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POST-MATCH THREAD: Wigan Athletic v Charlton Athletic: Saturday 10th August 2024: KO 17:30

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  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,866
    seth plum said:
    seth plum said:
    There was nothing negative about our display yesterday.

    Wigan are credible, the vast majority of their acquisitions are from the premier league. 

    Presumably we had to travel up on Friday and twiddle thumbs waiting for that stupid kick off time and we kicked the wrong way for them so they got the glare of the sun second half after we rode the glare out. 
    Godden wasn’t available in order to add a bit more of an option, absolutely no player hid, Alex Mitchell was (in my opinion) thrown a bit by his early head injury (note to medical staff, a great big white head bandage looks so much better than what Mitchell was given yesterday), the substitutions were excellently timed and Nathan Jones held his nerve to see what Wigan would do with their substitutions first. The goal from Jones was beautifully taken, the tackle from Ramsey was Costaesque, the interventions from Fraser were superb and we saw his long throw for the first time, every player made a good contribution as long as they were on the pitch (you paying attention Fraser?), and our away support was terrific.
    So what are the downsides?
    None apart from the stupid yellow cards for Anderson and Nathan Jones.
    How can there be any other downsides with a clean sheet away win first game of the season and three lovely points?
    Fraser !!!!!!!!
    Has he been transferred out?
    You might want to read what you've written again.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,469
    Think the strikers played well considering what they were given. 

    The 'problem' is that the midfield (other than one Coventry ball to the right wing) doesn't look like they're capable of creating chances for our strikers. It'll be mostly on the wing-backs putting crosses in, or balls over the top from the defense. 

    Yesterday it didn't matter because our job was more defensively focused but in a home game trying to unlock the opposition it'll be interesting to see if we still line up with that midfield 3. 
  • Good match against some tough opponents who gave us a test, game was won by the defence today, and congrats to Jones taking his goal like a forward...on we go...
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Bailey said:
    Bailey said:
    Bailey said:
    That was an excellent performance in a very tight game, either side could have won it but we looked more certain at the back with Jones and Mitchell outstanding. The last ditch header away by Edwards and the saving tackle by Ramsey were highlights but the two centre backs won everything in the air. Midfield worked hard but didn't seem to want to push on, maybe because of Campbell not being able to find space. 
    I don't think Wigan could have won it. On the very rare occasion they got a sight of goal there was a defender there to deal with it. Aside from a deflected shot wide we dealt with everything before they even got the shot away. Wigan were tidy and had a lot of the ball but that back 5 weren't letting them near it today
    You are forgetting Ramsey's saving tackle and Edwards saving diving header. Both sides created little, Jones finish is great but it comes from a mistake by there defender in misjudging the bounce, we didn't make that sort of mistake and probably deserved to win it on that stat alone. 
    I'm not, I covered them when I said that we dealt with everything before they got the shot away. That's the point, it's all very well Wigan trying to create but we were so organised and had such good shape that we didn't even let those chances register as shots on goal. It's not like we lived dangerously, even in their best passages Wigan found themselves unable to trouble Mannion. You can't win if you can't even get a shot away.
    I think you are right but the same could be said about us and we both agree that it was the bounce that the defender misread that led to the goal, I think we both agree it was probably our defence that won us the day, and you haven't heard that phrase too often in the last few years. 
    Don’t think it bounced did it?
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,344
    Very long day out. Drive to Wigan instead of taking the train as I have on previous visits, got to see a very different part of Wigan and it was good.

    Great to see so many familiar faces up there.

    Great support of the players (anyone hear on the stream the specific chanting in the 1st half?)

    Away kit just reminds me of a Oxford League Cup 1986 winners

    Awful game, but on that 90 mins we looked better at the back, hopefully we have considerablely in that area from last season

    Good day out with family and friends


  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,350
    Not your usual CBs finish was it? Jones has excellent technical ability for this level. 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Oops. Got Fraser and Edwards mixed up.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,504
    Think the strikers played well considering what they were given. 

    The 'problem' is that the midfield (other than one Coventry ball to the right wing) doesn't look like they're capable of creating chances for our strikers. It'll be mostly on the wing-backs putting crosses in, or balls over the top from the defense. 

    Yesterday it didn't matter because our job was more defensively focused but in a home game trying to unlock the opposition it'll be interesting to see if we still line up with that midfield 3. 
    The ball from Coventry to Ramsey behind the defence was top drawer .. 
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,355
    Nice to be not sitting here on a Sunday pretending i do not give a shit that Charlton have plumbed new depths of ineptitude and crapness.

    Hey, this new upbeat attitude suits me!
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,866
    seth plum said:
    Oops. Got Fraser and Edwards mixed up.
    You're welcome.
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  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,866
    Chunes said:
    Not your usual CBs finish was it? Jones has excellent technical ability for this level. 
    So, what you're saying is, if he gets a sniff around the box he's the sort of guy who knows how to slot it home and score?
  • Leuth said:
    Gribbo said:
    Gracious and pleasant. Very likeable, this one. Hope Wigan have a good season
    Thought it was Pep for a minute!



  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 11,803
    Chunes said:
    So... where do we find N Jones post match interviews now there is no Charlton TV? And when?
    Club's official Twitter. Up now.
    Also on the Charlton App. 
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,964
    I think Wigan are a top ten outfit, especially when you consider how many good players they were missing yesterday. I also thought they wouldn't have conceded the goal if Aimson was still on the pitch. Very good player.

    The defence was good and Mannion appeared to be a calming influence. Edwards definitely my man of the match.

    We were competitive throughout but very uninspiring going forward. We need Godden to have a productive season. 

    At last an improvement in form after 4 barren years. Hopefully we are now moving forward as a club and at the very least punching our weight.
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,911
    As we move through the season it will be interesting to see how the squad develops. We need a couple of additions and hopefully we are able to reduce our numbers to enable a couple to come in before the window closes. I’m not overly fussed about a GK but I do think we need more creative intent in midfield and controversial I know but I would be looking for another striker. I don’t think TC will be consistent enough despite his endeavour. Chucks is always one stretch away from injury and although we have Miles to come back let’s be honest there is a question mark against his ability to stay injury free 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    Encouraging comments by NJ noticing lack of creativity and fluidity, and how that needs to change when we have to break teams down. Finally a manager that sees what we see.
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    edited August 2024
    Long day but worth it coming back with 3 points. 

    A good solid start, successful teams grind out results like that by being solid and disciplined and I think what we see yesterday is a good sign and starting point. 

    Our pressing in the first half caused some mistakes from Wigan and seemed to panic them. Nearly lead to a goal for docherty and think we will see more of that this year. 

    The forwards worked hard and the centre backs of Wigan would have known they was in a game and it may well have contributed to the mistake that lead to the goal as Ahadme was relentless with his presence which may go unnoticed but his work grinds  defenders down and means you have to concentrate all game. 

    Edward’s was excellent but also thought Coventry played really well and will be important this year. 
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    Forgot to say I caught the match ball very comfortably late on , when Wigan ballooned it over in to the away end after we went 0-1 up, first time I’d touched a match ball since Shrewsbury away 1986 !
    I calmed  everyone down and wasted a couple of seconds before deliberately throwing the ball away from our keeper thinking I was very cool but the ball boy knew I was a prick football fan and was already throwing the other ball to the keeper , fuck you multi ball system 
    I think you protest too much and just did a girlie throw in the wrong direction, the ball boy knew you were not up to the job :p
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,001
    One thing out of yesterday…was Paul Hart there? Haven’t seen him all pre season.
    I asked the question a few weeks back and no one responded so assumed he was but couldn’t see him again yesterday. 
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  • Shrew
    Shrew Posts: 5,749
    I can’t let this thread continue without a quick mention to The Fish Guy, such a naff performance but shoal..ly  worthy of cult status. Anyone have any footage to share ?
  • timken
    timken Posts: 1,002
    any footage of full time celebrations?
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,469

  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,272
    Valley11 said:
    One thing out of yesterday…was Paul Hart there? Haven’t seen him all pre season.
    I asked the question a few weeks back and no one responded so assumed he was but couldn’t see him again yesterday. 
    Does he owe you money as well?
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,357
    tested by an adequate Wigan team, got the 3 .. the team/squad will only get more together and we will have more difficult games ahead .. very good start before then usual noisy away fans, I wish I had the energy of our drummer

    A WORD OF WARNING .. on the way to the ground from the Red Robin pub where myself and friend parked up (free and no bother) I saw the arrest of a young Addick fan. He had had a few, was acting the goat BUT no way was he a proper nuisance, his pals had taken him away from the bit of bother he was involved in in the pub's beer garden and were trying to talk him down.. THEN two Greater Manchester Policemen got involved and were (I M O) right over the top, at least the younger of the two and (again in my opinion) rather egged on by his older colleague.
    The youngster in question was slammed onto an asphalt car park floor, cuffed and hauled to his feet by the younger cop and when a couple of his friends tried to if not interfere, express concerns for his treatment, the young cop drew and unleashed his baton and screamed GET BACK GET BACK
    I know all us football fans are Right Wing Fascist Racist Thugs, BUT !!!

    The warning is I suspect that after the recent riots, football fans could be fair game for any 'officials' looking for some come back after being the butts of hurled bricks, abuse, assaults etc and that the Police will be given some (or a lot of leeway) when policing football fans, and the courts will fully back them up
    I though carefully before typing this, however, it needs telling

    I hope the young Addick was released sharpish and that he was not too badly bruised, also that his mates learnt a lesson. The fine line between high jinks and minor hooliganism is now MUCH finer it seems

  • tested by an adequate Wigan team, got the 3 .. the team/squad will only get more together and we will have more difficult games ahead .. very good start before then usual noisy away fans, I wish I had the energy of our drummer

    A WORD OF WARNING .. on the way to the ground from the Red Robin pub where myself and friend parked up (free and no bother) I saw the arrest of a young Addick fan. He had had a few, was acting the goat BUT no way was he a proper nuisance, his pals had taken him away from the bit of bother he was involved in in the pub's beer garden and were trying to talk him down.. THEN two Greater Manchester Policemen got involved and were (I M O) right over the top, at least the younger of the two and (again in my opinion) rather egged on by his older colleague.
    The youngster in question was slammed onto an asphalt car park floor, cuffed and hauled to his feet by the younger cop and when a couple of his friends tried to if not interfere, express concerns for his treatment, the young cop drew and unleashed his baton and screamed GET BACK GET BACK
    I know all us football fans are Right Wing Fascist Racist Thugs, BUT !!!

    The warning is I suspect that after the recent riots, football fans could be fair game for any 'officials' looking for some come back after being the butts of hurled bricks, abuse, assaults etc and that the Police will be given some (or a lot of leeway) when policing football fans, and the courts will fully back them up
    I though carefully before typing this, however, it needs telling

    I hope the young Addick was released sharpish and that he was not too badly bruised, also that his mates learnt a lesson. The fine line between high jinks and minor hooliganism is now MUCH finer it seems

    It’s a pity that one of his mates didn’t get footage of the incident. Sounds over the top policing if it’s as stated.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,357
    tested by an adequate Wigan team, got the 3 .. the team/squad will only get more together and we will have more difficult games ahead .. very good start before then usual noisy away fans, I wish I had the energy of our drummer

    A WORD OF WARNING .. on the way to the ground from the Red Robin pub where myself and friend parked up (free and no bother) I saw the arrest of a young Addick fan. He had had a few, was acting the goat BUT no way was he a proper nuisance, his pals had taken him away from the bit of bother he was involved in in the pub's beer garden and were trying to talk him down.. THEN two Greater Manchester Policemen got involved and were (I M O) right over the top, at least the younger of the two and (again in my opinion) rather egged on by his older colleague.
    The youngster in question was slammed onto an asphalt car park floor, cuffed and hauled to his feet by the younger cop and when a couple of his friends tried to if not interfere, express concerns for his treatment, the young cop drew and unleashed his baton and screamed GET BACK GET BACK
    I know all us football fans are Right Wing Fascist Racist Thugs, BUT !!!

    The warning is I suspect that after the recent riots, football fans could be fair game for any 'officials' looking for some come back after being the butts of hurled bricks, abuse, assaults etc and that the Police will be given some (or a lot of leeway) when policing football fans, and the courts will fully back them up
    I though carefully before typing this, however, it needs telling

    I hope the young Addick was released sharpish and that he was not too badly bruised, also that his mates learnt a lesson. The fine line between high jinks and minor hooliganism is now MUCH finer it seems

    It’s a pity that one of his mates didn’t get footage of the incident. Sounds over the top policing if it’s as stated.
    my friend and his missus got their phones out, however it was all over (except for the kid being marched away) before they could get 'filming', it all happened VERY quickly
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,683
    tested by an adequate Wigan team, got the 3 .. the team/squad will only get more together and we will have more difficult games ahead .. very good start before then usual noisy away fans, I wish I had the energy of our drummer

    A WORD OF WARNING .. on the way to the ground from the Red Robin pub where myself and friend parked up (free and no bother) I saw the arrest of a young Addick fan. He had had a few, was acting the goat BUT no way was he a proper nuisance, his pals had taken him away from the bit of bother he was involved in in the pub's beer garden and were trying to talk him down.. THEN two Greater Manchester Policemen got involved and were (I M O) right over the top, at least the younger of the two and (again in my opinion) rather egged on by his older colleague.
    The youngster in question was slammed onto an asphalt car park floor, cuffed and hauled to his feet by the younger cop and when a couple of his friends tried to if not interfere, express concerns for his treatment, the young cop drew and unleashed his baton and screamed GET BACK GET BACK
    I know all us football fans are Right Wing Fascist Racist Thugs, BUT !!!

    The warning is I suspect that after the recent riots, football fans could be fair game for any 'officials' looking for some come back after being the butts of hurled bricks, abuse, assaults etc and that the Police will be given some (or a lot of leeway) when policing football fans, and the courts will fully back them up
    I though carefully before typing this, however, it needs telling

    I hope the young Addick was released sharpish and that he was not too badly bruised, also that his mates learnt a lesson. The fine line between high jinks and minor hooliganism is now MUCH finer it seems

    Two tier policing 
    What a shock
  • 801912601
    801912601 Posts: 621
    Got to be happy with 3 points away and a clean sheet - hopefully positive signs for the future. 
    Be interesting to see the line up for Tuesday - expecting multiple changes as 3 points against Orient has to be the priority. Looking at those that didn’t play yesterday we can still pick a strong team against Brum and these being good enough to get us into the second round

  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    I really thought there should have been a penalty for a reckless challenge through Anderson. Strangely it didn't make any highlights.