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Wasps to share the Valley!

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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    Horse of the year show next 😱
    Nay !
    Yes, I know we had too many Donkeys show up on our old pitch !
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    If they bring in folding we would have to consider it. I don't know what sort of crowds they attract, and I would hate what they do to the pitch with their extra markings but we could use the cash. If that happens we may have to look again to moving the women's team, a crowd of under 600 for the weekend WSL game at £6-10 isn't going to be much of a money spinner.
  • Hal1x said:
    If they bring in folding we would have to consider it. I don't know what sort of crowds they attract, and I would hate what they do to the pitch with their extra markings but we could use the cash. If that happens we may have to look again to moving the women's team, a crowd of under 600 for the weekend WSL game at £6-10 isn't going to be much of a money spinner.
    As said, moving the women's team out would mean paying back the £750k grant from the FA so not going to happen
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,973
    Sounds like fantasy to me.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,769
    Being poo poo’d on the Wasps side.


  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,857
    How many would even travel from their Coventry heartlands.....
  • Being poo poo’d on the Wasps side.


    A non-denial denial there.
  • Stig said:
    It makes maximum sense financially to get full use of the ground. The limiter to that has always been the pitch and what it can take but if that is resolved it has a logic to it for me. I suppose the next question is can the new improved pitch take more football and Rugby? We haven't seen it over the course of the season yet though of course there is a lot of information about similar pitches. 
    Given Wasps recent history i'd advise we get the money up front.
    We??
    That will be going straight in the Belgians sky rocket!
    Don't think so. 

    We lease the Valley from RD so any income from using it EG weddings, meetings, rugger etc comes to the football club owners.
    I really hope you're right, but there are leases and leases. I might be catastrophizing here, but who knows what conditions old yellow tooth has put into the lease? 
    If the club doesn’t make what it considers to be a good financial deal yet has to pay a percentage to Duchatelet then why would it bother. 
  • Being poo poo’d on the Wasps side.


    A non-denial denial there.
    So in other words the idea has been floated but is in its early stages and in may flourish but it could equally not. 
  • The Valley is realistically too large for Wasps, they'd need to be in the Premiership to get decent crowds.

    In Wales Ospreys are planning to move out of Swansea's ground to their own smaller ground, as it's too large for them.
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  • The Valley is realistically too large for Wasps, they'd need to be in the Premiership to get decent crowds.

    In Wales Ospreys are planning to move out of Swansea's ground to their own smaller ground, as it's too large for them.
    The Valley is realistically too large for Charlton at the moment !! 
  • Wasps need somewhere to play and if their long term goal is locating to Kent then The Valley does make good sense initially. There’s always Gillingham of course but that neck of the woods is hardly Rugby territory and The Valley has far better transport links than that shithole. Lots of hurdles to jump I’d imagine before it’s even at the negotiation stage. 
  • buckshee
    buckshee Posts: 7,867
    I made a comment a few months back when the parking restrictions came in and the rumours about Wasps new stadium came out that I had concerns that with us not owning our stadium that it wouldn’t surprise me if there had been conversations regarding us sharing a new stadium and moving there. 

    No I see this it make me wonder again. 
  • buckshee said:
    I made a comment a few months back when the parking restrictions came in and the rumours about Wasps new stadium came out that I had concerns that with us not owning our stadium that it wouldn’t surprise me if there had been conversations regarding us sharing a new stadium and moving there. 

    No I see this it make me wonder again. 
    2+2 = 1000000000000
  • YTS1978
    YTS1978 Posts: 1,703
    More importantly will Steve Brown be signing for the new Wasps?!
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    Not the first time we have shared our pitch with a rugby team and that was no success 
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    ross1 said:
    Not the first time we have shared our pitch with a rugby team and that was no success 
    League not Union 
  • So if wasps move in does that mean the pigeons have to go?  :D
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,230
    edited September 2024
    Once wasps are in can we move them out or will they have some sort of conservation/protection order on them?
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,230
    so how will they manage first team, women and wasps
    First team and woman should be easy to manage, as for the wasps just spray a can of Raid on them and they're fucked.
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  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited September 2024
    so how will they manage first team, women and wasps
    The women will flap at the wasps and scream while the first team will tell them to calm down and start swinging rolled up newspapers, I would imagine.
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,978
    so how will they manage first team, women and wasps
    I don't think Nathan will be expected to manage all three. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,338
    A few random thoughts 

    1. Who would Wasps do a deal with, Charlton or the other of the ground? 

    2. Does Charlton's lease on The Valley give them the right to prevent other businesses also leasing the property? 

    3. If the lease that Wasps negotiates with the owner means that Charlton get a pro rata discount on the rent, that would be a pretty positive outcome, especially if that discount were put towards investing in the (football) team. 

    4. What would the reaction be on here if it were announced that Wasps (and a useful amount of cash) were moving in to the Den? 

    5. I thought The Valley was in London, not Kent. 
  • Is rugby really that big in Kent? 
  • Chizz said:
    A few random thoughts 

    1. Who would Wasps do a deal with, Charlton or the other of the ground? 

    2. Does Charlton's lease on The Valley give them the right to prevent other businesses also leasing the property? 

    3. If the lease that Wasps negotiates with the owner means that Charlton get a pro rata discount on the rent, that would be a pretty positive outcome, especially if that discount were put towards investing in the (football) team. 

    4. What would the reaction be on here if it were announced that Wasps (and a useful amount of cash) were moving in to the Den? 

    5. I thought The Valley was in London, not Kent. 
    Guess they could revert back to being called London wasps again. 
  • I think Coventry City fans would tell us not to touch this mob with a bargepole, especially when the lease on the Valley will be up for renewal some time. Cov got booted out of their own leased stadium by Wasps and only managed to get back when they went spectacularly bust.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    edited September 2024
    Charlton Athletic shouldn't share the valley with a Rugby team as we would be thrown a curveball.
  • Charlton Athletic shouldn't share the valley with a Rugby team as we would be thrown a real curveball.
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  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,707
    Realistic chances of Wasps resuming professional rugby in the foreseeable are tiny
    IF they shared the Valley at least the extra lines could help out the dismal myopic ignoramus linespeople with their offside guesswork - might help out a few dunderheaded players too
    Even if Wasps are looking for a nest in 2025, I'm hoping CAFC will be a Championship side and not needing the money so badly.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,481
    Much as I’d like to help out Wasps, there’s no way I could condone “anything whatsoever” that would be detrimental to our success……no matter how minuscule that might be.