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Alex Mitchell Signed on a Three year Contract

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  • edited September 23
    The sub centre back Jones has been picking all season so far has been capable of playing full back as well as centre back (first REG, now Potts). 

    He’ll be able to cover multiple defensive positions with less players and fill the rest of the bench with five attack minded players to change a game if needed.

    Mitchell doesn’t have that in his locker so I can understand why he’s not in the 18 if not in the starting line-up. I’d expect the same to happen to Lloyd Jones.
  • fenaddick said:
    Amazing that people are immediately jumping to the idea there's an interpersonal problem when the reality is NJ probably just made a selection error
    You don’t mess around with the one good bit of the team unless there’s something amiss .  
  • fenaddick said:
    Amazing that people are immediately jumping to the idea there's an interpersonal problem when the reality is NJ probably just made a selection error
    But to not even be on the bench? After starting the season so well? Seems strange. 

    (Sorry to jump in here but take an interest in this thread with Mitchell being ex Millwall) 
    I think Jones wanted a left footed defender on the bench ie Potts.
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Amazing that people are immediately jumping to the idea there's an interpersonal problem when the reality is NJ probably just made a selection error
    But to not even be on the bench? After starting the season so well? Seems strange. 

    (Sorry to jump in here but take an interest in this thread with Mitchell being ex Millwall) 
    Think that was more about Potts than Mitchell, left footed, well known to NJ and could fill in at LB for half an hour if needed 
    Fair enough 
  • fenaddick said:
    Amazing that people are immediately jumping to the idea there's an interpersonal problem when the reality is NJ probably just made a selection error
    But to not even be on the bench? After starting the season so well? Seems strange. 

    (Sorry to jump in here but take an interest in this thread with Mitchell being ex Millwall) 
    I think Jones wanted a left footed defender on the bench ie Potts.
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Amazing that people are immediately jumping to the idea there's an interpersonal problem when the reality is NJ probably just made a selection error
    But to not even be on the bench? After starting the season so well? Seems strange. 

    (Sorry to jump in here but take an interest in this thread with Mitchell being ex Millwall) 
    Think that was more about Potts than Mitchell, left footed, well known to NJ and could fill in at LB for half an hour if needed 
    Fair enough 
    But what if Jones or REG had been injured? Mitchell covers right centre back and the middle one; Potts covers Gillesphey and the unlikely event of switching to a back 4, which admittedly happened on Saturday, but hasn't occurred often.  Still doesn't wash to me. 
  • edited September 24
    fenaddick said:
    wmcf123 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Amazing that people are immediately jumping to the idea there's an interpersonal problem when the reality is NJ probably just made a selection error
    You don’t mess around with the one good bit of the team unless there’s something amiss .  
    Of course you do, if you want to play it on the ground more and your ball playing CB had played well midweek. It didn't work clearly and I expect we'll see Mitchell again at the weekend. Managers change winning teams all the time, we just haven't had a winning team often enough to notice recently
    I mean one other factor that has been overlooked this week, is we've dropped T.Campbell for another Striker in two games this season.

    Godden came in against Rotherham and we drew 1-1
    Kanu came in on Saturday and we lost 1-2

    Jones resting / dropping Mitchell (whatever you want to call it), isnt the first time he's rotated.

    Its just the first time, people have wanted to notice.

    He's also done it plenty with the Midfield as well; Coventry and Docherty have been mainstays, but the other midfield slot has swapped between Berry / Anderson / A.Campbell - Going off results alone, it looks like Berry is the best option to go with.
  • fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Amazing that people are immediately jumping to the idea there's an interpersonal problem when the reality is NJ probably just made a selection error
    But to not even be on the bench? After starting the season so well? Seems strange. 

    (Sorry to jump in here but take an interest in this thread with Mitchell being ex Millwall) 
    Think that was more about Potts than Mitchell, left footed, well known to NJ and could fill in at LB for half an hour if needed 
    IF Potts is so good, I'd prefer we had Potts on the bench until one of the other CB's loses form. I liked REG last season, but Saturday's game showed we have upgraded across the back and I don't see him as a starter. 

    People are questioning if there's more to it, if there is I'd bet it's simply that REG has been training well, maybe better than Mitchell lately and was demanding to show what he can do... Which failed miserably. 
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  • fenaddick said:
    wmcf123 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Amazing that people are immediately jumping to the idea there's an interpersonal problem when the reality is NJ probably just made a selection error
    You don’t mess around with the one good bit of the team unless there’s something amiss .  
    Of course you do, if you want to play it on the ground more and your ball playing CB had played well midweek. It didn't work clearly and I expect we'll see Mitchell again at the weekend. Managers change winning teams all the time, we just haven't had a winning team often enough to notice recently
    I mean one other factor that has been overlooked this week, is we've dropped T.Campbell for another Striker in two games this season.

    Godden came in against Rotherham and we drew 1-1
    Kanu came in on Saturday and we lost 1-2

    Jones resting / dropping Mitchell (whatever you want to call it), isnt the first time he's rotated.

    Its just the first time, people have wanted to notice.

    He's also done it plenty with the Midfield as well; Coventry and Docherty have been mainstays, but the other midfield slot has swapped between Berry / Anderson / A.Campbell - Going off results alone, it looks like Berry is the best option to go with.

    I think this is a little unfair. The rotating up-top didn't surprise me that much. We haven't exactly been prolific in front of goal and I don't think we know what our best partnership upfront is. Whereas our settled backline has been our main strength so it seems a stranger change to me. 

    But I guess we tried something new, it didn't pay off. I suppose it happens.   
  • fenaddick said:
    wmcf123 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Amazing that people are immediately jumping to the idea there's an interpersonal problem when the reality is NJ probably just made a selection error
    You don’t mess around with the one good bit of the team unless there’s something amiss .  
    Of course you do, if you want to play it on the ground more and your ball playing CB had played well midweek. It didn't work clearly and I expect we'll see Mitchell again at the weekend. Managers change winning teams all the time, we just haven't had a winning team often enough to notice recently
    I mean one other factor that has been overlooked this week, is we've dropped T.Campbell for another Striker in two games this season.

    Godden came in against Rotherham and we drew 1-1
    Kanu came in on Saturday and we lost 1-2

    Jones resting / dropping Mitchell (whatever you want to call it), isnt the first time he's rotated.

    Its just the first time, people have wanted to notice.

    He's also done it plenty with the Midfield as well; Coventry and Docherty have been mainstays, but the other midfield slot has swapped between Berry / Anderson / A.Campbell - Going off results alone, it looks like Berry is the best option to go with.
    He's not rotated people that have been playing well though, bar in the cup games. None of the three mentioned midfielders have been that impressive, nor have any of the strikers.  Calling REG a ball playing centre back is a little far fetched anyway. 
  • fenaddick said:
    wmcf123 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Amazing that people are immediately jumping to the idea there's an interpersonal problem when the reality is NJ probably just made a selection error
    You don’t mess around with the one good bit of the team unless there’s something amiss .  
    Of course you do, if you want to play it on the ground more and your ball playing CB had played well midweek. It didn't work clearly and I expect we'll see Mitchell again at the weekend. Managers change winning teams all the time, we just haven't had a winning team often enough to notice recently
    I mean one other factor that has been overlooked this week, is we've dropped T.Campbell for another Striker in two games this season.

    Godden came in against Rotherham and we drew 1-1
    Kanu came in on Saturday and we lost 1-2

    Jones resting / dropping Mitchell (whatever you want to call it), isnt the first time he's rotated.

    Its just the first time, people have wanted to notice.

    He's also done it plenty with the Midfield as well; Coventry and Docherty have been mainstays, but the other midfield slot has swapped between Berry / Anderson / A.Campbell - Going off results alone, it looks like Berry is the best option to go with.

    I think this is a little unfair. The rotating up-top didn't surprise me that much. We haven't exactly been prolific in front of goal and I don't think we know what our best partnership upfront is. Whereas our settled backline has been our main strength so it seems a stranger change to me. 

    But I guess we tried something new, it didn't pay off. I suppose it happens.   
    Jones does get some credit for trying to make a change and also for accepting his own part when it didn't work.

    On the other hand it does suggest that there was something that needed to be fixed, and also that Saturday's experiment was not the solution so for me he still needs to actually solve that initial issue rather than just reverting back to the original and hoping it's good enough.

    For the record I'm still pro Jones and think he's done much more right than wrong but I don't think even he would see this current iteration as the "finished product" so hopefully the general upward trend (albeit slowly so) continues.
  • wmcf123 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Amazing that people are immediately jumping to the idea there's an interpersonal problem when the reality is NJ probably just made a selection error
    But to not even be on the bench? After starting the season so well? Seems strange. 

    (Sorry to jump in here but take an interest in this thread with Mitchell being ex Millwall) 
    I think Jones wanted a left footed defender on the bench ie Potts.
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Amazing that people are immediately jumping to the idea there's an interpersonal problem when the reality is NJ probably just made a selection error
    But to not even be on the bench? After starting the season so well? Seems strange. 

    (Sorry to jump in here but take an interest in this thread with Mitchell being ex Millwall) 
    Think that was more about Potts than Mitchell, left footed, well known to NJ and could fill in at LB for half an hour if needed 
    Fair enough 
    But what if Jones or REG had been injured? Mitchell covers right centre back and the middle one; Potts covers Gillesphey and the unlikely event of switching to a back 4, which admittedly happened on Saturday, but hasn't occurred often.  Still doesn't wash to me. 
    Then you shuffle everyone across one if you have to. Jones to the right, Gillesphey to the middle, Potts on the left. Not ideal but better than having too many defenders on the bench. In the end while we were chasing the game we brought on every single sub except Potts and the keeper to try and make a difference. Two centre mids and three attackers to give us options and we used every one in search of a result. If we'd brought another centre back on the bench instead we would have just ended up making one less sub. It makes perfect sense.
  • Oggy Red said:
    One or 2 posters have highlighted it - it's obvious really:

    At Cambridge REG had a very good game and added an extra dimension to our play out of defence, which together with Taylor's impressive contribution, made the platform for a much more creative and attractive team performance.

    In that post match interview, NJ made it clear how happy he was with the team performance and praised REG's play..

    He evidently thought he'd stumbled on a way to add an extra dimension to the team performance in the next game.
    Best laid plans of mice and men, and all that ....... and he was honest and humble enough to admit his tinkering hadn't worked.

    He'll go back to his trusted formula next match.

    And yet Taylor didn't get a look in v Blackpool.
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  • Is there any Charlton supporter who doesn't thinks Alex  Mitchell and Jones are our best two centre halves?

     Of course not. Rubbish decision from Jones. End of debate.
    Well yeah but even Jones himself has said so. He tried it but it was a mistake and he's admitted it. Not really much more he can do except take it forward and not try it again.
  • I don’t think the reasoning behind the change was wrong.

    In a back 3 at least one of that three should be able to progress the ball into midfield. That will cause the overload.

    However, Mitchell is not the player who should have been dropped, surely Potts should have played at LCB to progress the ball.
  • If he wants us to stop playing hoof ball then the answer is to remove Gillesphey, because that is all he looks to do.
  • Not much point passing to the midfield though. All they do is knock it back to a defender or the goalie!
  • I don’t think the reasoning behind the change was wrong.

    In a back 3 at least one of that three should be able to progress the ball into midfield. That will cause the overload.

    However, Mitchell is not the player who should have been dropped, surely Potts should have played at LCB to progress the ball.
    If you've got the players, yes.
  • edited September 27
    If he wants us to stop playing hoof ball then the answer is to remove Gillesphey, because that is all he looks to do.

    That is surely on instruction though.  The Plymouth fans all mainly raved about his wand of a left foot. I don't for one minute think they were talking about constant long punts to a target man upfront.
  • If he wants us to stop playing hoof ball then the answer is to remove Gillesphey, because even that is outside his skill set is all he looks to do.
    fixed it for you
  • I don’t think the reasoning behind the change was wrong.

    In a back 3 at least one of that three should be able to progress the ball into midfield. That will cause the overload.

    Jones looks like our most able ball player, if progressive play from CH's is what's required

    However, Mitchell is not the player who should have been dropped, surely Potts should have played at LCB to progress the ball.

  • clive said:
    made me laugh when he said our set piece delivery was “not bad”, I know he didn’t want to dig out a teammate but better to just not mention the delivery!
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