Fuck us season ticket payers who have kids and a life at least they’ll have £400k more for us not turning up
They make the mistake of thinking that the spectacle is only the match. Remember watching during Covid. If everyone refused to go in protest of these new kick off times (a big IF - I know this won’t happen but just imagine) then they would have to lower prices dramatically to persuade people to go. Without the crowd, the spectacle is ruined. People want to watch an event and without spectators there is no event.
Who in the world wants to watch Charlton vs Orient at 12.30 on the 2nd weekend of the season. It's not quite as bad as Sky showing the reverse fixture on NYE at a stupid time during Powells promotion season
Who in the world wants to watch Charlton vs Orient at 12.30 on the 2nd weekend of the season. It's not quite as bad as Sky showing the reverse fixture on NYE at a stupid time during Powells promotion season
Who in the world wants to watch Charlton vs Orient at 12.30 on the 2nd weekend of the season. It's not quite as bad as Sky showing the reverse fixture on NYE at a stupid time during Powells promotion season
I do wonder if there is an appetite to watch L1 and L2 games amongst the wider public, when in reality the only people who want to watch the matches are fans of the teams in question, which is why club streaming services were so successful.
Reality is the majority of people watching us Vs Orient will be people with an interest to the clubs involved. There's multiple games on at that time so unlikely most people will choose to watch us.
Other games on at 12:30:
Ipswich Vs Liverpool Derby Vs Middlesbrough Portsmouth Vs Luton West Brom Vs Leeds Shrewsbury Vs Peterborough Bromley Vs Wimbledon Carlisle Vs Barrow
Probably not many people in ’the wider public’ will actually watch it but it will be on in pubs, and in people's homes while they make lunch or get home in the evening and have a cup of tea. People will take notice when a big incident happens but not really be watching. After all, Sky subscribers have bigger and better matches on the same day to sit and watch properly.
If it were on for us terrestrial TV peasants starved of live league football then it may be different.
Probably not many people in ’the wider public’ will actually watch it but it will be on in pubs, and in people's homes while they make lunch or get home in the evening and have a cup of tea. People will take notice when a big incident happens but not really be watching. After all, Sky subscribers have bigger and better matches on the same day to sit and watch properly.
If it were on for us terrestrial TV peasants starved of live league football then it may be different.
Looking at the list of games at the same time we're playing Orient how many pubs will be showing our game over those?
So there are bigger games on at the same time as us? What’s the point then? I don’t get it. It’s not like having a blockbuster v another film at the cinema. Some, including myself, might be put off by the big budget film. How does that work with football?
So there are bigger games on at the same time as us? What’s the point then? I don’t get it. It’s not like having a blockbuster v another film at the cinema. Some, including myself, might be put off by the big budget film. How does that work with football?
I know I'm in the minority here but it's good for people like me who don't live near the club so can't get to many games. I do understand that it inconveniences fans. No idea if it's a net positive or negative in general but it is handy for me.
So there are bigger games on at the same time as us? What’s the point then? I don’t get it. It’s not like having a blockbuster v another film at the cinema. Some, including myself, might be put off by the big budget film. How does that work with football?
I know I'm in the minority here but it's good for people like me who don't live near the club so can't get to many games. I do understand that it inconveniences fans. No idea if it's a net positive or negative in general but it is handy for me.
Yes but we’re talking about the general public. An audience of the supporters of the two teams involved surely wouldn't make it cost effective. Hence my question above.
So there are bigger games on at the same time as us? What’s the point then? I don’t get it. It’s not like having a blockbuster v another film at the cinema. Some, including myself, might be put off by the big budget film. How does that work with football?
I know I'm in the minority here but it's good for people like me who don't live near the club so can't get to many games. I do understand that it inconveniences fans. No idea if it's a net positive or negative in general but it is handy for me.
Yes but we’re talking about the general public. An audience of the supporters of the two teams involved surely wouldn't make it cost effective. Hence my question above.
Think it probably does across the full 3 divisions. Costs themselves will be relatively low and they can sell sponsorship off the back of it.
So there are bigger games on at the same time as us? What’s the point then? I don’t get it. It’s not like having a blockbuster v another film at the cinema. Some, including myself, might be put off by the big budget film. How does that work with football?
I know I'm in the minority here but it's good for people like me who don't live near the club so can't get to many games. I do understand that it inconveniences fans. No idea if it's a net positive or negative in general but it is handy for me.
Which was catered for perfectly by the club streaming services, which would provide a bespoke service for their own fans, with their own commentators.
Who in the world wants to watch Charlton vs Orient at 12.30 on the 2nd weekend of the season. It's not quite as bad as Sky showing the reverse fixture on NYE at a stupid time during Powells promotion season
TBF, they’ll be lucky to Kick Off at 12.30 that day if Orient are coming by coach and don’t plan an alternative route that doesn’t include the Dartford tunnel
So there are bigger games on at the same time as us? What’s the point then? I don’t get it. It’s not like having a blockbuster v another film at the cinema. Some, including myself, might be put off by the big budget film. How does that work with football?
I know I'm in the minority here but it's good for people like me who don't live near the club so can't get to many games. I do understand that it inconveniences fans. No idea if it's a net positive or negative in general but it is handy for me.
Which was catered for perfectly by the club streaming services, which would provide a bespoke service for their own fans, with their own commentators.
Except there was no legal way to watch games that weren’t midweek
So there are bigger games on at the same time as us? What’s the point then? I don’t get it. It’s not like having a blockbuster v another film at the cinema. Some, including myself, might be put off by the big budget film. How does that work with football?
I know I'm in the minority here but it's good for people like me who don't live near the club so can't get to many games. I do understand that it inconveniences fans. No idea if it's a net positive or negative in general but it is handy for me.
Which was catered for perfectly by the club streaming services, which would provide a bespoke service for their own fans, with their own commentators.
Except there was no legal way to watch games that weren’t midweek
Except watching streamed games on Charlton TV at 3pm Saturday was not illegal.
So there are bigger games on at the same time as us? What’s the point then? I don’t get it. It’s not like having a blockbuster v another film at the cinema. Some, including myself, might be put off by the big budget film. How does that work with football?
I know I'm in the minority here but it's good for people like me who don't live near the club so can't get to many games. I do understand that it inconveniences fans. No idea if it's a net positive or negative in general but it is handy for me.
Which was catered for perfectly by the club streaming services, which would provide a bespoke service for their own fans, with their own commentators.
Except there was no legal way to watch games that weren’t midweek
Except watching streamed games on Charlton TV at 3pm Saturday was not illegal.
So there are bigger games on at the same time as us? What’s the point then? I don’t get it. It’s not like having a blockbuster v another film at the cinema. Some, including myself, might be put off by the big budget film. How does that work with football?
I know I'm in the minority here but it's good for people like me who don't live near the club so can't get to many games. I do understand that it inconveniences fans. No idea if it's a net positive or negative in general but it is handy for me.
Which was catered for perfectly by the club streaming services, which would provide a bespoke service for their own fans, with their own commentators.
Except there was no legal way to watch games that weren’t midweek
Except watching streamed games on Charlton TV at 3pm Saturday was not illegal.
It was if you live in the UK.
Really? What’s the offence?
“It is unlikely that the football authorities would pursue cases against individuals who watch games in this manner, with the more desirable avenue to bring claims directly against the file sharing sites through the ISPs. Indeed, in 2014, the Court of Justice of the European Union ruled that internet users who watch copyrighted material online aren’t breaking the law by doing so.”
This is about pirate streams, but in this case the copyright holder is knowingly colluding in making the material available in the UK. So good luck to anyone prosecuting that!
Anyone know when the October selections are made? With nothing for September, do wonder if the Birmingham game at home on the 5th may get moved.
Prior to the start of the 2024/25 season, all TV selections will be confirmed for the period up to the FA Cup third round in early January. This is a landmark commitment, providing fans and clubs up to five months’ notice, an increase from the five weeks' notice given across the majority of the 2023/24 season. https://www.efl.com/news/2024/july/03/sky-bet-efl-broadcast-selections-confirmed-until-end-of-september/
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Will stadiums be redesigned so the seats have drop down trays like on planes?
What is this bollox?
at least they’ll have £400k more for us not turning up
If everyone refused to go in protest of these new kick off times (a big IF - I know this won’t happen but just imagine) then they would have to lower prices dramatically to persuade people to go. Without the crowd, the spectacle is ruined. People want to watch an event and without spectators there is no event.
Could easily set up a thread for that on here. I’d happily buy 12:30 KO tickets from other lifers when they can’t use them.
Other games on at 12:30:
Ipswich Vs Liverpool
Derby Vs Middlesbrough
Portsmouth Vs Luton
West Brom Vs Leeds
Shrewsbury Vs Peterborough
Bromley Vs Wimbledon
Carlisle Vs Barrow
If it were on for us terrestrial TV peasants starved of live league football then it may be different.
https://www.skysports.com/watch/football-on-sky
Hence my question above.
“It is unlikely that the football authorities would pursue cases against individuals who watch games in this manner, with the more desirable avenue to bring claims directly against the file sharing sites through the ISPs. Indeed, in 2014, the Court of Justice of the European Union ruled that internet users who watch copyrighted material online aren’t breaking the law by doing so.”
This is about pirate streams, but in this case the copyright holder is knowingly colluding in making the material available in the UK. So good luck to anyone prosecuting that!
https://www.efl.com/news/2024/july/03/sky-bet-efl-broadcast-selections-confirmed-until-end-of-september/