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I am going to say it!! Yes I am, Nathan Jones......................
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SouthWest_Addicks said:Leuth said:I've been fairly adamant he has to go for a few weeks, but yesterday would be the wrong game to fire him after. The players got a deserved clap off at the end. It was a horrible game and we play terrible football, but...it would feel wrong, this time, for me.
Win the next two and we'll review
After the shambles of the Appleton appointment, I don’t think the senior leadership will want to navigate the hassle and embarrassment of going through another hiring process.
There is still a lot of delusion amongst fans about how poor we really are. We had some flukey wins at the start of the season without which we would be in the relegation zone already. Our play and our results in the past 2 months have been dreadful. The 'positive signs' in the second half on Saturday came because Mansfield dropped back in the hope of getting a point, leaving the midfield open. And we still could not score!
If Jones cannot fashion a win before Jan 1 we will definitely be in the bottom 4. Then he will be sacked for sure. Whatever the price it will still be less than the cost of relegation.12 -
letthegoodtimesroll said:Scoham said:Stolen from Facebook which stole it from Twitter.1
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SouthWest_Addicks said:Leuth said:I've been fairly adamant he has to go for a few weeks, but yesterday would be the wrong game to fire him after. The players got a deserved clap off at the end. It was a horrible game and we play terrible football, but...it would feel wrong, this time, for me.
Win the next two and we'll review
After the shambles of the Appleton appointment, I don’t think the senior leadership will want to navigate the hassle and embarrassment of going through another hiring process.
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Thing is, it's not just us on here that know he's chatting complete bobbins.
The players will see it as well.
..Never bodes well when you know your gaffer is a complete crack pot.10 -
carly burn said:Thing is, it's not just us on here that know he's chatting complete bobbins.
The players will see it as well.
..Never bodes well when you know your gaffer is a complete crack pot.
Most of if not all of these players are young enough to have come through academies who played a possession style. We were doing it over 15 years ago when Solly, Shelvey etc were coming through. It won’t be what many of them are used to, and I wouldn’t think many have years of experience playing defensive route one football in the EFL either.3 -
follett said:Des Buckingham left Oxford. Would probably be a semi optimistic realistic replacement if Jones were to leave this month ..
Probably wishful thinking though.1 -
carly burn said:Thing is, it's not just us on here that know he's chatting complete bobbins.
The players will see it as well.
..Never bodes well when you know your gaffer is a complete crack pot.
I never get too hung up on what a manager says in interviews - they’re pretty much contractually obliged to give those and just have to walk the line so they can’t say anything too controversial. The only time they are ever really worth listening to is when a manager is right at the end of their tenure and start slagging off individual players. N Jones doesn’t seem to be at that point (although slagging off our pitch was an interesting move, not something you often hear from the home team manager!).
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Braziliance said:follett said:Des Buckingham left Oxford. Would probably be a semi optimistic realistic replacement if Jones were to leave this month ..
Probably wishful thinking though.0 -
NabySarr said:Braziliance said:follett said:Des Buckingham left Oxford. Would probably be a semi optimistic realistic replacement if Jones were to leave this month ..
Probably wishful thinking though.
Best pressing team in the league, awesome in the cups & we even beat Pompey’s second string in the summer.
If it wasn’t for our right back being injured & a shite pitch, we’d be top 6.12 -
carly burn said:Thing is, it's not just us on here that know he's chatting complete bobbins.
The players will see it as well.
..Never bodes well when you know your gaffer is a complete crack pot.0 - Sponsored links:
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The reason Jones didn’t get the Millwall job is he insisted on a clause in his contract that he could talk to PL clubs if they came in for him. He’s got the same clause with us.The owners can’t afford to pay him off - there’s no money - he’s unsackable as things stand.I was told the above from a mate who is a bit ITK with us.5
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ElfsborgAddick said:The reason Jones didn’t get the Millwall job is he insisted on a clause in his contract that he could talk to PL clubs if they came in for him. He’s got the same clause with us.The owners can’t afford to pay him off - there’s no money - he’s unsackable as things stand.I was told the above from a mate who is a bit ITK with us.0
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ElfsborgAddick said:The reason Jones didn’t get the Millwall job is he insisted on a clause in his contract that he could talk to PL clubs if they came in for him. He’s got the same clause with us.The owners can’t afford to pay him off - there’s no money - he’s unsackable as things stand.I was told the above from a mate who is a bit ITK with us.12
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ElfsborgAddick said:The reason Jones didn’t get the Millwall job is he insisted on a clause in his contract that he could talk to PL clubs if they came in for him. He’s got the same clause with us.The owners can’t afford to pay him off - there’s no money - he’s unsackable as things stand.I was told the above from a mate who is a bit ITK with us.1
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L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:ElfsborgAddick said:The reason Jones didn’t get the Millwall job is he insisted on a clause in his contract that he could talk to PL clubs if they came in for him. He’s got the same clause with us.The owners can’t afford to pay him off - there’s no money - he’s unsackable as things stand.I was told the above from a mate who is a bit ITK with us.Other than the above, it's all I was told. Personally, I'd imagine trying to ship out on loan and bring in on loan.As an aside, bringing players into teams when you are struggling can be a nightmare. I have always thought it is best to recruit when you are playing well.0
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redbuttle said:I have a feeling that he won't be sacked. Don't know why, apart from the cost.1
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NabySarr said:Braziliance said:follett said:Des Buckingham left Oxford. Would probably be a semi optimistic realistic replacement if Jones were to leave this month ..
Probably wishful thinking though.
But then I don't see how he ended up at Oxford. Strange one.1 -
Braziliance said:NabySarr said:Braziliance said:follett said:Des Buckingham left Oxford. Would probably be a semi optimistic realistic replacement if Jones were to leave this month ..
Probably wishful thinking though.
But then I don't see how he ended up at Oxford. Strange one.1 -
se9addick said:ElfsborgAddick said:The reason Jones didn’t get the Millwall job is he insisted on a clause in his contract that he could talk to PL clubs if they came in for him. He’s got the same clause with us.The owners can’t afford to pay him off - there’s no money - he’s unsackable as things stand.I was told the above from a mate who is a bit ITK with us.5
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ElfsborgAddick said:The reason Jones didn’t get the Millwall job is he insisted on a clause in his contract that he could talk to PL clubs if they came in for him. He’s got the same clause with us.The owners can’t afford to pay him off - there’s no money - he’s unsackable as things stand.I was told the above from a mate who is a bit ITK with us.
Here's hoping
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Nothing you've said there would surprise me at all.
Jones having a fit to bursting ego.
And the owners really having no plans to shell out.
The whole thing is a sham I tell ya.
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I don't think we are the best pressing team. We seem to do it sometimes but not all the time. Teams seem to have more time and less pressure on the ball against us than the other way round. Stats can be meaningless. Not always but your eyes will tell you that we are nothing special when it comes to pressing.6
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MuttleyCAFC said:I don't think we are the best pressing team. We seem to do it sometimes but not all the time. Teams seem to have more time and less pressure on the ball against us than the other way round. Stats can be meaningless. Not always but your eyes will tell you that we are nothing special when it comes to pressing.10
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Did all our recent managers do an online fan Q&A at some point? I definitely remember Holden doing one or two, not sure about Appleton.0
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At least he's finally acknowledging our deficiencies.
"We tried to create", "the fans want to see more chances, and we are working religiously on that".
That's the first time that he's gone near the subject, so that, together with our slightly improved style on Saturday, might be a suggestion that the message is finally getting through to him, whether it was from the fans, or the board.
Going forward, we as a club, need to decide whether he gets the January window to bring in the players he needs to create those chances, or to pull the plug, and let another manager start all over again.
TC did well creating chances on Saturday, but we cannot be wholly reliant on just one player.
I'm thinking that Jones should be allowed another couple of games, to see if we can build on Saturday's slightly improved showing.
Working our way out of this horrible spell, with a solid foundation in place and a couple of incoming creative players, could be a good outcome going forward.
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follett said:Des Buckingham left Oxford. Would probably be a semi optimistic realistic replacement if Jones were to leave this month ..2
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queensland_addick said:At least he's finally acknowledging our deficiencies.
"We tried to create", "the fans want to see more chances, and we are working religiously on that".
That's the first time that he's gone near the subject, so that, together with our slightly improved style on Saturday, might be a suggestion that the message is finally getting through to him, whether it was from the fans, or the board.
Going forward, we as a club, need to decide whether he gets the January window to bring in the players he needs to create those chances, or to pull the plug, and let another manager start all over again.
TC did well creating chances on Saturday, but we cannot be wholly reliant on just one player.
I'm thinking that Jones should be allowed another couple of games, to see if we can build on Saturday's slightly improved showing.
Working our way out of this horrible spell, with a solid foundation in place and a couple of incoming creative players, could be a good outcome going forward.2 -
ElfsborgAddick said:The reason Jones didn’t get the Millwall job is he insisted on a clause in his contract that he could talk to PL clubs if they came in for him. He’s got the same clause with us.The owners can’t afford to pay him off - there’s no money - he’s unsackable as things stand.I was told the above from a mate who is a bit ITK with us.0
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DubaiCAFC said:JohnnyH2 said:DubaiCAFC said:Uboat said:DubaiCAFC said:We have hardly had a chance.. just lumping it. It is a disgrace. And all down to Jones and the way the team is set up.Piss poor! Fuming
it was better under Appleton.We need outside the box appointment, and give them time.. Jones isn’t the answer for moving this club forward.
As CM was only delighted to tell us all when things were going well under Jones, he was the SMT choice before Appleton
There are certain fans, whatever this ownership does, will always be anti them... But from what I have seen, they have made a lot of positive moves around the club, and from the outset, they said they wouldn't just buy their way through the leagues!! Jones has let them down badly so far, and will continue to do so, unless he changes his stubborn ways..
I really want it to work for Jones, but his style of play is woeful.4 -
Garrymanilow said:follett said:Des Buckingham left Oxford. Would probably be a semi optimistic realistic replacement if Jones were to leave this month ..4
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ElfsborgAddick said:The reason Jones didn’t get the Millwall job is he insisted on a clause in his contract that he could talk to PL clubs if they came in for him. He’s got the same clause with us.The owners can’t afford to pay him off - there’s no money - he’s unsackable as things stand.I was told the above from a mate who is a bit ITK with us.2