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England squad - EURO 2024

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  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    Bellingham is not going to be playing next to rice as that would from England’s squad POV have them starting with 5 forwards.  Plus he’s played just behind the striker all season and been excellent so why change your best players position.  Unless there’s an injury or two this is how I think he will start:

    Pickford
    Walker, Maguire, Stones, Shaw
    TAA, Rice
    Bellingham 
    Saka, Kane, Foden
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    By the sounds of it Southgate doesn't seem overly confident that Shaw will even be fit. Described him making it as 'a long shot'.

    Unless given the other complete lack of LB options you take him in the hope he'll be fit by the time of say the 3rd group game. That's still 5 weeks away. 
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,277
    Got to say, I feel for someone like Harvey Elliott as he’s been excellent. I know Jones is a different type of player but Elliott is so much better than him.
  • siblers
    siblers Posts: 2,016
    Harvey Elliot will probably feel a bit hard done by. Thought he was mainly excellent this season 
  • pickwick
    pickwick Posts: 1,649
    In a final or a semi final Mbappe will up against Maguire - who is going to win that race.


  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,942
    pickwick said:
    In a final or a semi final Mbappe will up against Maguire - who is going to win that race.


    Mbappe would probably be more up against Kyle Walker though.

    Decent right wingers worry me more given the left back issues.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,970
    pickwick said:
    In a final or a semi final Mbappe will up against Maguire - who is going to win that race.


    Kane up against Upamecano/Hernandez - who’s gonna win that battle.


  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,234
    pickwick said:
    In a final or a semi final Mbappe will up against Maguire - who is going to win that race.


    Mbappe would probably be more up against Kyle Walker though.

    Decent right wingers worry me more given the left back issues.
    I’ve just worked out Southgate’s latest brainwave. He’s gonna play Foden at left back. You read it here first!
  • mattinfinland
    mattinfinland Posts: 1,096
    edited May 2024
    pickwick said:
    In a final or a semi final Mbappe will up against Maguire - who is going to win that race.


    Mbappe would probably be more up against Kyle Walker though.

    Decent right wingers worry me more given the left back issues.
    Generally do not believe we will make it to the semis.

    For me Southgate is to naïve.

     
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  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,285
    Sage said:
    Got to say, I feel for someone like Harvey Elliott as he’s been excellent. I know Jones is a different type of player but Elliott is so much better than him.
    Elliott has often been a game changer coming off the bench for Liverpool this season, so surprised he's been left out probably at the expense of Jones.
    Quansah has huge potential but would certainly worry about him being ready for this year's Euros.
    Southgate like a left footed left back, but if Shaw is not fit either Trippier or Gomez would be fine. Trippier has played there before for England and never let us down, while Gomez's best games for Liverpool have been at left back. 
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,908
    The midfield worries me
    Yeah and it's 6 players in the provisional squad for 3 places on the pitch and 6 places in the final squad. Whereas forwards there are 12 players in the provisional squad for 3 on the pitch and 6/7 in the squad.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,908
    The midfield worries me
    Yeah and it's 6 players in the provisional squad for 3 places on the pitch and 6 places in the final squad. Whereas forwards there are 12 players in the provisional squad for 3 on the pitch and 6/7 in the squad.
    No wait its 6 for 2 and 4 so a bit more balanced than i thought. The likes of Bellingham/Bowen/Maddison are competing for the 10 role and included in the forwards.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,722
    Leuth said:
    I think Bowen will be in the final squad 
    I hope you are wrong. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,754
    Sounds like it’s touch and go whether Shaw will be fit. You’re probably looking at Gomez, Guehi or Branthwaite playing left back.
    Trippier will play left-back if Shaw isn't fit, and to be fair he's probably the best option. 
    Hopefully he’s not injured now as well… 😬

    Was subbed off in the 36th minute of Newcastle’s pointless friendly in Australia against Spurs.

    But it’s the FA Cup replays that’s the problem..
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,216
    So our replay against CVPM has fucked up our chances in the Euros?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited May 2024
    The truth of the Trippier situation is that he is returning from injury and was always due to come off at the time he did. 
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,689
    Is there anyone who should of been included or is this about right with the selection? 
  • Pickford

    Walker / Stones / Konsa / Gomez

    Rice / Gallagher

    Saka / Kane / Foden
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,116
    Pickford

    Walker / Stones / Konsa / Gomez

    Rice / Gallagher

    Saka / Kane / Foden
    We’re good, but not good enough to play a man down. 
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  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,707
    33 named now tells us how many are doubtful through injury
    With Shaw almost definitely crocked not selecting Ben Chilwell at this stage is lunacy
    There are no other even vaguely competent left backs in that squad
    Trippier has filled in previously but looked ropey
    Joe Gomez fills in for Liverpool and always struggles
    England's defensive weakness is bad enough without hamstringing the side with square pegs
    We Charlton fans know better than anybody that defensive makeweights are inevitably deadweights
    Chilwell may not be quite international standard but he is a specialist, everybody else Southgate has left himself with is a timebomb liability
    With all that attacking talent some might think we'll aim to outscore the opposition but when have Southgate's teams ever played high tempo out and out attacking football?
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,970
    Or to play that defence 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,942
    Billy_Mix said:
    33 named now tells us how many are doubtful through injury
    With Shaw almost definitely crocked not selecting Ben Chilwell at this stage is lunacy
    There are no other even vaguely competent left backs in that squad
    Trippier has filled in previously but looked ropey
    Joe Gomez fills in for Liverpool and always struggles
    England's defensive weakness is bad enough without hamstringing the side with square pegs
    We Charlton fans know better than anybody that defensive makeweights are inevitably deadweights
    Chilwell may not be quite international standard but he is a specialist, everybody else Southgate has left himself with is a timebomb liability
    With all that attacking talent some might think we'll aim to outscore the opposition but when have Southgate's teams ever played high tempo out and out attacking football?
    Chilwell hasn't been fit much of this season and has been awful when he has been.

    Mitchell is the one I'm surprised isn't in as the contingency for if Shaw can't go.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,722
    Pickford

    Walker / Stones / Konsa / Gomez

    Rice / Gallagher

    Saka / Kane / Foden
    If we play Gomez at left back we might as well give up now . 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,754
    Nothing wrong with playing Joe Gomez at left back. Done it 15 ish times for Liverpool this season and got generally good to excellent reviews doing it. He might be able to help out Maguire a bit as well…
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,908
    Nothing wrong with playing Joe Gomez at left back. Done it 15 ish times for Liverpool this season and got generally good to excellent reviews doing it. He might be able to help out Maguire a bit as well…
    this. 

    Remember we got to a semi final with Ashley Young at LB
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,722
    Nothing wrong with playing Joe Gomez at left back. Done it 15 ish times for Liverpool this season and got generally good to excellent reviews doing it. He might be able to help out Maguire a bit as well…
    Not For me. Defensively he may be ok but he's doesn't go forward enough like Shaw or Trippier would. He's a squad play at very best in my opinion. 
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,277
    The role of a full back is different now. They don’t need to be pushing high and wide all the time.

    If for example Gomez was to play there, he can step in to midfield to help Rice but more likely he can come more central and allow Stones to step in and create the overload.

    Most of the time we are going to have the ball more than the opposition. Having someone like Stones stepping in to the midfield because the full back has tucked in and round allows players like Bellingham and Foden to get higher up the pitch. Hurting teams in the areas they have done so well in for their clubs this season. 
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    What’s everyone’s most radical opinion on the team?  Mine is that I’d start Branthwaite, I think he’s had a brilliant season.  And with centre back being our weakest area I can’t see what harm it would do.  
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,942
    What’s everyone’s most radical opinion on the team?  Mine is that I’d start Branthwaite, I think he’s had a brilliant season.  And with centre back being our weakest area I can’t see what harm it would do.  
    Should be starting in the two friendlies to see how he does.  I get all the 'Maguire has done well at tournaments before' but he's has a very poor couple of years and always has a mistake in him.

    Branthwaite is left footed, so would fit well next to Stones and help cover a right footed left back somewhat if Shaw isn't fit.