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Too many managed stoppages being allowed during play:

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  • Now why can we not time waste when we're 2-1 up?
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Now why can we not time waste when we're 2-1 up?
    A genuinely good question. We totally lost our heads. If someone had gone down and the players had chatted with Fleming we might have won that game
  • Surprised that there were no comments on here about the keeper going down injured yesterday, allowing all the outfield players to go over for a conference with the manager.

    Meanwhile the sub keeper wasn't even warming up and the goalie played the rest of the match no problem.
  • Surprised that there were no comments on here about the keeper going down injured yesterday, allowing all the outfield players to go over for a conference with the manager.

    Meanwhile the sub keeper wasn't even warming up and the goalie played the rest of the match no problem.
    Charlton TV were laughing about it and saying teams aren't even subtle about it now, and officials don't seem to care.  
  • Surprised that there were no comments on here about the keeper going down injured yesterday, allowing all the outfield players to go over for a conference with the manager.

    Meanwhile the sub keeper wasn't even warming up and the goalie played the rest of the match no problem.
    Charlton TV were laughing about it and saying teams aren't even subtle about it now, and officials don't seem to care.  
    Not a surprise. During lockdown they were so one sided where ref decisions were concerned, it was riduclous to listen to.
  • I emailed the EFL to register my disgust. 

    I guess it could have been worded better, I admit it was a bit of a knee jerk reaction.  I wasn't expecting a reply, but surprisingly got one - although unsurprisingly it pretty much followed the party line.  Please see my email below with the EFL answer in italics. 

    Hi,

    I'm a long term Charlton fan and have become ever more concerned at the amount of cheating I witness at the Valley.  

    My main bone of contention is the contrived 'Time Out Injury'.   It is a game wrecking, momentum stopping,  time wasting tactic that is now so common-place that I believe the game is in danger of  losing  its existing fans.  Not only that (and I've witnessed this) new young fans reaching for their ipads and twitching uncontrollably in their seats through utter boredom.  How on earth can the game be expanded and promoted while this behaviour is allowed to continue?

    At a recent game V Blackpool (with them ahead of course) the final 30 minutes were littered with Blackpool players clutching their heads in an absolute abuse of a thoroughly sensible rule.   They went on to win the match, but ultimately it is the game that suffers and it is their profession that is put on the line with fans leaving in droves.  At our most recent game against Stockport County, County had a player sent off.  This action was enough to cause their goalkeeper to fall over and demand treatment (there is video evidence of this). It also caused an exodus of County players to storm across to their bench (see below).  


    Maybe a simple rule change could be introduced to stop this in-match coaching session at least?   Something has to be done to protect the profession, because as a spectacle, League One football is becoming a frustratingly, boring non-event.

     

    Regards Raith,


    Thank you for your e-mail, we appreciate you getting in touch.

    Whilst the EFL are not always able to comment on specific match officials or decisions, it is relevant to clarify that Professional Game Match Officials (PGMOL) is responsible for the selection, training and coaching of match officials across the professional game.

    Under the laws of the game the match official is the timekeeper any matter relating to perceived time-wasting or gamesmanship is one for the referee to deal with as they see appropriate at the time. It is at their (and their fellow officials’) discretion to take action against any players/management during the match itself. It would then be at their discretion how much time to add on at the end of each half.

    Clubs are encouraged to provide constructive feedback on match officials and dialogue is encouraged with PGMOL. The EFL Referees’ Manager works with their group in a bid to constantly improve standards and support the development of match officials and they are subject to a range of training measures to encourage continuous development and improvement.

     To clarify, the laws of the game are at the jurisdiction of the International Football Association Board (IFAB) and therefore, for any recommendations on changes to them, we would recommend you get in touch with IFAB directly, details for which you can find on their website here.

     

    Thank you for contacting the EFL.

     

    Kind Regards

     

    Danny


  • I emailed the EFL to register my disgust. 

    I guess it could have been worded better, I admit it was a bit of a knee jerk reaction.  I wasn't expecting a reply, but surprisingly got one - although unsurprisingly it pretty much followed the party line.  Please see my email below with the EFL answer in italics. 

    Hi,

    I'm a long term Charlton fan and have become ever more concerned at the amount of cheating I witness at the Valley.  

    My main bone of contention is the contrived 'Time Out Injury'.   It is a game wrecking, momentum stopping,  time wasting tactic that is now so common-place that I believe the game is in danger of  losing  its existing fans.  Not only that (and I've witnessed this) new young fans reaching for their ipads and twitching uncontrollably in their seats through utter boredom.  How on earth can the game be expanded and promoted while this behaviour is allowed to continue?

    At a recent game V Blackpool (with them ahead of course) the final 30 minutes were littered with Blackpool players clutching their heads in an absolute abuse of a thoroughly sensible rule.   They went on to win the match, but ultimately it is the game that suffers and it is their profession that is put on the line with fans leaving in droves.  At our most recent game against Stockport County, County had a player sent off.  This action was enough to cause their goalkeeper to fall over and demand treatment (there is video evidence of this). It also caused an exodus of County players to storm across to their bench (see below).  


    Maybe a simple rule change could be introduced to stop this in-match coaching session at least?   Something has to be done to protect the profession, because as a spectacle, League One football is becoming a frustratingly, boring non-event.

     

    Regards Raith,


    Thank you for your e-mail, we appreciate you getting in touch.

    Whilst the EFL are not always able to comment on specific match officials or decisions, it is relevant to clarify that Professional Game Match Officials (PGMOL) is responsible for the selection, training and coaching of match officials across the professional game.

    Under the laws of the game the match official is the timekeeper any matter relating to perceived time-wasting or gamesmanship is one for the referee to deal with as they see appropriate at the time. It is at their (and their fellow officials’) discretion to take action against any players/management during the match itself. It would then be at their discretion how much time to add on at the end of each half.

    Clubs are encouraged to provide constructive feedback on match officials and dialogue is encouraged with PGMOL. The EFL Referees’ Manager works with their group in a bid to constantly improve standards and support the development of match officials and they are subject to a range of training measures to encourage continuous development and improvement.

     To clarify, the laws of the game are at the jurisdiction of the International Football Association Board (IFAB) and therefore, for any recommendations on changes to them, we would recommend you get in touch with IFAB directly, details for which you can find on their website here.

     

    Thank you for contacting the EFL.

     

    Kind Regards

     

    Danny


    Good email to the EFL clearly pointing out fans` concerns regarding unfair match management with two very clear recent examples.


    Needless-to-say the EFL simply side-steps any responsibility and refers you to the IFAB. Why can`t they refer it and pursue it or is that too much trouble? What is their function if it does not include the future protection of the game? How can they just "wash their hands" of such major concerns?

    It has become such a very obvious tactic seemingly now embedded in the game at all levels and virtually ignored by referees in most cases. This "cheating" has grown at an alarming rate and is now being adopted by an increasing number of clubs effectively killing our national game. I agree with you that fans will vote with their feet eventually if strong action is not taken quickly to stamp out this and the other identifiable forms of abuse we can all clearly see. 

    What is the purpose and value of the EFL if it just another political body with no real powers or genuine interest to concern itself with protecting the game??
     
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