicking a winner against Stockport.
- Barnsley one we deserved to lose that match comfortably, winning that would have been daylight robbery.
- we look clueless the moment the ball crosses the halfway line! There is no strategy for attacking or winning games and no quality to do so, and we can barely keep the ball once we attempt to progress it out of the defensive line.
Looking solely at the table, we are still just about in touching distance of the play offs (notwithstanding teams with games in hand), but evidence to date ie 1 good performance all season, a paltry 6 points from our last 7 matches, and continuing failure to offer any sign of being able to control football matches for any period of time suggests something significant needs to change.
The 1 window thing is an excuse, it’s perfectly possible at this level to make vast transformation at this level with 1 transfer window - the one we’ve just had was very poor and has arguably made the squad worse than it was in March or April. If what you do in one transfer window of significant overhaul is negative/ at best par, then further transfer windows are unlikely to help you.
I really hope he can turn it around and we can go on a run in November.
Do you think this response to what I said is balanced? Or are you being purposefully negative to try and make the posts between them balanced?
Find it shocking that you think that the summer window was a net negative or at best par when we were where we were last season.
Are you willing to put money down that we finish worse than 16th this season? I don’t expect you are.
Expecting the goalposts to be moved here with a “we should be expecting better” or “that’s a low bar” whilst that being a completely different point & one that everyone agrees with.
If you finish outside the top 6 it doesn't really matter whether you finish 10th 12th or 16th.
Now you could argue that 10th would be an improvement on 16th but in the big picture it makes little difference.
Top 6 at a minimum is what I would call an improvement.
So we’ll have made no progress at all until the moment that it all clicks into place and we do something we haven’t managed in four years?
There has to be some measurement of progress internally - if you’re on the payroll & involved in working to get this club on the up then you’ve got to cut through the noise and stop seeing things in black & white like fans will.
Working on the basis of promotion good & no promotion bad under Sandgaard is arguably what got us into such a mess, following many prior years of neglect.
But progress in football isn't linear. Just because a team finishes 14th one season and 9th the next doesn't mean they'll end up higher next year.
Real progress for us would be finishing where our budget is. If we've got the 4th biggest squad budget then we should be finishing something like 2nd-6th.
Really don’t think we are that far away… people losing trust in Nathan Jones perplexes me.
On another day we find the winner against Stockport and on another night we hold on to win against Barnsley.
Really small margins that would’ve changed October’s points tally from 6 to 10. Despite that, we’re still in touching distance of our ultimate end of season goals while carrying a few key injuries in the defence and not being able to secure a clear no. 1 keeper in the summer window.
There is still work to be done and I didn’t expect everything to be magically fixed in one window after three (four?) seasons of disappointment.
Callum I’m sorry but your opinions are so biased and and unbalanced, are you even watching our matches?
- you mention fine margins that could have favoured us, but seem to completely ignore the fine margins that could have just as easily/ more easily gone against us ie. Losing or drawing with Wigan, drawing with orient, losing to Rotherham, drawing with Shrewsbury, all of which were every bit as possible “on another day” as nicking a winner against Stockport.
- Barnsley one we deserved to lose that match comfortably, winning that would have been daylight robbery.
- we look clueless the moment the ball crosses the halfway line! There is no strategy for attacking or winning games and no quality to do so, and we can barely keep the ball once we attempt to progress it out of the defensive line.
Looking solely at the table, we are still just about in touching distance of the play offs (notwithstanding teams with games in hand), but evidence to date ie 1 good performance all season, a paltry 6 points from our last 7 matches, and continuing failure to offer any sign of being able to control football matches for any period of time suggests something significant needs to change.
The 1 window thing is an excuse, it’s perfectly possible at this level to make vast transformation at this level with 1 transfer window - the one we’ve just had was very poor and has arguably made the squad worse than it was in March or April. If what you do in one transfer window of significant overhaul is negative/ at best par, then further transfer windows are unlikely to help you.
I really hope he can turn it around and we can go on a run in November.
Do you think this response to what I said is balanced? Or are you being purposefully negative to try and make the posts between them balanced?
Find it shocking that you think that the summer window was a net negative or at best par when we were where we were last season.
Are you willing to put money down that we finish worse than 16th this season? I don’t expect you are.
Expecting the goalposts to be moved here with a “we should be expecting better” or “that’s a low bar” whilst that being a completely different point & one that everyone agrees with.
If you finish outside the top 6 it doesn't really matter whether you finish 10th 12th or 16th.
Now you could argue that 10th would be an improvement on 16th but in the big picture it makes little difference.
Top 6 at a minimum is what I would call an improvement.
So we’ll have made no progress at all until the moment that it all clicks into place and we do something we haven’t managed in four years?
There has to be some measurement of progress internally - if you’re on the payroll & involved in working to get this club on the up then you’ve got to cut through the noise and stop seeing things in black & white like fans will.
Working on the basis of promotion good & no promotion bad under Sandgaard is arguably what got us into such a mess, following many prior years of neglect.
But progress in football isn't linear. Just because a team finishes 14th one season and 9th the next doesn't mean they'll end up higher next year.
Real progress for us would be finishing where our budget is. If we've got the 4th biggest squad budget then we should be finishing something like 2nd-6th.
You have to have objective measurements somehow otherwise we’re just judging everything based off of vibes and that’s not doing anyone any favours.
I think people forget that we were actively flirting with relegation last season. As long as we don’t do that this season, that’s technically year over year progress.
I understand that football isn’t linear but that’s not an excuse to ignore things that don’t agree with your preconceived views.
Really don’t think we are that far away… people losing trust in Nathan Jones perplexes me.
On another day we find the winner against Stockport and on another night we hold on to win against Barnsley.
Really small margins that would’ve changed October’s points tally from 6 to 10. Despite that, we’re still in touching distance of our ultimate end of season goals while carrying a few key injuries in the defence and not being able to secure a clear no. 1 keeper in the summer window.
There is still work to be done and I didn’t expect everything to be magically fixed in one window after three (four?) seasons of disappointment.
Callum I’m sorry but your opinions are so biased and and unbalanced, are you even watching our matches?
- you mention fine margins that could have favoured us, but seem to completely ignore the fine margins that could have just as easily/ more easily gone against us ie. Losing or drawing with Wigan, drawing with orient, losing to Rotherham, drawing with Shrewsbury, all of which were every bit as possible “on another day” as nicking a winner against Stockport.
- Barnsley one we deserved to lose that match comfortably, winning that would have been daylight robbery.
- we look clueless the moment the ball crosses the halfway line! There is no strategy for attacking or winning games and no quality to do so, and we can barely keep the ball once we attempt to progress it out of the defensive line.
Looking solely at the table, we are still just about in touching distance of the play offs (notwithstanding teams with games in hand), but evidence to date ie 1 good performance all season, a paltry 6 points from our last 7 matches, and continuing failure to offer any sign of being able to control football matches for any period of time suggests something significant needs to change.
The 1 window thing is an excuse, it’s perfectly possible at this level to make vast transformation at this level with 1 transfer window - the one we’ve just had was very poor and has arguably made the squad worse than it was in March or April. If what you do in one transfer window of significant overhaul is negative/ at best par, then further transfer windows are unlikely to help you.
I really hope he can turn it around and we can go on a run in November.
Do you think this response to what I said is balanced? Or are you being purposefully negative to try and make the posts between them balanced?
Find it shocking that you think that the summer window was a net negative or at best par when we were where we were last season.
Are you willing to put money down that we finish worse than 16th this season? I don’t expect you are.
Expecting the goalposts to be moved here with a “we should be expecting better” or “that’s a low bar” whilst that being a completely different point & one that everyone agrees with.
If you finish outside the top 6 it doesn't really matter whether you finish 10th 12th or 16th.
Now you could argue that 10th would be an improvement on 16th but in the big picture it makes little difference.
Top 6 at a minimum is what I would call an improvement.
So we’ll have made no progress at all until the moment that it all clicks into place and we do something we haven’t managed in four years?
There has to be some measurement of progress internally - if you’re on the payroll & involved in working to get this club on the up then you’ve got to cut through the noise and stop seeing things in black & white like fans will.
Working on the basis of promotion good & no promotion bad under Sandgaard is arguably what got us into such a mess, following many prior years of neglect.
But progress in football isn't linear. Just because a team finishes 14th one season and 9th the next doesn't mean they'll end up higher next year.
Real progress for us would be finishing where our budget is. If we've got the 4th biggest squad budget then we should be finishing something like 2nd-6th.
Agree with your first statement... Strongly disagree with your second... Football is never truly dictated on paper
Really don’t think we are that far away… people losing trust in Nathan Jones perplexes me.
On another day we find the winner against Stockport and on another night we hold on to win against Barnsley.
Really small margins that would’ve changed October’s points tally from 6 to 10. Despite that, we’re still in touching distance of our ultimate end of season goals while carrying a few key injuries in the defence and not being able to secure a clear no. 1 keeper in the summer window.
There is still work to be done and I didn’t expect everything to be magically fixed in one window after three (four?) seasons of disappointment.
Callum I’m sorry but your opinions are so biased and and unbalanced, are you even watching our matches?
- you mention fine margins that could have favoured us, but seem to completely ignore the fine margins that could have just as easily/ more easily gone against us ie. Losing or drawing with Wigan, drawing with orient, losing to Rotherham, drawing with Shrewsbury, all of which were every bit as possible “on another day” as nicking a winner against Stockport.
- Barnsley one we deserved to lose that match comfortably, winning that would have been daylight robbery.
- we look clueless the moment the ball crosses the halfway line! There is no strategy for attacking or winning games and no quality to do so, and we can barely keep the ball once we attempt to progress it out of the defensive line.
Looking solely at the table, we are still just about in touching distance of the play offs (notwithstanding teams with games in hand), but evidence to date ie 1 good performance all season, a paltry 6 points from our last 7 matches, and continuing failure to offer any sign of being able to control football matches for any period of time suggests something significant needs to change.
The 1 window thing is an excuse, it’s perfectly possible at this level to make vast transformation at this level with 1 transfer window - the one we’ve just had was very poor and has arguably made the squad worse than it was in March or April. If what you do in one transfer window of significant overhaul is negative/ at best par, then further transfer windows are unlikely to help you.
I really hope he can turn it around and we can go on a run in November.
Do you think this response to what I said is balanced? Or are you being purposefully negative to try and make the posts between them balanced?
Find it shocking that you think that the summer window was a net negative or at best par when we were where we were last season.
Are you willing to put money down that we finish worse than 16th this season? I don’t expect you are.
Expecting the goalposts to be moved here with a “we should be expecting better” or “that’s a low bar” whilst that being a completely different point & one that everyone agrees with.
If you finish outside the top 6 it doesn't really matter whether you finish 10th 12th or 16th.
Now you could argue that 10th would be an improvement on 16th but in the big picture it makes little difference.
Top 6 at a minimum is what I would call an improvement.
So we’ll have made no progress at all until the moment that it all clicks into place and we do something we haven’t managed in four years?
There has to be some measurement of progress internally - if you’re on the payroll & involved in working to get this club on the up then you’ve got to cut through the noise and stop seeing things in black & white like fans will.
Working on the basis of promotion good & no promotion bad under Sandgaard is arguably what got us into such a mess, following many prior years of neglect.
But progress in football isn't linear. Just because a team finishes 14th one season and 9th the next doesn't mean they'll end up higher next year.
Real progress for us would be finishing where our budget is. If we've got the 4th biggest squad budget then we should be finishing something like 2nd-6th.
You have to have objective measurements somehow otherwise we’re just judging everything based off of vibes and that’s not doing anyone any favours.
I think people forget that we were actively flirting with relegation last season. As long as we don’t do that this season, that’s technically year over year progress.
I understand that football isn’t linear but that’s not an excuse to ignore things that don’t agree with your preconceived views.
Depends what you call a token amount Have heard it’s a significant amount and well over £1 mill He also fly’s over from Canada for most games My acception was to him being called a Twat
Really don’t think we are that far away… people losing trust in Nathan Jones perplexes me.
On another day we find the winner against Stockport and on another night we hold on to win against Barnsley.
Really small margins that would’ve changed October’s points tally from 6 to 10. Despite that, we’re still in touching distance of our ultimate end of season goals while carrying a few key injuries in the defence and not being able to secure a clear no. 1 keeper in the summer window.
There is still work to be done and I didn’t expect everything to be magically fixed in one window after three (four?) seasons of disappointment.
Callum I’m sorry but your opinions are so biased and and unbalanced, are you even watching our matches?
- you mention fine margins that could have favoured us, but seem to completely ignore the fine margins that could have just as easily/ more easily gone against us ie. Losing or drawing with Wigan, drawing with orient, losing to Rotherham, drawing with Shrewsbury, all of which were every bit as possible “on another day” as nicking a winner against Stockport.
- Barnsley one we deserved to lose that match comfortably, winning that would have been daylight robbery.
- we look clueless the moment the ball crosses the halfway line! There is no strategy for attacking or winning games and no quality to do so, and we can barely keep the ball once we attempt to progress it out of the defensive line.
Looking solely at the table, we are still just about in touching distance of the play offs (notwithstanding teams with games in hand), but evidence to date ie 1 good performance all season, a paltry 6 points from our last 7 matches, and continuing failure to offer any sign of being able to control football matches for any period of time suggests something significant needs to change.
The 1 window thing is an excuse, it’s perfectly possible at this level to make vast transformation at this level with 1 transfer window - the one we’ve just had was very poor and has arguably made the squad worse than it was in March or April. If what you do in one transfer window of significant overhaul is negative/ at best par, then further transfer windows are unlikely to help you.
I really hope he can turn it around and we can go on a run in November.
Do you think this response to what I said is balanced? Or are you being purposefully negative to try and make the posts between them balanced?
Find it shocking that you think that the summer window was a net negative or at best par when we were where we were last season.
Are you willing to put money down that we finish worse than 16th this season? I don’t expect you are.
Expecting the goalposts to be moved here with a “we should be expecting better” or “that’s a low bar” whilst that being a completely different point & one that everyone agrees with.
If you finish outside the top 6 it doesn't really matter whether you finish 10th 12th or 16th.
Now you could argue that 10th would be an improvement on 16th but in the big picture it makes little difference.
Top 6 at a minimum is what I would call an improvement.
So we’ll have made no progress at all until the moment that it all clicks into place and we do something we haven’t managed in four years?
There has to be some measurement of progress internally - if you’re on the payroll & involved in working to get this club on the up then you’ve got to cut through the noise and stop seeing things in black & white like fans will.
Working on the basis of promotion good & no promotion bad under Sandgaard is arguably what got us into such a mess, following many prior years of neglect.
But progress in football isn't linear. Just because a team finishes 14th one season and 9th the next doesn't mean they'll end up higher next year.
Real progress for us would be finishing where our budget is. If we've got the 4th biggest squad budget then we should be finishing something like 2nd-6th.
You have to have objective measurements somehow otherwise we’re just judging everything based off of vibes and that’s not doing anyone any favours.
I think people forget that we were actively flirting with relegation last season. As long as we don’t do that this season, that’s technically year over year progress.
I understand that football isn’t linear but that’s not an excuse to ignore things that don’t agree with your preconceived views.
What is my preconceived view?
I was talking about a general you rather than you in particular.
It might be something like I feel that the football isn’t very good to watch so we’re worse than last season.
Really don’t think we are that far away… people losing trust in Nathan Jones perplexes me.
On another day we find the winner against Stockport and on another night we hold on to win against Barnsley.
Really small margins that would’ve changed October’s points tally from 6 to 10. Despite that, we’re still in touching distance of our ultimate end of season goals while carrying a few key injuries in the defence and not being able to secure a clear no. 1 keeper in the summer window.
There is still work to be done and I didn’t expect everything to be magically fixed in one window after three (four?) seasons of disappointment.
Callum I’m sorry but your opinions are so biased and and unbalanced, are you even watching our matches?
- you mention fine margins that could have favoured us, but seem to completely ignore the fine margins that could have just as easily/ more easily gone against us ie. Losing or drawing with Wigan, drawing with orient, losing to Rotherham, drawing with Shrewsbury, all of which were every bit as possible “on another day” as nicking a winner against Stockport.
- Barnsley one we deserved to lose that match comfortably, winning that would have been daylight robbery.
- we look clueless the moment the ball crosses the halfway line! There is no strategy for attacking or winning games and no quality to do so, and we can barely keep the ball once we attempt to progress it out of the defensive line.
Looking solely at the table, we are still just about in touching distance of the play offs (notwithstanding teams with games in hand), but evidence to date ie 1 good performance all season, a paltry 6 points from our last 7 matches, and continuing failure to offer any sign of being able to control football matches for any period of time suggests something significant needs to change.
The 1 window thing is an excuse, it’s perfectly possible at this level to make vast transformation at this level with 1 transfer window - the one we’ve just had was very poor and has arguably made the squad worse than it was in March or April. If what you do in one transfer window of significant overhaul is negative/ at best par, then further transfer windows are unlikely to help you.
I really hope he can turn it around and we can go on a run in November.
Do you think this response to what I said is balanced? Or are you being purposefully negative to try and make the posts between them balanced?
Find it shocking that you think that the summer window was a net negative or at best par when we were where we were last season.
Are you willing to put money down that we finish worse than 16th this season? I don’t expect you are.
Expecting the goalposts to be moved here with a “we should be expecting better” or “that’s a low bar” whilst that being a completely different point & one that everyone agrees with.
If you finish outside the top 6 it doesn't really matter whether you finish 10th 12th or 16th.
Now you could argue that 10th would be an improvement on 16th but in the big picture it makes little difference.
Top 6 at a minimum is what I would call an improvement.
So we’ll have made no progress at all until the moment that it all clicks into place and we do something we haven’t managed in four years?
There has to be some measurement of progress internally - if you’re on the payroll & involved in working to get this club on the up then you’ve got to cut through the noise and stop seeing things in black & white like fans will.
Working on the basis of promotion good & no promotion bad under Sandgaard is arguably what got us into such a mess, following many prior years of neglect.
But progress in football isn't linear. Just because a team finishes 14th one season and 9th the next doesn't mean they'll end up higher next year.
Real progress for us would be finishing where our budget is. If we've got the 4th biggest squad budget then we should be finishing something like 2nd-6th.
You have to have objective measurements somehow otherwise we’re just judging everything based off of vibes and that’s not doing anyone any favours.
I think people forget that we were actively flirting with relegation last season. As long as we don’t do that this season, that’s technically year over year progress.
I understand that football isn’t linear but that’s not an excuse to ignore things that don’t agree with your preconceived views.
What is my preconceived view?
I was talking about a general you rather than you in particular.
It might be something like I feel that the football isn’t very good to watch so we’re worse than last season.
Oh right. Well I agree that doing better than avoiding relegation is technically progress. But it's like a criminal getting a five-year sentence after serving ten years before—it's progress, but not something to shout about.
From my viewpoint in the AC stand, not quite in line, the Wrexham No7 (?) Was probably offside when the ball was played in for their first goal. He then moved into the line of the ball, clearly interfering with play. The highlights video appears to confirm what I saw. The lino appeared not to have reached the offside section of the training manual.
I couldn't see live what happened for their second goal but the highlights video showed the goal scorer was potentially in an offside position. What was difficult to see was who played the ball to him. I think the Wrexham player kicked the ball forwards and the Charlton defender deflected it into the goalscorer's path. So potentially another offside goal. Maybe we were a little bit unlucky.
I knew it wasn't going to be a good day just 15 minutes after leaving home, as we were met with a multi-car shunt on the A2. After finally getting passed it, we were immediatley met with another one. (Bloody Bluewater shoppers). Finally got to my usual parking space with just 15 minutes to spare, walked away from the car to see a traffic warden on the opposite side, noting all the registrations, so I walked to the ground knowing I'll most likely get a ticket. Got to the ground and there were millions of people queuing to get into the Curbs stand, bloody great. Wrexham scored a forunate goal, they we scored a fortunate goal (no way he meant that), then the ref dies and we take a break. Second half was a scrappy affair, with the visitors looking likely to take all the spoils. NJ then brings on some old fella that I assume won "A chance to play for the Addicks" in a Valley Gold draw and Now I'm 100% convinced we're going home with our tails firmly between our legs, but being only one goal down, I sit it out (made the mistake of leaving too early too many times over the years). How did Ravan not get a straight red for hacking down TC, I'll never know. Nowhere near the ball and his pure intention was clear for all to see. I'm glad he did it though, as the free-kick led to the penalty (which I admit I didn't see the handball). So I left the ground somewhat happy, only to turn into the street where I parked, to see a swarm of yellow ticket plastered on multiple windscreens. Got to my car and...........nothing. So, I would like to personally thank Dizzy Doris and her ilk, for having their prang on the A2, as if I had arrived earlier, I would almost certainly be looking at a £70(?) fine now.
Happy days
? could someone have removed it? That would n't be a defence against the fine. resend the message in a month
Really don’t think we are that far away… people losing trust in Nathan Jones perplexes me.
On another day we find the winner against Stockport and on another night we hold on to win against Barnsley.
Really small margins that would’ve changed October’s points tally from 6 to 10. Despite that, we’re still in touching distance of our ultimate end of season goals while carrying a few key injuries in the defence and not being able to secure a clear no. 1 keeper in the summer window.
There is still work to be done and I didn’t expect everything to be magically fixed in one window after three (four?) seasons of disappointment.
Callum I’m sorry but your opinions are so biased and and unbalanced, are you even watching our matches?
- you mention fine margins that could have favoured us, but seem to completely ignore the fine margins that could have just as easily/ more easily gone against us ie. Losing or drawing with Wigan, drawing with orient, losing to Rotherham, drawing with Shrewsbury, all of which were every bit as possible “on another day” as nicking a winner against Stockport.
- Barnsley one we deserved to lose that match comfortably, winning that would have been daylight robbery.
- we look clueless the moment the ball crosses the halfway line! There is no strategy for attacking or winning games and no quality to do so, and we can barely keep the ball once we attempt to progress it out of the defensive line.
Looking solely at the table, we are still just about in touching distance of the play offs (notwithstanding teams with games in hand), but evidence to date ie 1 good performance all season, a paltry 6 points from our last 7 matches, and continuing failure to offer any sign of being able to control football matches for any period of time suggests something significant needs to change.
The 1 window thing is an excuse, it’s perfectly possible at this level to make vast transformation at this level with 1 transfer window - the one we’ve just had was very poor and has arguably made the squad worse than it was in March or April. If what you do in one transfer window of significant overhaul is negative/ at best par, then further transfer windows are unlikely to help you.
I really hope he can turn it around and we can go on a run in November.
Do you think this response to what I said is balanced? Or are you being purposefully negative to try and make the posts between them balanced?
Find it shocking that you think that the summer window was a net negative or at best par when we were where we were last season.
Are you willing to put money down that we finish worse than 16th this season? I don’t expect you are.
Expecting the goalposts to be moved here with a “we should be expecting better” or “that’s a low bar” whilst that being a completely different point & one that everyone agrees with.
If you finish outside the top 6 it doesn't really matter whether you finish 10th 12th or 16th.
Now you could argue that 10th would be an improvement on 16th but in the big picture it makes little difference.
Top 6 at a minimum is what I would call an improvement.
So we’ll have made no progress at all until the moment that it all clicks into place and we do something we haven’t managed in four years?
There has to be some measurement of progress internally - if you’re on the payroll & involved in working to get this club on the up then you’ve got to cut through the noise and stop seeing things in black & white like fans will.
Working on the basis of promotion good & no promotion bad under Sandgaard is arguably what got us into such a mess, following many prior years of neglect.
What has got us into the mess we are in is a succession of useless , clueless owners.
Now I'm not saying that applies to our current American Billionaires but time will tell.
In the meantime I'm not really interested in what goes on behind the scenes only in what happens on the pitch and in my humble opinion we are hardly any better placed than the last couple of seasons.
Remember Andy Scott said at the start of last season to judge him on results. We then finished in our lowest league position for 99 years. We have only won one of our last 7 league matches. So forgive me if I don't judge him very well.
This.
Are we any better than last season ? At this point I'd say no. We've lost the leagues top goal scorer, a player who ended up 2nd top scorer & top assist maker even though he left in January and finally we lost our midfield "stopper". Have any been replaced adequately ? The answer is demonstrably NO and most would say we are weaker in those 3 areas.
And then to say "give Jones time, he's only had one transfer window" I would answer that with that he knew those players had left / were leaving & so should have made their replacements a priority.
Yes, we might be less easy to beat than we were last season but that wasn't a high bar to beat, and it seems that Jones made the defence his no 1 priority. Which you might say was important......but in that case lets scrap this season already if staying up is to be the ultimate goal as I for one was hoping for a lttle better than beating 16th.
Really don’t think we are that far away… people losing trust in Nathan Jones perplexes me.
On another day we find the winner against Stockport and on another night we hold on to win against Barnsley.
Really small margins that would’ve changed October’s points tally from 6 to 10. Despite that, we’re still in touching distance of our ultimate end of season goals while carrying a few key injuries in the defence and not being able to secure a clear no. 1 keeper in the summer window.
There is still work to be done and I didn’t expect everything to be magically fixed in one window after three (four?) seasons of disappointment.
Callum I’m sorry but your opinions are so biased and and unbalanced, are you even watching our matches?
- you mention fine margins that could have favoured us, but seem to completely ignore the fine margins that could have just as easily/ more easily gone against us ie. Losing or drawing with Wigan, drawing with orient, losing to Rotherham, drawing with Shrewsbury, all of which were every bit as possible “on another day” as nicking a winner against Stockport.
- Barnsley one we deserved to lose that match comfortably, winning that would have been daylight robbery.
- we look clueless the moment the ball crosses the halfway line! There is no strategy for attacking or winning games and no quality to do so, and we can barely keep the ball once we attempt to progress it out of the defensive line.
Looking solely at the table, we are still just about in touching distance of the play offs (notwithstanding teams with games in hand), but evidence to date ie 1 good performance all season, a paltry 6 points from our last 7 matches, and continuing failure to offer any sign of being able to control football matches for any period of time suggests something significant needs to change.
The 1 window thing is an excuse, it’s perfectly possible at this level to make vast transformation at this level with 1 transfer window - the one we’ve just had was very poor and has arguably made the squad worse than it was in March or April. If what you do in one transfer window of significant overhaul is negative/ at best par, then further transfer windows are unlikely to help you.
I really hope he can turn it around and we can go on a run in November.
Do you think this response to what I said is balanced? Or are you being purposefully negative to try and make the posts between them balanced?
Find it shocking that you think that the summer window was a net negative or at best par when we were where we were last season.
Are you willing to put money down that we finish worse than 16th this season? I don’t expect you are.
Squad - minus May, minus Dobson. INs that have made a meaningful impact , thus far, only Mitchell and then to a lesser extent mannion and Edwards. I would say the squad would be better minus those 3 but + the lost 2. The best players this season thus far , jones, Ramsay and Coventry (I also really rate Small), were in Jones’ squad last season
no, I won’t put money down that we finish worse than 16th, but I will put money down that we don’t exceed the 1.6 pts per game Jones achieved as manager with the squad he had last season (excluding the Reading game which he didn’t count), or the 1.5 pts per game Jones achieved as manager (including the Reading game which he didn’t count). Let me know your bet.
And yes, my opinion _is_ balanced. Ie im considering the actual evidence, the “on another days” that might have gone both for us AND those that might have gone against us, our ACTUAL league position, and our ACTUAL performances across the entire season, ie the positives (Birmingham, half of Stockport, potentially Bolton) and the mediocre or bad performances (pretty much everything else).
Your views seem to be based solely on hypotheses eg we’re not far off the play offs, we’re not far away from it clicking, give it another window, if only we hadn’t conceded to Barnsley, if only me auntie had bollocks etc etc.
by the way, we were in touch with the play offs this time last season under Appleton when we had an almost identical record after 13 games.
I’m judging on the facts and evidence thus far. If I saw reason for excitement I’d be all over it. I hope I’m wrong and he turns it around so that Birmingham becomes the rule not the exception. But in the meantime I’m not burying my head in the sand based on blind hope.
Really don’t think we are that far away… people losing trust in Nathan Jones perplexes me.
On another day we find the winner against Stockport and on another night we hold on to win against Barnsley.
Really small margins that would’ve changed October’s points tally from 6 to 10. Despite that, we’re still in touching distance of our ultimate end of season goals while carrying a few key injuries in the defence and not being able to secure a clear no. 1 keeper in the summer window.
There is still work to be done and I didn’t expect everything to be magically fixed in one window after three (four?) seasons of disappointment.
Callum I’m sorry but your opinions are so biased and and unbalanced, are you even watching our matches?
- you mention fine margins that could have favoured us, but seem to completely ignore the fine margins that could have just as easily/ more easily gone against us ie. Losing or drawing with Wigan, drawing with orient, losing to Rotherham, drawing with Shrewsbury, all of which were every bit as possible “on another day” as nicking a winner against Stockport.
- Barnsley one we deserved to lose that match comfortably, winning that would have been daylight robbery.
- we look clueless the moment the ball crosses the halfway line! There is no strategy for attacking or winning games and no quality to do so, and we can barely keep the ball once we attempt to progress it out of the defensive line.
Looking solely at the table, we are still just about in touching distance of the play offs (notwithstanding teams with games in hand), but evidence to date ie 1 good performance all season, a paltry 6 points from our last 7 matches, and continuing failure to offer any sign of being able to control football matches for any period of time suggests something significant needs to change.
The 1 window thing is an excuse, it’s perfectly possible at this level to make vast transformation at this level with 1 transfer window - the one we’ve just had was very poor and has arguably made the squad worse than it was in March or April. If what you do in one transfer window of significant overhaul is negative/ at best par, then further transfer windows are unlikely to help you.
I really hope he can turn it around and we can go on a run in November.
Do you think this response to what I said is balanced? Or are you being purposefully negative to try and make the posts between them balanced?
Find it shocking that you think that the summer window was a net negative or at best par when we were where we were last season.
Are you willing to put money down that we finish worse than 16th this season? I don’t expect you are.
Expecting the goalposts to be moved here with a “we should be expecting better” or “that’s a low bar” whilst that being a completely different point & one that everyone agrees with.
If you finish outside the top 6 it doesn't really matter whether you finish 10th 12th or 16th.
Now you could argue that 10th would be an improvement on 16th but in the big picture it makes little difference.
Top 6 at a minimum is what I would call an improvement.
So we’ll have made no progress at all until the moment that it all clicks into place and we do something we haven’t managed in four years?
There has to be some measurement of progress internally - if you’re on the payroll & involved in working to get this club on the up then you’ve got to cut through the noise and stop seeing things in black & white like fans will.
Working on the basis of promotion good & no promotion bad under Sandgaard is arguably what got us into such a mess, following many prior years of neglect.
But progress in football isn't linear. Just because a team finishes 14th one season and 9th the next doesn't mean they'll end up higher next year.
Real progress for us would be finishing where our budget is. If we've got the 4th biggest squad budget then we should be finishing something like 2nd-6th.
You have to have objective measurements somehow otherwise we’re just judging everything based off of vibes and that’s not doing anyone any favours.
I think people forget that we were actively flirting with relegation last season. As long as we don’t do that this season, that’s technically year over year progress.
I understand that football isn’t linear but that’s not an excuse to ignore things that don’t agree with your preconceived views.
What is my preconceived view?
I was talking about a general you rather than you in particular.
It might be something like I feel that the football isn’t very good to watch so we’re worse than last season.
We are only one point better off than we were at exactly this stage last season. I see nothing in this squad which suggests we can improve enough to be challengers. Hope and wishful thinking will not get us there. At the minimum we need A goalkeeper Another good centre back. A midfielder who can run with the ball and deliver a killer pass, as Dobson did yesterday. A striker who can score goals.
If you cannot see that you must be living a great fantasy life.
Really don’t think we are that far away… people losing trust in Nathan Jones perplexes me.
On another day we find the winner against Stockport and on another night we hold on to win against Barnsley.
Really small margins that would’ve changed October’s points tally from 6 to 10. Despite that, we’re still in touching distance of our ultimate end of season goals while carrying a few key injuries in the defence and not being able to secure a clear no. 1 keeper in the summer window.
There is still work to be done and I didn’t expect everything to be magically fixed in one window after three (four?) seasons of disappointment.
Callum I’m sorry but your opinions are so biased and and unbalanced, are you even watching our matches?
- you mention fine margins that could have favoured us, but seem to completely ignore the fine margins that could have just as easily/ more easily gone against us ie. Losing or drawing with Wigan, drawing with orient, losing to Rotherham, drawing with Shrewsbury, all of which were every bit as possible “on another day” as nicking a winner against Stockport.
- Barnsley one we deserved to lose that match comfortably, winning that would have been daylight robbery.
- we look clueless the moment the ball crosses the halfway line! There is no strategy for attacking or winning games and no quality to do so, and we can barely keep the ball once we attempt to progress it out of the defensive line.
Looking solely at the table, we are still just about in touching distance of the play offs (notwithstanding teams with games in hand), but evidence to date ie 1 good performance all season, a paltry 6 points from our last 7 matches, and continuing failure to offer any sign of being able to control football matches for any period of time suggests something significant needs to change.
The 1 window thing is an excuse, it’s perfectly possible at this level to make vast transformation at this level with 1 transfer window - the one we’ve just had was very poor and has arguably made the squad worse than it was in March or April. If what you do in one transfer window of significant overhaul is negative/ at best par, then further transfer windows are unlikely to help you.
I really hope he can turn it around and we can go on a run in November.
Do you think this response to what I said is balanced? Or are you being purposefully negative to try and make the posts between them balanced?
Find it shocking that you think that the summer window was a net negative or at best par when we were where we were last season.
Are you willing to put money down that we finish worse than 16th this season? I don’t expect you are.
Expecting the goalposts to be moved here with a “we should be expecting better” or “that’s a low bar” whilst that being a completely different point & one that everyone agrees with.
If you finish outside the top 6 it doesn't really matter whether you finish 10th 12th or 16th.
Now you could argue that 10th would be an improvement on 16th but in the big picture it makes little difference.
Top 6 at a minimum is what I would call an improvement.
So we’ll have made no progress at all until the moment that it all clicks into place and we do something we haven’t managed in four years?
There has to be some measurement of progress internally - if you’re on the payroll & involved in working to get this club on the up then you’ve got to cut through the noise and stop seeing things in black & white like fans will.
Working on the basis of promotion good & no promotion bad under Sandgaard is arguably what got us into such a mess, following many prior years of neglect.
What has got us into the mess we are in is a succession of useless , clueless owners.
Now I'm not saying that applies to our current American Billionaires but time will tell.
In the meantime I'm not really interested in what goes on behind the scenes only in what happens on the pitch and in my humble opinion we are hardly any better placed than the last couple of seasons.
Remember Andy Scott said at the start of last season to judge him on results. We then finished in our lowest league position for 99 years. We have only won one of our last 7 league matches. So forgive me if I don't judge him very well.
This.
Are we any better than last season ? At this point I'd say no. We've lost the leagues top goal scorer, a player who ended up 2nd top scorer & top assist maker even though he left in January and finally we lost our midfield "stopper". Have any been replaced adequately ? The answer is demonstrably NO and most would say we are weaker in those 3 areas.
And then to say "give Jones time, he's only had one transfer window" I would answer that with that he knew those players had left / were leaving & so should have made their replacements a priority.
Yes, we might be less easy to beat than we were last season but that wasn't a high bar to beat, and it seems that Jones made the defence his no 1 priority. Which you might say was important......but in that case lets scrap this season already if staying up is to be the ultimate goal as I for one was hoping for a lttle better than beating 16th.
Christ...we are definitely better than last season as a squad and results, Stevenage was shit but yet they beat the mighty Wrexham aswell. We have had so many games this year alone where we would have crumbled of played last year and not dragged a draw and nicked a win.
I'm not sure why people think we have this god given right to smash the league. We have had a decent window ( honestly we have) but they need to gel. Birmingham shouldn't ( in theory ) be drawing at Mansfield and yet they did, results can't always go your way.
Unfortunately we have to be patient and let it click and I'm supremely confident it will click.
I think what a lot of people are forgetting is it was roughly this point last year things nosedived dramatically, we still had an outside chance of decent season. Realistically play offs are still in reach this season and we’re not playing well, if we can make it click then we should shoot up the table
Really don’t think we are that far away… people losing trust in Nathan Jones perplexes me.
On another day we find the winner against Stockport and on another night we hold on to win against Barnsley.
Really small margins that would’ve changed October’s points tally from 6 to 10. Despite that, we’re still in touching distance of our ultimate end of season goals while carrying a few key injuries in the defence and not being able to secure a clear no. 1 keeper in the summer window.
There is still work to be done and I didn’t expect everything to be magically fixed in one window after three (four?) seasons of disappointment.
Callum I’m sorry but your opinions are so biased and and unbalanced, are you even watching our matches?
- you mention fine margins that could have favoured us, but seem to completely ignore the fine margins that could have just as easily/ more easily gone against us ie. Losing or drawing with Wigan, drawing with orient, losing to Rotherham, drawing with Shrewsbury, all of which were every bit as possible “on another day” as nicking a winner against Stockport.
- Barnsley one we deserved to lose that match comfortably, winning that would have been daylight robbery.
- we look clueless the moment the ball crosses the halfway line! There is no strategy for attacking or winning games and no quality to do so, and we can barely keep the ball once we attempt to progress it out of the defensive line.
Looking solely at the table, we are still just about in touching distance of the play offs (notwithstanding teams with games in hand), but evidence to date ie 1 good performance all season, a paltry 6 points from our last 7 matches, and continuing failure to offer any sign of being able to control football matches for any period of time suggests something significant needs to change.
The 1 window thing is an excuse, it’s perfectly possible at this level to make vast transformation at this level with 1 transfer window - the one we’ve just had was very poor and has arguably made the squad worse than it was in March or April. If what you do in one transfer window of significant overhaul is negative/ at best par, then further transfer windows are unlikely to help you.
I really hope he can turn it around and we can go on a run in November.
Do you think this response to what I said is balanced? Or are you being purposefully negative to try and make the posts between them balanced?
Find it shocking that you think that the summer window was a net negative or at best par when we were where we were last season.
Are you willing to put money down that we finish worse than 16th this season? I don’t expect you are.
Expecting the goalposts to be moved here with a “we should be expecting better” or “that’s a low bar” whilst that being a completely different point & one that everyone agrees with.
If you finish outside the top 6 it doesn't really matter whether you finish 10th 12th or 16th.
Now you could argue that 10th would be an improvement on 16th but in the big picture it makes little difference.
Top 6 at a minimum is what I would call an improvement.
So we’ll have made no progress at all until the moment that it all clicks into place and we do something we haven’t managed in four years?
There has to be some measurement of progress internally - if you’re on the payroll & involved in working to get this club on the up then you’ve got to cut through the noise and stop seeing things in black & white like fans will.
Working on the basis of promotion good & no promotion bad under Sandgaard is arguably what got us into such a mess, following many prior years of neglect.
What has got us into the mess we are in is a succession of useless , clueless owners.
Now I'm not saying that applies to our current American Billionaires but time will tell.
In the meantime I'm not really interested in what goes on behind the scenes only in what happens on the pitch and in my humble opinion we are hardly any better placed than the last couple of seasons.
Remember Andy Scott said at the start of last season to judge him on results. We then finished in our lowest league position for 99 years. We have only won one of our last 7 league matches. So forgive me if I don't judge him very well.
This.
Are we any better than last season ? At this point I'd say no. We've lost the leagues top goal scorer, a player who ended up 2nd top scorer & top assist maker even though he left in January and finally we lost our midfield "stopper". Have any been replaced adequately ? The answer is demonstrably NO and most would say we are weaker in those 3 areas.
And then to say "give Jones time, he's only had one transfer window" I would answer that with that he knew those players had left / were leaving & so should have made their replacements a priority.
Yes, we might be less easy to beat than we were last season but that wasn't a high bar to beat, and it seems that Jones made the defence his no 1 priority. Which you might say was important......but in that case lets scrap this season already if staying up is to be the ultimate goal as I for one was hoping for a lttle better than beating 16th.
Christ...we are definitely better than last season as a squad and results, Stevenage was shit but yet they beat the mighty Wrexham aswell. We have had so many games this year alone where we would have crumbled of played last year and not dragged a draw and nicked a win.
I'm not sure why people think we have this god given right to smash the league. We have had a decent window ( honestly we have) but they need to gel. Birmingham shouldn't ( in theory ) be drawing at Mansfield and yet they did, results can't always go your way.
Unfortunately we have to be patient and let it click and I'm supremely confident it will click.
Again you’re just saying things… there’s nothing behind this?
why is the squad better, who’s improved us?
The results are not better, they are same/worse than we were achieving post January transfer window/ Jones last season.
What makes you supremely confident? Which players do you believe are going to gel and click and start hitting devastating form that enables us to win multiple matches, and score 2, 3, 4 goals in matches. Docherty, Campbell (A), godden, ahadme, hylton, berry, Dixon?
(Also nobody has mentioned any god given right. speaking in the context of our apparent top 6 budget and declared objectives of the ownership and manager which is that top 6 is the minimum goal.)
The league table doesn’t lie. 11th is about right. Can’t understand posters clinging onto the season as if we’ll suddenly morph into a top six team. We’re miles off yet again. No idea where this club is heading but we’re very much an established third tier football club now. Depressing and disappointing club to support. Jones was another false dawn. After 64 years of support I finally feel the passion for the club slipping away. It is what it is though I suppose.
The passion probably started slipping away when you moved a couple of hundred miles up north.
Coventry is pretty much the dictionary definition of 'a Cullen', it's the hyenas who are the real enemy others who lose massively by comparison to that team
This the player who passes side way and backwards most of the time. When he passes forward more often than not it is to an opponent. He cannot keep the ball when he has it his feet and cannot win a tackle.
Coventry is pretty much the dictionary definition of 'a Cullen', it's the hyenas who are the real enemy others who lose massively by comparison to that team
This the player who passes side way and backwards most of the time. When he passes forward more often than not it is to an opponent. He cannot keep the ball when he has it his feet and cannot win a tackle.
I’m still not convinced by him tbh and my view is Dobson would walk into our team but I will say it must be difficult to pass it forward when you know whoever you pass it to isn’t going to control or shield the ball enough to keep possession so you know in about 5 seconds the ball is coming back and we are under pressure
It stands to reason that having a near sell out crowd in 2024 would bring "record receipts" when comparing it to the Premier League days 20 years ago. Standard Adult tickets were £30 a pop.
It's called inflation Mr Carter.
It depends whether and how you count season ticket income. We had higher ticket prices than yesterday for some games in the PL (£45 from recollection, which was a board imposition not supported by the senior staff). We didn’t sell out, but three quarters of the ground was season tickets. Yesterday it was a third.
If we’re talking matchday only then it’s a question of whether 15,000-ish sales amount to more than the highest cup receipts from a lower ticket price but a bigger sale.
That probably would have been the highest match receipts for a home league game yesterday, but it’s an apples and pears comparison - even before inflation.
Coventry is pretty much the dictionary definition of 'a Cullen', it's the hyenas who are the real enemy others who lose massively by comparison to that team
This the player who passes side way and backwards most of the time. When he passes forward more often than not it is to an opponent. He cannot keep the ball when he has it his feet and cannot win a tackle.
If any of you were wondering why I do this, it's because of this sort of crap
Whatever the reasons behind it and regardless of the ££’s taken surely the important thing is that the Valley looked great without the gaping holes of empty seats for once. I honestly can’t see a downside apart from all those pesky new comers disturbing the stalwarts whilst trying to get to their seats 😜
Coventry is pretty much the dictionary definition of 'a Cullen', it's the hyenas who are the real enemy others who lose massively by comparison to that team
This the player who passes side way and backwards most of the time. When he passes forward more often than not it is to an opponent. He cannot keep the ball when he has it his feet and cannot win a tackle.
I’m still not convinced by him tbh and my view is Dobson would walk into our team but I will say it must be difficult to pass it forward when you know whoever you pass it to isn’t going to control or shield the ball enough to keep possession so you know in about 5 seconds the ball is coming back and we are under pressure
Dobson would walk into our team, yes, but Coventry would still walk into our team
That bit of good fortune at the end yesterday might turn our season. It may not. I don't know, and I'm not going to call it one way or another, but we have a manager who's more then capable of turning it, even if it's hard to see how based on what's been offered up so far. It's the not knowing that gives you hope.
Who would have predicted after we beat Reading 4-0 last season to go tenth that we'd be dicing with relegation a few weeks later. Well if others did, I admit I never saw it coming. Too early to write the season off.
Coventry is pretty much the dictionary definition of 'a Cullen', it's the hyenas who are the real enemy others who lose massively by comparison to that team
This the player who passes side way and backwards most of the time. When he passes forward more often than not it is to an opponent. He cannot keep the ball when he has it his feet and cannot win a tackle.
I’m still not convinced by him tbh and my view is Dobson would walk into our team but I will say it must be difficult to pass it forward when you know whoever you pass it to isn’t going to control or shield the ball enough to keep possession so you know in about 5 seconds the ball is coming back and we are under pressure
Dobson would walk into our team, yes, but Coventry would still walk into our team
I’m not saying he wouldn’t mate as I said I’m not putting the guy down but I was making a point that we have nobody in midfield that would keep Dobson out of the team which makes the thinking behind letting him go even stranger if the replacements are not better
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So, I would like to personally thank Dizzy Doris and her ilk, for having their prang on the A2, as if I had arrived earlier, I would almost certainly be looking at a £70(?) fine now.
Happy days
Real progress for us would be finishing where our budget is. If we've got the 4th biggest squad budget then we should be finishing something like 2nd-6th.
I think people forget that we were actively flirting with relegation last season. As long as we don’t do that this season, that’s technically year over year progress.
I understand that football isn’t linear but that’s not an excuse to ignore things that don’t agree with your preconceived views.
I was told it was only a token amount.
If you have proof He put in millions please share.
Have heard it’s a significant amount and well over £1 mill
He also fly’s over from Canada for most games My acception was to him being called a Twat
It might be something like I feel that the football isn’t very good to watch so we’re worse than last season.
I couldn't see live what happened for their second goal but the highlights video showed the goal scorer was potentially in an offside position. What was difficult to see was who played the ball to him. I think the Wrexham player kicked the ball forwards and the Charlton defender deflected it into the goalscorer's path. So potentially another offside goal. Maybe we were a little bit unlucky.
Are we any better than last season ? At this point I'd say no. We've lost the leagues top goal scorer, a player who ended up 2nd top scorer & top assist maker even though he left in January and finally we lost our midfield "stopper". Have any been replaced adequately ? The answer is demonstrably NO and most would say we are weaker in those 3 areas.
And then to say "give Jones time, he's only had one transfer window" I would answer that with that he knew those players had left / were leaving & so should have made their replacements a priority.
Yes, we might be less easy to beat than we were last season but that wasn't a high bar to beat, and it seems that Jones made the defence his no 1 priority. Which you might say was important......but in that case lets scrap this season already if staying up is to be the ultimate goal as I for one was hoping for a lttle better than beating 16th.
no, I won’t put money down that we finish worse than 16th, but I will put money down that we don’t exceed the 1.6 pts per game Jones achieved as manager with the squad he had last season (excluding the Reading game which he didn’t count), or the 1.5 pts per game Jones achieved as manager (including the Reading game which he didn’t count). Let me know your bet.
And yes, my opinion _is_ balanced. Ie im considering the actual evidence, the “on another days” that might have gone both for us AND those that might have gone against us, our ACTUAL league position, and our ACTUAL performances across the entire season, ie the positives (Birmingham, half of Stockport, potentially Bolton) and the mediocre or bad performances (pretty much everything else).
by the way, we were in touch with the play offs this time last season under Appleton when we had an almost identical record after 13 games.
At the minimum we need
A goalkeeper
Another good centre back.
A midfielder who can run with the ball and deliver a killer pass, as Dobson did yesterday.
A striker who can score goals.
If you cannot see that you must be living a great fantasy life.
I'm not sure why people think we have this god given right to smash the league. We have had a decent window ( honestly we have) but they need to gel. Birmingham shouldn't ( in theory ) be drawing at Mansfield and yet they did, results can't always go your way.
Unfortunately we have to be patient and let it click and I'm supremely confident it will click.
why is the squad better, who’s improved us?
The results are not better, they are same/worse than we were achieving post January transfer window/ Jones last season.
He cannot keep the ball when he has it his feet and cannot win a tackle.
If we’re talking matchday only then it’s a question of whether 15,000-ish sales amount to more than the highest cup receipts from a lower ticket price but a bigger sale.
That probably would have been the highest match receipts for a home league game yesterday, but it’s an apples and pears comparison - even before inflation.
Who would have predicted after we beat Reading 4-0 last season to go tenth that we'd be dicing with relegation a few weeks later. Well if others did, I admit I never saw it coming. Too early to write the season off.