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  • MrBurns said:
    redman said:
    MrBurns said:
    I think we have a tendency to overhype our players (as do most fan bases) and this squad isn't as strong as last season (maybe with Mannion and A Mitchell being the only strengths). I think we're 4/5 top end league 1 players short of a promotion push. That said January is the worst time to try and bring in that type of quality without spending ridiculous fees on players and even then clubs are reluctant to part with their top players. I think without getting another solid defender, an attacking minded midfielder and a better forward we will finish mid table this season. Which would be an improvement on last season's position, which puts into context how really bad we were last season. This isn't an over night fix and we need to keep with Jones. I probably sound ridiculous saying this as it's only October but I believe we need another summer transfer window to fix this squad to stand a chance of top 6. 
    "we have a tendency to overhype our players". Really! Do you ever come on CL. I think the only player hyped was Taylor when he wasn't playing!

    We are 1 point off the play offs everybody. Far too much pessimism around. Will we make top 6? Maybe, maybe not but I don't think we will be far away. 

    Coventry has been labelled as one the best midfielder in the league on here even before he kicked a ball for us
    Nonsense . I presume your on full troll mode again today . 
    Not trolling. Just talking the truth.

    I remember the posts on here saying that he was mustard & how we beat a Championship side to his signing. All the posters seem to have W Ham supporting mates who were drooling over how good he was & how they were surprised W Ham were letting him go. 
  • My thoughts after 12 games?
    That by and large we have a mediocre group. I keep clinging to the hope that the whole will click into a unit that far exceeds the sum of it's parts.
    Nathan came in last year and resolved the most important issue by tightening up at the back and making us difficult to beat.
    I hoped the recruitment would supplement this by making us a potent attacking force.
    I didn't expect that our gameplan would primarily revolve around high energy high press to apparantly force errors of indeterminate nature which we would theoretically capitalise on by scoring in some indeterminate way.
    We are mostly unexciting, error-strewn, pedestrian and unconvincing.
    Our players aren't crap, they are competitive, energetic and hard-working ("front footed and aggressive", yawn ffs).
    We were outstanding against Birmingham, primarily because the players played out of their skin to nullify a superior side.
    Not all the players are mediocre. Godden deserves better service. Chuks is thrown on like a footballing Red Adair. Leaburn is still feeling his way back in. Ramsay, what a tragic time to get that injury.
    But there is nobody to excite, no Yann, no Lyle Taylor.
    Coventry our best midfielder, hampered by a set piece duty he is hopeless at is, if I am harsh, a shit Josh Cullen. Tyreece is our nearest to gifted wildcard, but with no assists or goals can't carry our hopes on his shoulders.
    I spend most of my time watching us in utter frustration  and without a fcuking clue how any game might pan out.
    Nailed it.
  • redman said:
    MrBurns said:
    I think we have a tendency to overhype our players (as do most fan bases) and this squad isn't as strong as last season (maybe with Mannion and A Mitchell being the only strengths). I think we're 4/5 top end league 1 players short of a promotion push. That said January is the worst time to try and bring in that type of quality without spending ridiculous fees on players and even then clubs are reluctant to part with their top players. I think without getting another solid defender, an attacking minded midfielder and a better forward we will finish mid table this season. Which would be an improvement on last season's position, which puts into context how really bad we were last season. This isn't an over night fix and we need to keep with Jones. I probably sound ridiculous saying this as it's only October but I believe we need another summer transfer window to fix this squad to stand a chance of top 6. 
    "we have a tendency to overhype our players". Really! Do you ever come on CL. I think the only player hyped was Taylor when he wasn't playing!

    We are 1 point off the play offs everybody. Far too much pessimism around. Will we make top 6? Maybe, maybe not but I don't think we will be far away. 

    I think the SMT / Nathan Jones said top 6 was bare minimum. 

    If we end up 7th we might as well up 17th. Makes no odds does it. 
    I mean it shows growth 📈 but not enough. 
  • Milan said:
    We've scored a paltry 13 goals in 12 games. Had we kept May, one wonders, would some of these draws have resulted in 3 points? Yes, I know, boring, boring, boring, he was keen to leave, but we should have held him to his contract and made him run it down. Instead we're lumbered with a "strikeforce" that's never going to help us achieve anything beyond mid table mediocrity. That would almost be palatable if there was some exciting football on offer and a few goals to enjoy.
    May has scored 1 goal in his last 7 games, and that's for a team producing a hell of a lot more than we are. He's always been a streaky player with very good purple patches but I don't think he would be the difference between us winning and drawing many more games at the moment as we create so few chances. May has 5 goals in 14 games across approx 848 minutes this season, Godden has 4 goals in 12 games across approx 494 minutes. May has started 10 games, Godden 6. He might have taken one of Godden's chances yesterday but he misses chances too, as any L1 striker will. I'd much, much rather have had him this season than not but I think we have far wider issues to work on than just having a goalscorer, and Godden's not produced substantially less so far this season than May has in a much weaker team. I don't think May would have more than 4 or 5 goals in our team this season based on what we've created so far.
    Lol, “Streaky”

    21/22: 23 goals
    22/23: 20 goals 
    23/24: 23 goals 

    If that’s your idea of “streaky” I would love to know what you class as consistent.


    Streaky as in goes through phases of scoring lots of goals and then phases of scoring not many at all in chunks. Last season for instance he didn't score for his first 3 games then scored 4 in his next three which led to a run where at one point he scored 11 goals in 10 games. He then scored 1 goal in his next 13 for us. Then he got 5 in his next 5, followed by 2 in his next 7, both of which came in one game. 11 goals in 10 games is unreal, but 1 in 13 is terrible. Overall for that period it's 12 in 23 which is a good record but he does go through periods where he's red hot and periods where he's useless in front of goal.

    In 22/23 for Cheltenham he got 1 goal in his first 7 games, got injured and came back to score 6 in his next 9, followed by 0 in 7, then 11 in 13. The season before that it was 3 in his first 17, 4 in 4, 0 in 7, a slightly insane 8 in 4, then 8 in 14 which is his most normal run. He's feast or famine across a season. This season you can't really draw too much from such a limited data set but 4 in his first 4 followed by 1 in his next 7 indicates it's probably going to happen again across the season. He'll likely get 20 goals again unless he's dropped for an extended period but it'll be in streaks across the season.
    I wish I could lol a post more than once.

    Don't worry because Ahadme is half the player Alfie is.

    The problem is he isn't the 11 goals in 10 games player. He is the 1 in 13 one.
     Ahadme isn't 1 in 13, he's 1 in 8. Which is still not great.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Milan said:
    We've scored a paltry 13 goals in 12 games. Had we kept May, one wonders, would some of these draws have resulted in 3 points? Yes, I know, boring, boring, boring, he was keen to leave, but we should have held him to his contract and made him run it down. Instead we're lumbered with a "strikeforce" that's never going to help us achieve anything beyond mid table mediocrity. That would almost be palatable if there was some exciting football on offer and a few goals to enjoy.
    May has scored 1 goal in his last 7 games, and that's for a team producing a hell of a lot more than we are. He's always been a streaky player with very good purple patches but I don't think he would be the difference between us winning and drawing many more games at the moment as we create so few chances. May has 5 goals in 14 games across approx 848 minutes this season, Godden has 4 goals in 12 games across approx 494 minutes. May has started 10 games, Godden 6. He might have taken one of Godden's chances yesterday but he misses chances too, as any L1 striker will. I'd much, much rather have had him this season than not but I think we have far wider issues to work on than just having a goalscorer, and Godden's not produced substantially less so far this season than May has in a much weaker team. I don't think May would have more than 4 or 5 goals in our team this season based on what we've created so far.
    Lol, “Streaky”

    21/22: 23 goals
    22/23: 20 goals 
    23/24: 23 goals 

    If that’s your idea of “streaky” I would love to know what you class as consistent.


    Streaky as in goes through phases of scoring lots of goals and then phases of scoring not many at all in chunks. Last season for instance he didn't score for his first 3 games then scored 4 in his next three which led to a run where at one point he scored 11 goals in 10 games. He then scored 1 goal in his next 13 for us. Then he got 5 in his next 5, followed by 2 in his next 7, both of which came in one game. 11 goals in 10 games is unreal, but 1 in 13 is terrible. Overall for that period it's 12 in 23 which is a good record but he does go through periods where he's red hot and periods where he's useless in front of goal.

    In 22/23 for Cheltenham he got 1 goal in his first 7 games, got injured and came back to score 6 in his next 9, followed by 0 in 7, then 11 in 13. The season before that it was 3 in his first 17, 4 in 4, 0 in 7, a slightly insane 8 in 4, then 8 in 14 which is his most normal run. He's feast or famine across a season. This season you can't really draw too much from such a limited data set but 4 in his first 4 followed by 1 in his next 7 indicates it's probably going to happen again across the season. He'll likely get 20 goals again unless he's dropped for an extended period but it'll be in streaks across the season.
    I wish I could lol a post more than once.

    Don't worry because Ahadme is half the player Alfie is.

    The problem is he isn't the 11 goals in 10 games player. He is the 1 in 13 one.
     Ahadme isn't 1 in 13, he's 1 in 8. Which is still not great.
    Wait until December. 
  • Sort the midfield out and we get Jones/Ramsey back fit sooner rather than later then we have a decent chance of making the playoffs.

    The midfield is the key for me. At the moment a lack of creativity and wide players with quality 
  • edited October 24
    Too hit and miss, I'm not one of the imbeciles who believe we should be 1st or 2nd and that automatic promotion has to be the goal after we sold a certain striker. I am however one of the imbeciles who believe we need to get play-offs this season anything else is a disappointment, the truth is we are still around the play-off places when looking at points (I know we are 11th) but the throwing away points has now put a big pressure on the next 12 matches, if we hit a bad run of form it will be Jan/Feb and we will be well off it.

    All this said we need to also be realistic there are a lot of good (and big spending teams) who are just as big (if not bigger) as us and we have no god given right to success because we used to be in the Premier League. Right now unless we have a massive uptick in form, I can see us making play-offs but bottling it, I think when you compare to previous promotion seasons (all two of them in the past 20 years) we lack characters, yes we have talent and id argue in SOME cases more talented players than previous but there seems to be a lack of resiliency and steelness to them  
  • If we don’t improve our finishing we have no chance of going up. Our top scorer is a player who invariably comes off the bench. Says it all really.
  • It's the hope that kills you
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  • agim said:
    Feel like Jones put all his eggs in one basket re this year's formation leaving only one real winger in the squad, two if you count Dixon. I also feel he gambled on quantity over quality in the forward department after loosing May and I think that's something that's backfired.

    I don't care what anyone says the board cannot be serious about promotion after letting a proven 20 goal a season striker leave. How can you sell your best asset and not replace him. 
    Agreed we should have forced the 32 year old striker who WANTED to move to a club that was going to almost quadruple his wages, let him live closer to his wife's family and probably win something this year. Can't see how on earth that could ever effect morale.
  • Milan said:
    We've scored a paltry 13 goals in 12 games. Had we kept May, one wonders, would some of these draws have resulted in 3 points? Yes, I know, boring, boring, boring, he was keen to leave, but we should have held him to his contract and made him run it down. Instead we're lumbered with a "strikeforce" that's never going to help us achieve anything beyond mid table mediocrity. That would almost be palatable if there was some exciting football on offer and a few goals to enjoy.
    May has scored 1 goal in his last 7 games, and that's for a team producing a hell of a lot more than we are. He's always been a streaky player with very good purple patches but I don't think he would be the difference between us winning and drawing many more games at the moment as we create so few chances. May has 5 goals in 14 games across approx 848 minutes this season, Godden has 4 goals in 12 games across approx 494 minutes. May has started 10 games, Godden 6. He might have taken one of Godden's chances yesterday but he misses chances too, as any L1 striker will. I'd much, much rather have had him this season than not but I think we have far wider issues to work on than just having a goalscorer, and Godden's not produced substantially less so far this season than May has in a much weaker team. I don't think May would have more than 4 or 5 goals in our team this season based on what we've created so far.
    Lol, “Streaky”

    21/22: 23 goals
    22/23: 20 goals 
    23/24: 23 goals 

    If that’s your idea of “streaky” I would love to know what you class as consistent.


    Streaky as in goes through phases of scoring lots of goals and then phases of scoring not many at all in chunks. Last season for instance he didn't score for his first 3 games then scored 4 in his next three which led to a run where at one point he scored 11 goals in 10 games. He then scored 1 goal in his next 13 for us. Then he got 5 in his next 5, followed by 2 in his next 7, both of which came in one game. 11 goals in 10 games is unreal, but 1 in 13 is terrible. Overall for that period it's 12 in 23 which is a good record but he does go through periods where he's red hot and periods where he's useless in front of goal.

    In 22/23 for Cheltenham he got 1 goal in his first 7 games, got injured and came back to score 6 in his next 9, followed by 0 in 7, then 11 in 13. The season before that it was 3 in his first 17, 4 in 4, 0 in 7, a slightly insane 8 in 4, then 8 in 14 which is his most normal run. He's feast or famine across a season. This season you can't really draw too much from such a limited data set but 4 in his first 4 followed by 1 in his next 7 indicates it's probably going to happen again across the season. He'll likely get 20 goals again unless he's dropped for an extended period but it'll be in streaks across the season.
    I wish I could lol a post more than once.

    Don't worry because Ahadme is half the player Alfie is.

    The problem is he isn't the 11 goals in 10 games player. He is the 1 in 13 one.
    Cool story. Irrelevant as always though. We didn't replace May with Ahadme, we replaced him with Godden, which is why I've compared him with Godden. Ahadme was to try and fill the void we had next to the main striker with a physical player and so far it hasn't worked out, but in terms of a finisher we have Godden instead of May and their goal tallies are very similar at this point. Regardless though, what we were talking about is how many more goals another player would have scored in this team, and based on the number of chances we create it's unlikely it would be a lot more. I do wonder if people deliberately miss the point on here sometimes or if it's an institutional reading comprehension issue. Worth investigating probably. 
  • Saturday really is a big game for us, 3 points and a return of 8 from 4 tough games is good although could have been so much better, however, I have no belief that we can then go on a run with the next lot of fixtures coming up.
  • From this points tally in the past we’ve finished 3rd and 16th. So it’s still too early to tell.
    The season we finished third from this point, we won 8 of the next 11 making it 13 wins from 23.

    The season we finished sixteenth this point, we won 2 of the next 11 making it 7 wins from 23

    How many games we win between now and Wycombe on December 29 will give us a good indication for the second half of the season.
    The most likely outcome of course is that we split the difference: win 5 of the next 11 and finish 9th or 10th.






    As long as we are in the top six picture until the last couple of weekends of the season, that’s a big improvement on the last three years of shite. 

    Is it good enough for Charlton in the third division? Not at all. Would it still be a step in the right direction? 100%.
    Agree. But it's only a step in the right direction if we build on it. We would need to keep our manager and our best players, which we don't have a good track record for. 
  • agim said:
    Feel like Jones put all his eggs in one basket re this year's formation leaving only one real winger in the squad, two if you count Dixon. I also feel he gambled on quantity over quality in the forward department after loosing May and I think that's something that's backfired.

    I don't care what anyone says the board cannot be serious about promotion after letting a proven 20 goal a season striker leave. How can you sell your best asset and not replace him. 
    Agreed we should have forced the 32 year old striker who WANTED to move to a club that was going to almost quadruple his wages, let him live closer to his wife's family and probably win something this year. Can't see how on earth that could ever effect morale.
    My point is they let him leave without replacing him not that May wanted to go. If a player actively wants to leave they should go BUT not until we replace them which we haven't done. We held all the cards he still had a year on his contract but they clearly haven't got enough money to fund a 'promotion chasing side" without selling someone. Hence they cashed in. It's like selling a Ferrari for a clapped out Fiesta and then wondering why you've broken down on the A2 three times in a week

    You muppet
  • I have no idea of the direction this team is going in. We are harder to beat than last season for sure, but still the silly mistakes that have plagued us for a decade-plus continue, and half the time seem to cost a goal. The only time we seem to shoot from outside the area is when a player is clearly going to block it. Various players have looked great in various games, and then piss-poor in others. It must be very frustrating for the manager and the coaches - I know for sure they never tell any player "Pop out there and play like you have never seen a football this afternoon". Equally, there seems to be too much playing people out of their favoured position, which is down to the coaching staff (albeit often forced by the inevitable string of injuries). My tactical knowledge of football you could write on a postage stamp, but I think we need to play at least one big striker up front in this division.  
  • edited October 24
    agim said:
    agim said:
    Feel like Jones put all his eggs in one basket re this year's formation leaving only one real winger in the squad, two if you count Dixon. I also feel he gambled on quantity over quality in the forward department after loosing May and I think that's something that's backfired.

    I don't care what anyone says the board cannot be serious about promotion after letting a proven 20 goal a season striker leave. How can you sell your best asset and not replace him. 
    Agreed we should have forced the 32 year old striker who WANTED to move to a club that was going to almost quadruple his wages, let him live closer to his wife's family and probably win something this year. Can't see how on earth that could ever effect morale.
    My point is they let him leave without replacing him not that May wanted to go. If a player actively wants to leave they should go BUT not until we replace them which we haven't done. We held all the cards he still had a year on his contract but they clearly haven't got enough money to fund a 'promotion chasing side" without selling someone. Hence they cashed in. It's like selling a Ferrari for a clapped out Fiesta and then wondering why you've broken down on the A2 three times in a week

    You muppet
    Ok who could we replace him with realistically, who on earth could we replace May with taking account of the 850k we got for him. No we didn't hold all the cards as, yes he had a year on his contract but if he threw a tantrum it makes the atmosphere at the training ground poor, players would turn against management, fans argue amongst themselves.

    Also please don't call me a muppet I'm intimidated by your superior intellect now
  • In truth the Board have not nearly spent enough to just get that extra little bit of quality that we need. 

    I agree with a few on here that besides Brum anyone has got a chance this season to get out.

    However, Nathan, has had in the end to feed off scraps with his ex players and hope they can offer something. 

    However, I'm sure by now he's figured out that another 5 players are needed. 

    Several players really can't hack it and he clearly feels let down by them, that interview after Barnsley seemed to confirm that.

    If we are to make the playoffs as a minimum then its not happening with this bunch.

    I think top ten is the best we can hope for unless some proper money is spent but after the disappointment of Gas it also proves that it doesn't always work. 


  • agim said:
    agim said:
    Feel like Jones put all his eggs in one basket re this year's formation leaving only one real winger in the squad, two if you count Dixon. I also feel he gambled on quantity over quality in the forward department after loosing May and I think that's something that's backfired.

    I don't care what anyone says the board cannot be serious about promotion after letting a proven 20 goal a season striker leave. How can you sell your best asset and not replace him. 
    Agreed we should have forced the 32 year old striker who WANTED to move to a club that was going to almost quadruple his wages, let him live closer to his wife's family and probably win something this year. Can't see how on earth that could ever effect morale.
    My point is they let him leave without replacing him not that May wanted to go. If a player actively wants to leave they should go BUT not until we replace them which we haven't done. We held all the cards he still had a year on his contract but they clearly haven't got enough money to fund a 'promotion chasing side" without selling someone. Hence they cashed in. It's like selling a Ferrari for a clapped out Fiesta and then wondering why you've broken down on the A2 three times in a week

    You muppet
    Ok who could we replace him with realistically, who on earth could we replace May with taking account of the 850k we got for him. No we didn't hold all the cards as, yes he had a year on his contract but if he threw a tantrum it makes the atmosphere at the training ground poor, players would turn against management, fans argue amongst themselves.

    Also please don't call me a muppet I'm intimidated by your superior intellect now
    So we had absolutely no choice but to sell him incase he threw a tantrum? I can't believe what I'm reading. I don't know who we could of signed because that's not my job but the people who's job it is haven't got it right the stats speak for themselves making it even more of a ludicrous decision. Seems like you're happy for us to languish in League One for another year as long as we haven't upset Alf and his family. To be honest what's done is done the decision just baffles my mind. 

    Calm down Kermit
  • edited October 24
    Oh god are we at the "you want us to fail" stage of debate?
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  • Dazzler21 said:
    Milan said:
    We've scored a paltry 13 goals in 12 games. Had we kept May, one wonders, would some of these draws have resulted in 3 points? Yes, I know, boring, boring, boring, he was keen to leave, but we should have held him to his contract and made him run it down. Instead we're lumbered with a "strikeforce" that's never going to help us achieve anything beyond mid table mediocrity. That would almost be palatable if there was some exciting football on offer and a few goals to enjoy.
    May has scored 1 goal in his last 7 games, and that's for a team producing a hell of a lot more than we are. He's always been a streaky player with very good purple patches but I don't think he would be the difference between us winning and drawing many more games at the moment as we create so few chances. May has 5 goals in 14 games across approx 848 minutes this season, Godden has 4 goals in 12 games across approx 494 minutes. May has started 10 games, Godden 6. He might have taken one of Godden's chances yesterday but he misses chances too, as any L1 striker will. I'd much, much rather have had him this season than not but I think we have far wider issues to work on than just having a goalscorer, and Godden's not produced substantially less so far this season than May has in a much weaker team. I don't think May would have more than 4 or 5 goals in our team this season based on what we've created so far.
    Lol, “Streaky”

    21/22: 23 goals
    22/23: 20 goals 
    23/24: 23 goals 

    If that’s your idea of “streaky” I would love to know what you class as consistent.


    Streaky as in goes through phases of scoring lots of goals and then phases of scoring not many at all in chunks. Last season for instance he didn't score for his first 3 games then scored 4 in his next three which led to a run where at one point he scored 11 goals in 10 games. He then scored 1 goal in his next 13 for us. Then he got 5 in his next 5, followed by 2 in his next 7, both of which came in one game. 11 goals in 10 games is unreal, but 1 in 13 is terrible. Overall for that period it's 12 in 23 which is a good record but he does go through periods where he's red hot and periods where he's useless in front of goal.

    In 22/23 for Cheltenham he got 1 goal in his first 7 games, got injured and came back to score 6 in his next 9, followed by 0 in 7, then 11 in 13. The season before that it was 3 in his first 17, 4 in 4, 0 in 7, a slightly insane 8 in 4, then 8 in 14 which is his most normal run. He's feast or famine across a season. This season you can't really draw too much from such a limited data set but 4 in his first 4 followed by 1 in his next 7 indicates it's probably going to happen again across the season. He'll likely get 20 goals again unless he's dropped for an extended period but it'll be in streaks across the season.
    I wish I could lol a post more than once.

    Don't worry because Ahadme is half the player Alfie is.

    The problem is he isn't the 11 goals in 10 games player. He is the 1 in 13 one.
     Ahadme isn't 1 in 13, he's 1 in 8. Which is still not great.
    Wait until December. 
    Back-to-back hattricks. Can't wait! 
  • Saturday really is a big game for us, 3 points and a return of 8 from 4 tough games is good although could have been so much better, however, I have no belief that we can then go on a run with the next lot of fixtures coming up.
    We don't want Wrexham moving 9 points ahead of us either, if they win. With you on the run, don't believe we can be consistent enough over several games.
  • Oh god are we at the "you want us to fail" stage of debate?
    CL stages of grief innit 
  • A big concern for me is the 1 goal in the first half in 12 games. Suggests to me that Nathan is getting his set up wrong. So many times we are having to make HT changes because we've got the first half wrong. All it takes is one goal in the first half for the opposition and we are once again playing catch up
  • Oh god are we at the "you want us to fail" stage of debate?
    What I'm saying is I don't understand why anyone would back that decision under the premise that May would be upset and homesick. It's professional football this is what happens 

    They sold May because of his age and he's in the last year of his contract 

    They haven't replaced him and it's almost certainly why we will finish mid table.
  • edited October 24
    agim said:
    agim said:
    agim said:
    Feel like Jones put all his eggs in one basket re this year's formation leaving only one real winger in the squad, two if you count Dixon. I also feel he gambled on quantity over quality in the forward department after loosing May and I think that's something that's backfired.

    I don't care what anyone says the board cannot be serious about promotion after letting a proven 20 goal a season striker leave. How can you sell your best asset and not replace him. 
    Agreed we should have forced the 32 year old striker who WANTED to move to a club that was going to almost quadruple his wages, let him live closer to his wife's family and probably win something this year. Can't see how on earth that could ever effect morale.
    My point is they let him leave without replacing him not that May wanted to go. If a player actively wants to leave they should go BUT not until we replace them which we haven't done. We held all the cards he still had a year on his contract but they clearly haven't got enough money to fund a 'promotion chasing side" without selling someone. Hence they cashed in. It's like selling a Ferrari for a clapped out Fiesta and then wondering why you've broken down on the A2 three times in a week

    You muppet
    Ok who could we replace him with realistically, who on earth could we replace May with taking account of the 850k we got for him. No we didn't hold all the cards as, yes he had a year on his contract but if he threw a tantrum it makes the atmosphere at the training ground poor, players would turn against management, fans argue amongst themselves.

    Also please don't call me a muppet I'm intimidated by your superior intellect now
    So we had absolutely no choice but to sell him incase he threw a tantrum? I can't believe what I'm reading. I don't know who we could of signed because that's not my job but the people who's job it is haven't got it right the stats speak for themselves making it even more of a ludicrous decision. Seems like you're happy for us to languish in League One for another year as long as we haven't upset Alf and his family. To be honest what's done is done the decision just baffles my mind. 

    Calm down Kermit
    Why not ? i can imagine you believe lots of things you hear. Again you are just ignoring reality ! Obviously I'd rather have a happy May playing for Charlton, I (and most people that actually possess GCSE's) believe Charlton are a better team without having a player who doesn't want to play for us. Happy to languish in league one ? What a strawman argument (you probably don't know that term as I doubt its ever been mentioned in The Sun or on the back of a cereal box), of course I don't, neither do I really care if Alfie is happy, more than i care if anyone is happy. That said I believe we have a better chance of getting out of league one with players who actually want to be at the club.

    So your argument is "thEy NEEd tO SigN SoMEOne bUT DoNT ASk mE If ITs PoSSibLe To REPLace MAy or WhO We shoULD SiGN", what a brilliant point ! maybe we can use that with other issues effecting the world ?

    Stop it from raining ? How ? not my problem mate.

    Now repeat that back to me so I know you understood it.
  • People still buying the line that May moved for his family and not because Jones didn't fancy him and kept benching him towards the end of last season? 

    Club propaganda worked a treat. 
    Multiple things can be true at the same time 
  • Largely bored by watching us, will take it if it gets us out of league one but it's a pretty tough watch when we're off it 
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