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Sheffield Wednesday - players and staff paid late 2 months in a row (p7)
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North Stand closed at Hillsborough by the local council
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That was fairly obvious, no advisor was ever going to be taking a risk with fan safety at Hillsborough of all places.11
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Even the most positive of guys must get worn down after a while and while a different period, Chris has had to put up with Duchatalet and now this shower.Athletico Charlton said:
I read that they have passed player sales as the last 2/3 allowed them to pay wages of those who were previously unpaid... However they still owe the taxman and other clubs I think so you would think any other players with any value will likely be sold in the coming month if no takeover happens.golfaddick said:When do players get paid.....end of the month or a set day ? Surely the staff & players will get paid this month.
I would imagine Chris Powell would be a huge loss. In a difficult environment, having such a positive coach must have bought at least an air of normality.
It's a shame he could not have continued his gig with England where I am sure he was an outstanding mentor to the young players in the squad.9 -
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Even the most positive of guys must get worn down after a while and while a different period, Chris has had to put up with Duchatalet and now this shower.Athletico Charlton said:
I read that they have passed player sales as the last 2/3 allowed them to pay wages of those who were previously unpaid... However they still owe the taxman and other clubs I think so you would think any other players with any value will likely be sold in the coming month if no takeover happens.golfaddick said:When do players get paid.....end of the month or a set day ? Surely the staff & players will get paid this month.
I would imagine Chris Powell would be a huge loss. In a difficult environment, having such a positive coach must have bought at least an air of normality.
It's a shame he could not have continued his gig with England where I am sure he was an outstanding mentor to the young players in the squad.If Rohl was to get another job in the UK I imagine Powell would go with him as they seem to have built up a good relationship and work well.Word is that Rohl is interested in going back to Germany, that may not be so attractive to Powell should he be invited.1 -
Brings their capacity down by 9,000. Wonder if they’ll limit away fans to the lower tier of the West Stand only.Chris_from_Sidcup said:That was fairly obvious, no advisor was ever going to be taking a risk with fan safety at Hillsborough of all places.0 -
Gonna say it now - they aint getting a deduction and they will stay up8
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My understanding is that Sheffield Wed were quoted £15 million to do the work to replace the support structure of the North Stand. £3 million for remedial works to temporarily solve the problem. That’s a lot of wedge. Obviously Chansiri won’t be paying it and it’s another unavoidable expense to add to the purchase price of the club. Unless there is a purchase very close to being agreed it’s hard to see how they can continue. The monies owed to players was paid using transfer revenue and now that’s gone or nearly gone what then. Payday in the next few days will be interesting. Tax man and other clubs still owed money that presumably any buyer would need to fund in addition to the North Stand works. Hard to see anybody stupid enough. When will the EFL say something?0
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Massive to Medium in a stroke of the pen.shirty5 said:North Stand closed at Hillsborough by the local council4 -
The issue is that Chansiri has a ridiculous asking price. Last i read was that he wanted close to 100m, which he doesn't have a hope in hell of getting. A club without a manager, without a decent team, who will likely be in league one next season, with a condemned stand meaning one side of the ground is closed. He'd be lucky to even get half that.ShootersHillGuru said:My understanding is that Sheffield Wed were quoted £15 million to do the work to replace the support structure of the North Stand. £3 million for remedial works to temporarily solve the problem. That’s a lot of wedge. Obviously Chansiri won’t be paying it and it’s another unavoidable expense to add to the purchase price of the club. Unless there is a purchase very close to being agreed it’s hard to see how they can continue. The monies owed to players was paid using transfer revenue and now that’s gone or nearly gone what then. Payday in the next few days will be interesting. Tax man and other clubs still owed money that presumably any buyer would need to fund in addition to the North Stand works. Hard to see anybody stupid enough. When will the EFL say something?
Any prospective buyer at this point surely waits for them to go into administration?2 -
They also owe millions to HMRC and to other clubs. He needs to sell for a £1:00Chris_from_Sidcup said:
The issue is that Chansiri has a ridiculous asking price. Last i read was that he wanted close to 100m, which he doesn't have a hope in hell of getting. A club without a manager, without a decent team, who will likely be in league one next season, with a condemned stand meaning one side of the ground is closed. He'd be lucky to even get half that.ShootersHillGuru said:My understanding is that Sheffield Wed were quoted £15 million to do the work to replace the support structure of the North Stand. £3 million for remedial works to temporarily solve the problem. That’s a lot of wedge. Obviously Chansiri won’t be paying it and it’s another unavoidable expense to add to the purchase price of the club. Unless there is a purchase very close to being agreed it’s hard to see how they can continue. The monies owed to players was paid using transfer revenue and now that’s gone or nearly gone what then. Payday in the next few days will be interesting. Tax man and other clubs still owed money that presumably any buyer would need to fund in addition to the North Stand works. Hard to see anybody stupid enough. When will the EFL say something?
Any prospective buyer at this point surely waits for them to go into administration?2 - Sponsored links:
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Your past sentence says it all. When will the EFL act or do they just let it ride out ? Do they let Sheff Wed start the season (no reason not to re playing staff) but surely they should act with regard to the non payment of staff. I'm sure office & matchday staff are getting paid otherwise none will turn up on matchdays.ShootersHillGuru said:My understanding is that Sheffield Wed were quoted £15 million to do the work to replace the support structure of the North Stand. £3 million for remedial works to temporarily solve the problem. That’s a lot of wedge. Obviously Chansiri won’t be paying it and it’s another unavoidable expense to add to the purchase price of the club. Unless there is a purchase very close to being agreed it’s hard to see how they can continue. The monies owed to players was paid using transfer revenue and now that’s gone or nearly gone what then. Payday in the next few days will be interesting. Tax man and other clubs still owed money that presumably any buyer would need to fund in addition to the North Stand works. Hard to see anybody stupid enough.
When will the EFL say something?
It seems at least the City council are aware of their responsibilities !1 -
When they can't not. They announced transfer embargos, and will announce any other decision that needs to be made when they have to make it.ShootersHillGuru said:My understanding is that Sheffield Wed were quoted £15 million to do the work to replace the support structure of the North Stand. £3 million for remedial works to temporarily solve the problem. That’s a lot of wedge. Obviously Chansiri won’t be paying it and it’s another unavoidable expense to add to the purchase price of the club. Unless there is a purchase very close to being agreed it’s hard to see how they can continue. The monies owed to players was paid using transfer revenue and now that’s gone or nearly gone what then. Payday in the next few days will be interesting. Tax man and other clubs still owed money that presumably any buyer would need to fund in addition to the North Stand works. Hard to see anybody stupid enough. When will the EFL say something?
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Two weeks to kick off. I’d say they need to make a statement now.swordfish said:
When they can't not. They announced transfer embargos, and will announce any other decision that needs to be made when they have to make it.ShootersHillGuru said:My understanding is that Sheffield Wed were quoted £15 million to do the work to replace the support structure of the North Stand. £3 million for remedial works to temporarily solve the problem. That’s a lot of wedge. Obviously Chansiri won’t be paying it and it’s another unavoidable expense to add to the purchase price of the club. Unless there is a purchase very close to being agreed it’s hard to see how they can continue. The monies owed to players was paid using transfer revenue and now that’s gone or nearly gone what then. Payday in the next few days will be interesting. Tax man and other clubs still owed money that presumably any buyer would need to fund in addition to the North Stand works. Hard to see anybody stupid enough. When will the EFL say something?0 -
Oh mr mouthall, how would you like to buy a football club ?ShootersHillGuru said:
They also owe millions to HMRC and to other clubs. He needs to sell for a £1:00Chris_from_Sidcup said:
The issue is that Chansiri has a ridiculous asking price. Last i read was that he wanted close to 100m, which he doesn't have a hope in hell of getting. A club without a manager, without a decent team, who will likely be in league one next season, with a condemned stand meaning one side of the ground is closed. He'd be lucky to even get half that.ShootersHillGuru said:My understanding is that Sheffield Wed were quoted £15 million to do the work to replace the support structure of the North Stand. £3 million for remedial works to temporarily solve the problem. That’s a lot of wedge. Obviously Chansiri won’t be paying it and it’s another unavoidable expense to add to the purchase price of the club. Unless there is a purchase very close to being agreed it’s hard to see how they can continue. The monies owed to players was paid using transfer revenue and now that’s gone or nearly gone what then. Payday in the next few days will be interesting. Tax man and other clubs still owed money that presumably any buyer would need to fund in addition to the North Stand works. Hard to see anybody stupid enough. When will the EFL say something?
Any prospective buyer at this point surely waits for them to go into administration?1 -
The fact they haven't tells me to expect they'll kick off in the Championship, albeit with a thin squad, limited ground capacity, and owing money all over place with a Chairman keen to sell, so in a bad place. Do they really need to say that? Who's saying otherwise?ShootersHillGuru said:
Two weeks to kick off. I’d say they need to make a statement now.swordfish said:
When they can't not. They announced transfer embargos, and will announce any other decision that needs to be made when they have to make it.ShootersHillGuru said:My understanding is that Sheffield Wed were quoted £15 million to do the work to replace the support structure of the North Stand. £3 million for remedial works to temporarily solve the problem. That’s a lot of wedge. Obviously Chansiri won’t be paying it and it’s another unavoidable expense to add to the purchase price of the club. Unless there is a purchase very close to being agreed it’s hard to see how they can continue. The monies owed to players was paid using transfer revenue and now that’s gone or nearly gone what then. Payday in the next few days will be interesting. Tax man and other clubs still owed money that presumably any buyer would need to fund in addition to the North Stand works. Hard to see anybody stupid enough. When will the EFL say something?
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With everything going on, I’m surprised the EFL haven’t sought assurances that the Club can complete the season. It’s not about being able to make the first game, it’s that they can make the last one.swordfish said:
The fact they haven't tells me to expect they'll kick off in the Championship, albeit with a thin squad, limited ground capacity, and owing money all over place with a Chairman keen to sell, so in a bad place. Do they really need to say that? Who's saying otherwise?ShootersHillGuru said:
Two weeks to kick off. I’d say they need to make a statement now.swordfish said:
When they can't not. They announced transfer embargos, and will announce any other decision that needs to be made when they have to make it.ShootersHillGuru said:My understanding is that Sheffield Wed were quoted £15 million to do the work to replace the support structure of the North Stand. £3 million for remedial works to temporarily solve the problem. That’s a lot of wedge. Obviously Chansiri won’t be paying it and it’s another unavoidable expense to add to the purchase price of the club. Unless there is a purchase very close to being agreed it’s hard to see how they can continue. The monies owed to players was paid using transfer revenue and now that’s gone or nearly gone what then. Payday in the next few days will be interesting. Tax man and other clubs still owed money that presumably any buyer would need to fund in addition to the North Stand works. Hard to see anybody stupid enough. When will the EFL say something?They’ll never get that assurance from Chansiri though. An absolute mess!3 -
I take that as....." how much can we bung you to keep it open".clive said:0 -
I honestly don’t see how they can start the season in the current circumstances. How on earth can they provide evidence that they have funds to complete the season whilst they owe HMRC etc0
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He allegedly owes a lot of money to people he's borrowed from, and some at fairly high interest rates, which is why his asking price is so high.ShootersHillGuru said:
They also owe millions to HMRC and to other clubs. He needs to sell for a £1:00Chris_from_Sidcup said:
The issue is that Chansiri has a ridiculous asking price. Last i read was that he wanted close to 100m, which he doesn't have a hope in hell of getting. A club without a manager, without a decent team, who will likely be in league one next season, with a condemned stand meaning one side of the ground is closed. He'd be lucky to even get half that.ShootersHillGuru said:My understanding is that Sheffield Wed were quoted £15 million to do the work to replace the support structure of the North Stand. £3 million for remedial works to temporarily solve the problem. That’s a lot of wedge. Obviously Chansiri won’t be paying it and it’s another unavoidable expense to add to the purchase price of the club. Unless there is a purchase very close to being agreed it’s hard to see how they can continue. The monies owed to players was paid using transfer revenue and now that’s gone or nearly gone what then. Payday in the next few days will be interesting. Tax man and other clubs still owed money that presumably any buyer would need to fund in addition to the North Stand works. Hard to see anybody stupid enough. When will the EFL say something?
Any prospective buyer at this point surely waits for them to go into administration?0 - Sponsored links:
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Do any rules require them to do so?AndyG said:I honestly don’t see how they can start the season in the current circumstances. How on earth can they provide evidence that they have funds to complete the season whilst they owe HMRC etc0 -
Chansiri soon to get one of theseChris_from_Sidcup said:He allegedly owes a lot of money to people he's borrowed from, and some at fairly high interest rates, which is why his asking price is so high.
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I’m pretty sure they do yes. Pretty unfair if the play number of games and then can’t completeStu_of_Kunming said:
Do any rules require them to do so?AndyG said:I honestly don’t see how they can start the season in the current circumstances. How on earth can they provide evidence that they have funds to complete the season whilst they owe HMRC etc0 -
That’s not what I mean but you know that. The EFL have a responsibility to ensure that a club has the wherewithal to complete its fixtures. At this point would you say that requirement is likely to be met ?swordfish said:
The fact they haven't tells me to expect they'll kick off in the Championship, albeit with a thin squad, limited ground capacity, and owing money all over place with a Chairman keen to sell, so in a bad place. Do they really need to say that? Who's saying otherwise?ShootersHillGuru said:
Two weeks to kick off. I’d say they need to make a statement now.swordfish said:
When they can't not. They announced transfer embargos, and will announce any other decision that needs to be made when they have to make it.ShootersHillGuru said:My understanding is that Sheffield Wed were quoted £15 million to do the work to replace the support structure of the North Stand. £3 million for remedial works to temporarily solve the problem. That’s a lot of wedge. Obviously Chansiri won’t be paying it and it’s another unavoidable expense to add to the purchase price of the club. Unless there is a purchase very close to being agreed it’s hard to see how they can continue. The monies owed to players was paid using transfer revenue and now that’s gone or nearly gone what then. Payday in the next few days will be interesting. Tax man and other clubs still owed money that presumably any buyer would need to fund in addition to the North Stand works. Hard to see anybody stupid enough. When will the EFL say something?0 -
Not sure, ask Bury Town Football Club, they may be able to help.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Do any rules require them to do so?AndyG said:I honestly don’t see how they can start the season in the current circumstances. How on earth can they provide evidence that they have funds to complete the season whilst they owe HMRC etc1 -
A PlayStation?ArmchairAddick said:
Chansiri soon to get one of theseChris_from_Sidcup said:He allegedly owes a lot of money to people he's borrowed from, and some at fairly high interest rates, which is why his asking price is so high.3 -
Obviously I can’t, but I’m genuinely curious.charltonbob said:
Not sure, ask Bury Town Football Club, they may be able to help.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Do any rules require them to do so?AndyG said:I honestly don’t see how they can start the season in the current circumstances. How on earth can they provide evidence that they have funds to complete the season whilst they owe HMRC etc0 -
I’m pretty sure that all EFL clubs have to submit financial proof that they have funds for the season mateStu_of_Kunming said:
Obviously I can’t, but I’m genuinely curious.charltonbob said:
Not sure, ask Bury Town Football Club, they may be able to help.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Do any rules require them to do so?AndyG said:I honestly don’t see how they can start the season in the current circumstances. How on earth can they provide evidence that they have funds to complete the season whilst they owe HMRC etc0 -
He has the money, just doesn't want to spend it!0
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Blimey Charlton fans, was just perving on other clubs forums to gather some qualitative info from each teams fans to see how the Championship season is shaping up. Didn't expect to see a big thread about us and plenty of hatred on their, but also some love and appreciation. Our club has been consistently and utterly mismanaged and abused from the top down for decades now. I know certain clubs can empathise with that, maybe such as yourselves who've clearly been dragged along by the wrong people doing the wrong things and making the fans suffer.
Anyway, I'm not trying to change opinions. Football is a game of emotion and bad experiences clearly stick around but I hope you guys know there's plenty of genuinely decent fans of our club and not monsters. Visited the Valley a few times in recent years sat in the home end due to working nearby and also with SWFC. One of my favourite traditional grounds and the only London team I've warmed too (alongside Bromley). Genuinely had some super interactions with Charlton fans and plenty of banter.
I came on mainly because I was intruiged at the business you'd conducted this summer and was liking the shape up of your squad moving forwards. I've got you down to finish top half, not sure what you guys think?
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