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Too many managed stoppages being allowed during play:

 - Take players off the field for treatment and continue the play (or, adopt rugby rules by treating injured players on the field without stopping the game)

 - Stop pitch-side coaching and water sessions during the game

 - Subbed players to leave the field by the nearest touchline

 - Get official timekeepers to apply the exact extra time 

 - Match officials to be of the same calibre as those seen in rugby and outlaw players intimidation tactics to change decisions 

Any more ideas to improve the enjoyment and take back the game from the cheats before we lose it altogether?  
 
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  • edited October 20
    Drinks breaks should happen on the opposite side of the pitch to where the dugouts are... Managers can have their main team talks during HT

    Physios leave the water bottles in a convenient place, and the players are left to it, so no physio can then pass on instructions themselves

    If a player goes down with a head injury, keep them off the pitch for a minute, rather than 30secs.

    It'll be harsh on those with genuine issues, but equally makes almost certain that there is no concussion (the checks can be done within that minute, just off the pitch rather than on it) - But might stop the likes of Blackpool from faking them so much.

    If a player goes down, where the game needs to be stopped, but no physio is required, they too can go off the pitch for 30secs.

    Really is stupid that time wasting was so clamped down on last season, what with games regularly having 10+ minute injury time added at the end, only for that to suddenly disappear... Got to wonder if it was exposing Referee fitness further down the Leagues, with the officials themselves struggling with the added time EVERY week
  • In cricket you can be fined for slow over rates. maybe something similar with stoppages in football. 
  • Make the default position that an extra minute is added on for any injury stoppage. A one-minute stoppage adds two minutes of additional time. This would compensate for the loss of momentum and make time-wasters think twice. If the referee sees the incident as an emergency, he can overrule the extra minute. In cricket, for example in the T20 Blast, umpires add on time if an innings is delayed for a good reason, otherwise the offending team is punished.
  • If a keeper goes down injured in the second half they have to be subbed for the reserve keeper on the bench and double the time they spent injured is added as injury time.  Would stop them messing about in an instant.
  • David Dein made this proposal recently.

    Dein contends that football's current time-keeping system is flawed, as referees struggle to accurately account for stoppage time at the end of each half. He believes fans are shortchanged, with significant time lost to goal celebrations, VAR checks, injuries, and substitutions, resulting in far less than 90 minutes of actual play. To resolve this, Dein advocates for two real-time 30-minute halves, ensuring that every minute reflects active gameplay and enhancing the fairness of the match for both players and supporters.

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  • Just get referees who truly understand the game. Rather than tossers who haven’t got a clue but like to be the centre of attention.
  • good post, standing over the ball to prevent a free kick should= yellow card, ANY shirt pulling in the area should = penalty kick (all I can think of a t m) .. the trouble is that i m o football always has been a game full with blatant cheating, the game is better than it was, BUT (of course) there is still great room for improvement, just apply the rules
  • If a player is injured and physio comes on then player goes off for two minutes. If the player causing the injury is booked as a result of the tackle he also has to go off for 2 minutes.
    Bit clunky but may stop so many injury breaks. 

    Agree with the previous comment regarding retrospective suspensions for faking head injuries.
  • I don't understand why this has to a problem.

    Just implement the current laws of the game and add on extra time that corresponds to the time lost for the injury.

    Why the **** can't the dimwits who referee league one games do this?

    Just make them take numeracy tests. If they can't  do simple addition move them to a more suitable job.

    I've just finished watching a premier league game where there were NO injuries, a few standard substitutions and no noticeable time wasting. The ref added five minutes.

    Yesterday I watched a game with more injuries than I could count. A couple took over three minutes to resolve and we got a whopping seven minutes extra time.

    The actual solution is easy. After each game the clubs (or better still the league ) could publish the exact stoppage time during the game together with the extra time actually played.

    Indeed I think the government should make this the law for all games where the supporter pays to watch in the same way you have to show the weight of any food sold. Tongue in cheek obviously but when I pay for a football match I want to know what I'm getting!


  • edited October 20
    Just get referees who truly understand the game. Rather than tossers who haven’t got a clue but like to be the centre of attention.
    I agree that the standard of refereeing in this country, and particularly at our level, is not good but I'm not convinced that the reason is because of clueless attention-seeking tossers, no matter what I might have been shouting yesterday afternoon. I think the problems we have with refereeing are probably more structural than personal. 
  • edited October 20
    I think there has to be a rethink about how to approach substitutions and medical stoppages in the last 10-15 minutes of games.

    No more substitutions allowed after 80 minutes? Forced substitutions for players requiring on field treatment?

    I don’t think many managers would tell their goalkeeper to go down with an injury on 82 minutes if they were forced to substitute them before play restarts
  • It's supposed to be a 90 minute game. Therefore the overriding aim should be, to try to complete the game on 90 minutes where possible.

    Allowing so many stoppages, flies in the face of that basic objective.

    Of course more and more stoppages could be permitted (what next, toilet breaks), but do fans really want to be stuck in the Stadium for 120 minutes, watching players drink water, having a huddle and God knows what else?

    As mentioned above, it isn't just the time issue, far more importantly, it destroys momentum and with that, excitement for the paying customers.

    Things were so much better when there were only 2 subs, no water breaks, and player's were taken off the pitch in order to receive treatment, except in severe circumstances.
  • I think there has to be a rethink about how to approach substitutions and medical stoppages in the last 10-15 minutes of games.

    No more substitutions allowed after 80 minutes? Forced substitutions for players requiring on field treatment?

    I don’t think many managers would tell their goalkeeper to go down with an injury on 82 minutes if they were forced to substitute them before play restarts
    That would have been interesting yesterday with their keeper as they had used all their subs at that point 😀
  • Introduce the big clock and hooter system as in rugby. 
  • Introduce the big clock and hooter system as in rugby. 

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  • edited October 20
    iaitch said:
    David Dein made this proposal recently.

    Dein contends that football's current time-keeping system is flawed, as referees struggle to accurately account for stoppage time at the end of each half. He believes fans are shortchanged, with significant time lost to goal celebrations, VAR checks, injuries, and substitutions, resulting in far less than 90 minutes of actual play. To resolve this, Dein advocates for two real-time 30-minute halves, ensuring that every minute reflects active gameplay and enhancing the fairness of the match for both players and supporters.

    This completely ignores the reason that teams time waste. It isn’t to actually use up time, because they assume the wasted time will just be added on at the end. It’s to break up
    momentum in the game, particularly if the opposition are on top. All this “let’s just make it like rugby/NFL etc” would do nothing to solve the root cause.
  • I think there has to be a rethink about how to approach substitutions and medical stoppages in the last 10-15 minutes of games.

    No more substitutions allowed after 80 minutes? Forced substitutions for players requiring on field treatment?

    I don’t think many managers would tell their goalkeeper to go down with an injury on 82 minutes if they were forced to substitute them before play restarts
    That would have been interesting yesterday with their keeper as they had used all their subs at that point 😀
    Exactly - wouldn’t have gone down in the first place!

    It’d be a great way to see an occasional outfield player in goal as well. Don’t get that very often anymore…
  • If a player goes down holding there head, have the 4th official watch the footage back immediately to see if there's been any contact with the head, if there hasn't then book the player for simulation.
  • edited October 20
    Just stop the clock like they do in rugby. Whistle/siren goes on 90 mins, and the next time the ball goes out of play the game ends. 

    The timewasting/play acting is only successful in football because the correct amount of added time is never added. 
  • Shorter halves, stop the clock every time the play goes dead. Teams won't fake injuries as much as whilst it can still halt momentum a bit, it won't waste any time. 

    Ban touchline team talks midway through the half. When their keeper went down and then got treatment and all their players fucked off to the sidelines, I'd have loved to see a referee be bold enough to restart the game after a set amount of time, and if they aren't ready by then, well tough tits
  • An incident that happens all the time and really grips my shit. Saw it on Saturday, towards the end of the match, we were given a free kick and as our player placed it on the ground, two Stockport players immediately ran towards him and stood right in front of the ball. In my opinion, any opposition player that moves towards the ball (within 10 yds) should get booked. 

    As far as making subs to break up the game, why not allow subs to be made during live play? This can be done by the 4th official, so he can control when they can enter the pitch. This way they can do away with the ruling of how many sub breaks you can make in a match.
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