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  • I spoke to Alfie a couple of weeks ago.  He’s excited at probably promotion but pissed off that he’s not playing much.  

    I reckon he’d have been happier staying with us 
  • sam3110 said:
    A lot of talk about feeling sorry for him that he's not scoring now etc. 

    He was here for 1 season, and whilst he scored a lot of goals in that season we finished closer to the bottom than the top.

    Some people paint him up as this modern day Charlton legend, which is just bizarre

    Godden is a better fit for our current team, and whilst we have a small chance of playing championship football next season, I reckon despite Birmingham going up, Alfie May will be in League 1 again regardless
    A lot of talk ? Really ? Where abouts cause not on here
  • se9addick said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    MrOneLung said:
    Bailey said:
    Scoham said:

    I like Nathan Jones but he is a petty, petty man
    Why? Go back and have a look at some of the posts on here. The majority of the posts are declaring that it was a mistake to let May go, it's gone very quiet now Godden has gone in front of May in the goal scoring charts. I've criticised Jones on numerous occasions but he's won the argument Gary, quite simply he was right and if he wants to crow about it then he has the right. 
    How can you say quite simply he was right ?
    May might have been on 20 goals with us by now. 
    Well Alfie chose not to be here to prove he could so....
    No thats all lies, apart from the video where he lists all his reasons for CHOOSING to leave, what evidence does anyone have that he wasn't forced out ? He clearly was being threatened off camera.
    Look, with all due respect, you are an interesting and articulate poster but you only joined a year ago. This forum was set up 18 years ago, and a lot of current posters were posting back then. Several of them have indicated as best they can without breaking confidences that NJ made it clear that he didn't rate Alfie, and this long before the season ended. And the supporting evidence for all to see is the record of selection over that period. Alfie was subbed and dropped altogether to an extent which obviously baffled even Curbs. Like any professional and not just in football, if a new boss comes along and shows he doesn't rate you (and by the nature of of football, it shows to the entire national football public) you easily find reasons to leave, not least when its obvious that employers elsewhere rate you enough to give you a pay rise. And when it comes to the video you keep banging on about, that's just the imperative of a modern professional footballer to do the right thing. What on earth would be the point, after securing a move which doubles your salary, of making a video wherein you say "You know, I wasn't planning on moving, but the manager obviously doesn't rate me". ?

    There are coherent arguments being put by others e.g Garrymanilow just above that Jones had a system in mind form the start and Alfie doesn't fit that well. Increasingly such an argument is being borne out by results (whereas back in early December it bloody well wasn't). Your insistence on pretending that Alfie went because Alfie wanted to go is not just misguided - it actually diminishes Jones achievement in sticking to a system when it looked like a dud, and indeed the SMT and owners in not panicking, as many owners nowadays would have done.
    Apologies I only read "Look, with all due respect, you are an interesting and articulate poster", I agree.

    All jokes aside my response to your point about the video why make the video at all ? Also you have put the things I've previously said, it was clear Jones had a system in place and May didn't fit that. I agree, my point is at the people who act as if Jones forced May out of the club as if Jones would of played May every minute to the end of the season and Birmingham came in May would all of a sudden go "nah i'm okay here".

    Your point about people being in the know and not breaking confidence, have you considered those with dissenting opinions are doing the very same ? 
    You’re re-writing history here a little bit. 

    1) May didn’t actually initially opt to move to Birmingham for a massive pay day, he was on his way to Huddersfield before Brum gazumped them;
    2) Alfie didn’t force a move, nor do I really think he’s the type to down tools if he doesn’t get his way. The club accepted an offer from Huddersfield, presumably with Jones at least part of that decision making process. 
    Well I'm not rewriting history because I haven't said either of those things. All I've said is that I don't believe he was forced out and he ultimately wanted to go.
    As you know two separate things can both be correct.
    You're simply playing with words to troll willing participants like me.
    He wasn't forced out, but he knew Jones didn't "fancy him" because he had been told.
    So May knew he was unlikely to be in the first team.
    He knew Charlton were happy to sell him to fund alternative players.
    Charlton accepted Huddersfield's final offer and May was told he could leave.
    Brum gazumped Huddersfield after all parties had agreed the deal.
    What do you mean trolling you literally said im re-writing history and used those two arguments as evidence when I've said neither ? I literally have already wrote what you say Jones not fancying him ?

    I'm really not sure what your point is ?

    I literally did not say you were rewriting history, that was someone else.
    Yes apologies CE, serves me right for not reading properly
  • se9addick said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    MrOneLung said:
    Bailey said:
    Scoham said:

    I like Nathan Jones but he is a petty, petty man
    Why? Go back and have a look at some of the posts on here. The majority of the posts are declaring that it was a mistake to let May go, it's gone very quiet now Godden has gone in front of May in the goal scoring charts. I've criticised Jones on numerous occasions but he's won the argument Gary, quite simply he was right and if he wants to crow about it then he has the right. 
    How can you say quite simply he was right ?
    May might have been on 20 goals with us by now. 
    Well Alfie chose not to be here to prove he could so....
    No thats all lies, apart from the video where he lists all his reasons for CHOOSING to leave, what evidence does anyone have that he wasn't forced out ? He clearly was being threatened off camera.
    Look, with all due respect, you are an interesting and articulate poster but you only joined a year ago. This forum was set up 18 years ago, and a lot of current posters were posting back then. Several of them have indicated as best they can without breaking confidences that NJ made it clear that he didn't rate Alfie, and this long before the season ended. And the supporting evidence for all to see is the record of selection over that period. Alfie was subbed and dropped altogether to an extent which obviously baffled even Curbs. Like any professional and not just in football, if a new boss comes along and shows he doesn't rate you (and by the nature of of football, it shows to the entire national football public) you easily find reasons to leave, not least when its obvious that employers elsewhere rate you enough to give you a pay rise. And when it comes to the video you keep banging on about, that's just the imperative of a modern professional footballer to do the right thing. What on earth would be the point, after securing a move which doubles your salary, of making a video wherein you say "You know, I wasn't planning on moving, but the manager obviously doesn't rate me". ?

    There are coherent arguments being put by others e.g Garrymanilow just above that Jones had a system in mind form the start and Alfie doesn't fit that well. Increasingly such an argument is being borne out by results (whereas back in early December it bloody well wasn't). Your insistence on pretending that Alfie went because Alfie wanted to go is not just misguided - it actually diminishes Jones achievement in sticking to a system when it looked like a dud, and indeed the SMT and owners in not panicking, as many owners nowadays would have done.
    Apologies I only read "Look, with all due respect, you are an interesting and articulate poster", I agree.

    All jokes aside my response to your point about the video why make the video at all ? Also you have put the things I've previously said, it was clear Jones had a system in place and May didn't fit that. I agree, my point is at the people who act as if Jones forced May out of the club as if Jones would of played May every minute to the end of the season and Birmingham came in May would all of a sudden go "nah i'm okay here".

    Your point about people being in the know and not breaking confidence, have you considered those with dissenting opinions are doing the very same ? 
    You’re re-writing history here a little bit. 

    1) May didn’t actually initially opt to move to Birmingham for a massive pay day, he was on his way to Huddersfield before Brum gazumped them;
    2) Alfie didn’t force a move, nor do I really think he’s the type to down tools if he doesn’t get his way. The club accepted an offer from Huddersfield, presumably with Jones at least part of that decision making process. 
    Well I'm not rewriting history because I haven't said either of those things. All I've said is that I don't believe he was forced out and he ultimately wanted to go.
    As you know two separate things can both be correct.
    You're simply playing with words to troll willing participants like me.
    He wasn't forced out, but he knew Jones didn't "fancy him" because he had been told.
    So May knew he was unlikely to be in the first team.
    He knew Charlton were happy to sell him to fund alternative players.
    Charlton accepted Huddersfield's final offer and May was told he could leave.
    Brum gazumped Huddersfield after all parties had agreed the deal.
    What do you mean trolling you literally said im re-writing history and used those two arguments as evidence when I've said neither ? I literally have already wrote what you say Jones not fancying him ?

    I'm really not sure what your point is ?

    I literally did not say you were rewriting history, that was someone else.
    Yes apologies CE, serves me right for not reading properly
    That'll teach you to mess with @Covered End
  • Who would swap Godden for May now if offered the chance? I wouldn't in all honesty. Maybe one or two would but I think most wouldn't.
    Personally no I wouldn't, thats not to denigrate May as a player but its completely obvious to anyone who is even remotely unbiased we are a better team this season without May. Yes thats not because of May per se but we don't know how he would do in this team hence obviously I'd pick Gooden.

    I will say there is some revisionism from some fans about May who wasn't just a goal scorer but also very good in general play too. that said it's getting a bit bizarre the obsession with Alfie, Alfie wanted to leave and he got his wish. He literally recorded a video listing all the reasons he wanted to go and yet some of our fans refuse to believe, now though regardless what happens I feel Jones has been proven right in his decision to let May go as we are in fact a much MUCH better team without him and him moving has suited everyone.

    The deliberate obtuseness some fans show is the reason I'm always hesitant to celebrate signing locl players like May or Inniss as it starts to cloud fans judgement because they have some kind of personal link to the players.
    I've not seen or heard of this would you be able to post a copy of the video ? Many Thanks
  • Who would swap Godden for May now if offered the chance? I wouldn't in all honesty. Maybe one or two would but I think most wouldn't.
    Personally no I wouldn't, thats not to denigrate May as a player but its completely obvious to anyone who is even remotely unbiased we are a better team this season without May. Yes thats not because of May per se but we don't know how he would do in this team hence obviously I'd pick Gooden.

    I will say there is some revisionism from some fans about May who wasn't just a goal scorer but also very good in general play too. that said it's getting a bit bizarre the obsession with Alfie, Alfie wanted to leave and he got his wish. He literally recorded a video listing all the reasons he wanted to go and yet some of our fans refuse to believe, now though regardless what happens I feel Jones has been proven right in his decision to let May go as we are in fact a much MUCH better team without him and him moving has suited everyone.

    The deliberate obtuseness some fans show is the reason I'm always hesitant to celebrate signing locl players like May or Inniss as it starts to cloud fans judgement because they have some kind of personal link to the players.
    I've not seen or heard of this would you be able to post a copy of the video ? Many Thanks
    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/alfie-may-joins-birmingham-city
  • Who would swap Godden for May now if offered the chance? I wouldn't in all honesty. Maybe one or two would but I think most wouldn't.
    Personally no I wouldn't, thats not to denigrate May as a player but its completely obvious to anyone who is even remotely unbiased we are a better team this season without May. Yes thats not because of May per se but we don't know how he would do in this team hence obviously I'd pick Gooden.

    I will say there is some revisionism from some fans about May who wasn't just a goal scorer but also very good in general play too. that said it's getting a bit bizarre the obsession with Alfie, Alfie wanted to leave and he got his wish. He literally recorded a video listing all the reasons he wanted to go and yet some of our fans refuse to believe, now though regardless what happens I feel Jones has been proven right in his decision to let May go as we are in fact a much MUCH better team without him and him moving has suited everyone.

    The deliberate obtuseness some fans show is the reason I'm always hesitant to celebrate signing locl players like May or Inniss as it starts to cloud fans judgement because they have some kind of personal link to the players.
    I've not seen or heard of this would you be able to post a copy of the video ? Many Thanks
    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/alfie-may-joins-birmingham-city
    Thanks Large, much appreciated. 
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  • se9addick said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    MrOneLung said:
    Bailey said:
    Scoham said:

    I like Nathan Jones but he is a petty, petty man
    Why? Go back and have a look at some of the posts on here. The majority of the posts are declaring that it was a mistake to let May go, it's gone very quiet now Godden has gone in front of May in the goal scoring charts. I've criticised Jones on numerous occasions but he's won the argument Gary, quite simply he was right and if he wants to crow about it then he has the right. 
    How can you say quite simply he was right ?
    May might have been on 20 goals with us by now. 
    Well Alfie chose not to be here to prove he could so....
    No thats all lies, apart from the video where he lists all his reasons for CHOOSING to leave, what evidence does anyone have that he wasn't forced out ? He clearly was being threatened off camera.
    Look, with all due respect, you are an interesting and articulate poster but you only joined a year ago. This forum was set up 18 years ago, and a lot of current posters were posting back then. Several of them have indicated as best they can without breaking confidences that NJ made it clear that he didn't rate Alfie, and this long before the season ended. And the supporting evidence for all to see is the record of selection over that period. Alfie was subbed and dropped altogether to an extent which obviously baffled even Curbs. Like any professional and not just in football, if a new boss comes along and shows he doesn't rate you (and by the nature of of football, it shows to the entire national football public) you easily find reasons to leave, not least when its obvious that employers elsewhere rate you enough to give you a pay rise. And when it comes to the video you keep banging on about, that's just the imperative of a modern professional footballer to do the right thing. What on earth would be the point, after securing a move which doubles your salary, of making a video wherein you say "You know, I wasn't planning on moving, but the manager obviously doesn't rate me". ?

    There are coherent arguments being put by others e.g Garrymanilow just above that Jones had a system in mind form the start and Alfie doesn't fit that well. Increasingly such an argument is being borne out by results (whereas back in early December it bloody well wasn't). Your insistence on pretending that Alfie went because Alfie wanted to go is not just misguided - it actually diminishes Jones achievement in sticking to a system when it looked like a dud, and indeed the SMT and owners in not panicking, as many owners nowadays would have done.
    Apologies I only read "Look, with all due respect, you are an interesting and articulate poster", I agree.

    All jokes aside my response to your point about the video why make the video at all ? Also you have put the things I've previously said, it was clear Jones had a system in place and May didn't fit that. I agree, my point is at the people who act as if Jones forced May out of the club as if Jones would of played May every minute to the end of the season and Birmingham came in May would all of a sudden go "nah i'm okay here".

    Your point about people being in the know and not breaking confidence, have you considered those with dissenting opinions are doing the very same ? 
    You’re re-writing history here a little bit. 

    1) May didn’t actually initially opt to move to Birmingham for a massive pay day, he was on his way to Huddersfield before Brum gazumped them;
    2) Alfie didn’t force a move, nor do I really think he’s the type to down tools if he doesn’t get his way. The club accepted an offer from Huddersfield, presumably with Jones at least part of that decision making process. 
    Hang on, I thought he wanted to be near his family and there were no schools for his kid in London??
  • edited March 19
    Swisdom said:
    I spoke to Alfie a couple of weeks ago.  He’s excited at probably promotion but pissed off that he’s not playing much.  

    I reckon he’d have been happier staying with us 

    I heard he wanted a move because his neighbours were making his life hell and he was really unhappy

    Not sure what is going on here. 
    I spoke with him on Whatsup and he said a couple of Charlton fans had been stalking him recently. One looked quite familiar and he thought was an old nosey neighbour from his time in SE London. Alfie always acted friendly, but after trying to distance himself politely he couldn't. The neighbour kept making excuses to chat when Alfie was mowing his front lawn, he decided to leg it the wrong side of the Watford Gap.
    The other fan kept asking him about this previous neighbour and if this was the reason for his move to Brum. After the last run in with the over friendly fan in London Alfie decided to agree with him just to stop the conversation in it's tracks.
    I really feel for the bloke. Had a torrid time here, had to make a heart to heart video when he left to explain why, and all this time he has been concerned for his own welfare due to over zealous Charlton fans.
    I've no idea if things are better that side of the Gap, I didn't want to pry.
    I wished him well, and he said he still loves Charlton and misses us all.


    🥴

  • Still think Alfie is a better all round player…can play #10 or out wide…very good technically 
  • Swisdom said:
    I spoke to Alfie a couple of weeks ago.  He’s excited at probably promotion but pissed off that he’s not playing much.  

    I reckon he’d have been happier staying with us 

    I heard he wanted a move because his neighbours were making his life hell and he was really unhappy

    Not sure what is going on here. 
    I spoke with him on Whatsup and he said a couple of Charlton fans had been stalking him recently. One looked quite familiar and he thought was an old nosey neighbour from his time in SE London. Alfie always acted friendly, but after trying to distance himself politely he couldn't. The neighbour kept making excuses to chat when Alfie was mowing his front lawn, he decided to leg it the wrong side of the Watford Gap.
    The other fan kept asking him about this previous neighbour and if this was the reason for his move to Brum. After the last run in with the over friendly fan in London Alfie decided to agree with him just to stop the conversation in it's tracks.
    I really feel for the bloke. Had a torrid time here, had to make a heart to heart video when he left to explain why, and all this time he has been concerned for his own welfare due to over zealous Charlton fans.
    I've no idea if things are better than side of the Gap, I didn't want to pry.
    I wished him well, and he said he still loves Charlton and misses us all.


    🥴

    Not sure if I’m being whooshed here - but for the avoidance of doubt this is definitely not me 😳


  • Swisdom said:
    Swisdom said:
    I spoke to Alfie a couple of weeks ago.  He’s excited at probably promotion but pissed off that he’s not playing much.  

    I reckon he’d have been happier staying with us 

    I heard he wanted a move because his neighbours were making his life hell and he was really unhappy

    Not sure what is going on here. 
    I spoke with him on Whatsup and he said a couple of Charlton fans had been stalking him recently. One looked quite familiar and he thought was an old nosey neighbour from his time in SE London. Alfie always acted friendly, but after trying to distance himself politely he couldn't. The neighbour kept making excuses to chat when Alfie was mowing his front lawn, he decided to leg it the wrong side of the Watford Gap.
    The other fan kept asking him about this previous neighbour and if this was the reason for his move to Brum. After the last run in with the over friendly fan in London Alfie decided to agree with him just to stop the conversation in it's tracks.
    I really feel for the bloke. Had a torrid time here, had to make a heart to heart video when he left to explain why, and all this time he has been concerned for his own welfare due to over zealous Charlton fans.
    I've no idea if things are better than side of the Gap, I didn't want to pry.
    I wished him well, and he said he still loves Charlton and misses us all.


    🥴

    Not sure if I’m being whooshed here - but for the avoidance of doubt this is definitely not me 😳



    Just my attempt at some humour
  • edited March 19
    Swisdom said:
    Swisdom said:
    Swisdom said:
    I spoke to Alfie a couple of weeks ago.  He’s excited at probably promotion but pissed off that he’s not playing much.  

    I reckon he’d have been happier staying with us 

    I heard he wanted a move because his neighbours were making his life hell and he was really unhappy

    Not sure what is going on here. 
    I spoke with him on Whatsup and he said a couple of Charlton fans had been stalking him recently. One looked quite familiar and he thought was an old nosey neighbour from his time in SE London. Alfie always acted friendly, but after trying to distance himself politely he couldn't. The neighbour kept making excuses to chat when Alfie was mowing his front lawn, he decided to leg it the wrong side of the Watford Gap.
    The other fan kept asking him about this previous neighbour and if this was the reason for his move to Brum. After the last run in with the over friendly fan in London Alfie decided to agree with him just to stop the conversation in it's tracks.
    I really feel for the bloke. Had a torrid time here, had to make a heart to heart video when he left to explain why, and all this time he has been concerned for his own welfare due to over zealous Charlton fans.
    I've no idea if things are better than side of the Gap, I didn't want to pry.
    I wished him well, and he said he still loves Charlton and misses us all.


    🥴

    Not sure if I’m being whooshed here - but for the avoidance of doubt this is definitely not me 😳



    Just my attempt at some humour
    Ok, I was just clarifying so people who don't know me don't think am a proper weirdo.  Obviously those that doiknow I am but that's ok :-)

    It's just that ex player threads make me laugh generally. Considering how many ex players we have had at Charlton you would think we would all be used to it by now, so was trying to make light of it.
    Still I'm sure we will see Alfie next year when we play Brum in the Championship. Unless they sell him on of course
  • sam3110 said:
    A lot of talk about feeling sorry for him that he's not scoring now etc. 

    He was here for 1 season, and whilst he scored a lot of goals in that season we finished closer to the bottom than the top.

    Some people paint him up as this modern day Charlton legend, which is just bizarre

    Godden is a better fit for our current team, and whilst we have a small chance of playing championship football next season, I reckon despite Birmingham going up, Alfie May will be in League 1 again regardless
    I'm sure Alfie won't be at league one next season mainly due to the fact he has 2/3 years left on his contract and no team is going to pay him what he is on now. So unless Birmingham swallow a large chunk of his salary just to get him out the door (which would seem odd as he doesn't strike me as the type to cause an issue) I'm sure he will stay.
  • sam3110 said:
    A lot of talk about feeling sorry for him that he's not scoring now etc. 

    He was here for 1 season, and whilst he scored a lot of goals in that season we finished closer to the bottom than the top.

    Some people paint him up as this modern day Charlton legend, which is just bizarre

    Godden is a better fit for our current team, and whilst we have a small chance of playing championship football next season, I reckon despite Birmingham going up, Alfie May will be in League 1 again regardless
    I'm sure Alfie won't be at league one next season mainly due to the fact he has 2/3 years left on his contract and no team is going to pay him what he is on now. So unless Birmingham swallow a large chunk of his salary just to get him out the door (which would seem odd as he doesn't strike me as the type to cause an issue) I'm sure he will stay.
    Think he'll be out on loan in L1. Birmingham will sign more strikers in the summer and he won't even make their bench in the Championship which he won't be happy about at all
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  • fenaddick said:
    sam3110 said:
    A lot of talk about feeling sorry for him that he's not scoring now etc. 

    He was here for 1 season, and whilst he scored a lot of goals in that season we finished closer to the bottom than the top.

    Some people paint him up as this modern day Charlton legend, which is just bizarre

    Godden is a better fit for our current team, and whilst we have a small chance of playing championship football next season, I reckon despite Birmingham going up, Alfie May will be in League 1 again regardless
    I'm sure Alfie won't be at league one next season mainly due to the fact he has 2/3 years left on his contract and no team is going to pay him what he is on now. So unless Birmingham swallow a large chunk of his salary just to get him out the door (which would seem odd as he doesn't strike me as the type to cause an issue) I'm sure he will stay.
    Think he'll be out on loan in L1. Birmingham will sign more strikers in the summer and he won't even make their bench in the Championship which he won't be happy about at all
    100%. Can see him going to Barnsley or Rotherham.
  • fenaddick said:
    sam3110 said:
    A lot of talk about feeling sorry for him that he's not scoring now etc. 

    He was here for 1 season, and whilst he scored a lot of goals in that season we finished closer to the bottom than the top.

    Some people paint him up as this modern day Charlton legend, which is just bizarre

    Godden is a better fit for our current team, and whilst we have a small chance of playing championship football next season, I reckon despite Birmingham going up, Alfie May will be in League 1 again regardless
    I'm sure Alfie won't be at league one next season mainly due to the fact he has 2/3 years left on his contract and no team is going to pay him what he is on now. So unless Birmingham swallow a large chunk of his salary just to get him out the door (which would seem odd as he doesn't strike me as the type to cause an issue) I'm sure he will stay.
    Think he'll be out on loan in L1. Birmingham will sign more strikers in the summer and he won't even make their bench in the Championship which he won't be happy about at all
    I'm sure he wont but I dont believe for a second he will give up the money. He 32/33this is his last big contract in all reality, he will do what lots of players do and sit it out. I wouldnt blame him at all either.
  • fenaddick said:
    sam3110 said:
    A lot of talk about feeling sorry for him that he's not scoring now etc. 

    He was here for 1 season, and whilst he scored a lot of goals in that season we finished closer to the bottom than the top.

    Some people paint him up as this modern day Charlton legend, which is just bizarre

    Godden is a better fit for our current team, and whilst we have a small chance of playing championship football next season, I reckon despite Birmingham going up, Alfie May will be in League 1 again regardless
    I'm sure Alfie won't be at league one next season mainly due to the fact he has 2/3 years left on his contract and no team is going to pay him what he is on now. So unless Birmingham swallow a large chunk of his salary just to get him out the door (which would seem odd as he doesn't strike me as the type to cause an issue) I'm sure he will stay.
    Think he'll be out on loan in L1. Birmingham will sign more strikers in the summer and he won't even make their bench in the Championship which he won't be happy about at all
    I'm sure he wont but I dont believe for a second he will give up the money. He 32/33this is his last big contract in all reality, he will do what lots of players do and sit it out. I wouldnt blame him at all either.
    100%
  • arny23394 said:
    fenaddick said:
    sam3110 said:
    A lot of talk about feeling sorry for him that he's not scoring now etc. 

    He was here for 1 season, and whilst he scored a lot of goals in that season we finished closer to the bottom than the top.

    Some people paint him up as this modern day Charlton legend, which is just bizarre

    Godden is a better fit for our current team, and whilst we have a small chance of playing championship football next season, I reckon despite Birmingham going up, Alfie May will be in League 1 again regardless
    I'm sure Alfie won't be at league one next season mainly due to the fact he has 2/3 years left on his contract and no team is going to pay him what he is on now. So unless Birmingham swallow a large chunk of his salary just to get him out the door (which would seem odd as he doesn't strike me as the type to cause an issue) I'm sure he will stay.
    Think he'll be out on loan in L1. Birmingham will sign more strikers in the summer and he won't even make their bench in the Championship which he won't be happy about at all
    I'm sure he wont but I dont believe for a second he will give up the money. He 32/33this is his last big contract in all reality, he will do what lots of players do and sit it out. I wouldnt blame him at all either.
    If he is out on loan he wouldn’t be giving up any money. 
    Thats not always the case but yes your right which means that somebody is still paying him, now there are no clubs at league one level that will pay him what he is on now so they would seek to split the wages with his parent club and Birmingham may decide they want him gone completely off the wage bill. If he refuses to accept less Birmingham (like lots of clubs have previously) may tell him if he doesn't accept an offer else where they will stick him in the reserves or training with the youth team.
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