A cargo ship has collided with an oil tanker in the North Sea off East Yorkshire. 32 casualties reported and both vessels appear to be on fire. This could be a huge disaster for the environment.
Accidents happen from time to time. More importantly all crew seem to be ok
Of course it's good that the crew are OK, but it may still be a disaster for the environment. The East coast has some very important nature reserves, at a time when nature is struggling, it does not need accidents like this. There is large gannet colony not far away. The Wash is internationally important for birds and the Norfolk Coast is important for seals, which currently have pups.
Looks like my earlier comment was too optimistic. Fingers crossed re the enviromental impact. Still very unclear at this stage though.
A cargo ship has collided with an oil tanker in the North Sea off East Yorkshire. 32 casualties reported and both vessels appear to be on fire. This could be a huge disaster for the environment.
Accidents happen from time to time. More importantly all crew seem to be ok
Of course it's good that the crew are OK, but it may still be a disaster for the environment. The East coast has some very important nature reserves, at a time when nature is struggling, it does not need accidents like this. There is large gannet colony not far away. The Wash is internationally important for birds and the Norfolk Coast is important for seals, which currently have pups.
Looks like my earlier comment was too optimistic. Fingers crossed re the enviromental impact. Still very unclear at this stage though.
Let's hope that the effects won't be too bad, it is a great worry though, as the area is so important for wildlife.
Sadly one crew member is missing and the search has been called off.
A cargo ship has collided with an oil tanker in the North Sea off East Yorkshire. 32 casualties reported and both vessels appear to be on fire. This could be a huge disaster for the environment.
0 casualties reported, one person in hospital.
I wrote that post whilst watching live coverage on tv. At that time they were reporting 32 casualties. Look at the time stamp on my post.
Reports change, which is why I updated it, I managed to get it totally screwed up though.
In the great fight, what do we think of switching to eating lab grown meat?
I like the theory, but there's a bit yuk factor for me if I'm being honest. Which is weird because I eat a lot of processed food, that I don't have a Scooby about its origins. I expect I'll eat it. Maybe the way to get me started is to drop it in some meals/foodstuffs that I'm unaware of and reveal what it was afterwards.
In the great fight, what do we think of switching to eating lab grown meat?
I like the theory, but there's a bit yuk factor for me if I'm being honest. Which is weird because I eat a lot of processed food, that I don't have a Scooby about its origins. I expect I'll eat it. Maybe the way to get me started is to drop it in some meals/foodstuffs that I'm unaware of and reveal what it was afterwards.
Believe me, the yuk factor is worse when it comes to intense farming, and especially slaughterhouses that practice Kosher & Halal slaughter.
I sympathise with the farmers, but it would be great to put that behind us.
A 59-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of gross negligence manslaughter over North Sea collision, police say
One of the ships, the Solong, is still alight after it collided with an oil tanker in the North Sea on Monday, its owners say. One crew member of the Solong is unaccounted for and the working assumption is that they have died, a UK minister says. Owners of the cargo ship say it was not carrying sodium cyanide, as previously reported, but had four empty containers that had once held the toxic chemical.
It might be my imagination, but COP's seem to be becoming a bigger piss take every year, seized on as an opportunity by the hosts for economic growth whatever the detrimental costs in trying to limit global warming.
Edit - I wonder how much beef will be consumed as part of their hospitality.
How big is COP that they need a four lane highway? And if they genuinely need one, why isn't it in a place that already has one?
An example of the stupidity or wilful bloody mindedness of humanity. Probably hosting it where they can extol the virtues of the rainforest environment whilst destroying it.
A big two fingers up to all doing their bit planting trees around the globe.
We already have location pricing - if you go to a country that burns lots of fossil fuels, the energy is dirt cheap.
Fossil fuel burning is detrimental to the planet, we have to move away from them. The UK buys fossil fuels on the open market so we cannot control the price. Moving to renewable sources with home grown energy will reduce prices and be good for the planet.
We already have location pricing - if you go to a country that burns lots of fossil fuels, the energy is dirt cheap.
"The price of everything but the value of nothing", springs to mind, so i looked it up. It may help the cynical among us to self-identify as such.
https://paulbernal.wordpress.com/2014/04/13/the-price-of-everything-and-the-value-of-nothing/ In Lady Windemere’s Fan, Oscar Wilde had Lord Darlington quip that a cynic was ‘a man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.‘ As with so much of what Wilde wrote or said, it’s more than just a nice turn of phrase – it hits at the heart of the problems of society. Lady Windemere’s Fan was written in 1892, but what Wilde wrote is even more true now than it was 122 years ago. These days, our government, our businesses, our media and more seem to be dominated by what Wilde would have described as cynics. The idea that anyone in the ‘real world’ should even consider ethical, moral, philosophical or cultural values to be on a par with financial or economic ‘value’ appears whimsical, sentimental, even romantic. Hard-nosed, sensible, rational, practical people ‘know’ otherwise. It’s the economy, stupid.
We already have location pricing - if you go to a country that burns lots of fossil fuels, the energy is dirt cheap.
A country like Germany or Japan you mean? Both these countries rely on fossil fuels. Both have energy costs significantly higher than Norway, which relies on hydroelectricity.
Germany $0.39 kWh Japan $0.26 kWh Norway $0.18 kWh
(But please don't let the factual evidence dissuade you from continuing to post nonsense).
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Sadly one crew member is missing and the search has been called off.
I sympathise with the farmers, but it would be great to put that behind us.
It might be my imagination, but COP's seem to be becoming a bigger piss take every year, seized on as an opportunity by the hosts for economic growth whatever the detrimental costs in trying to limit global warming.
Edit - I wonder how much beef will be consumed as part of their hospitality.
A big two fingers up to all doing their bit planting trees around the globe.
Yet another bit of evidence putting the ridiculous "renewables cost more" lie to bed.
https://paulbernal.wordpress.com/2014/04/13/the-price-of-everything-and-the-value-of-nothing/
In Lady Windemere’s Fan, Oscar Wilde had Lord Darlington quip that a cynic was ‘a man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.‘ As with so much of what Wilde wrote or said, it’s more than just a nice turn of phrase – it hits at the heart of the problems of society. Lady Windemere’s Fan was written in 1892, but what Wilde wrote is even more true now than it was 122 years ago. These days, our government, our businesses, our media and more seem to be dominated by what Wilde would have described as cynics. The idea that anyone in the ‘real world’ should even consider ethical, moral, philosophical or cultural values to be on a par with financial or economic ‘value’ appears whimsical, sentimental, even romantic. Hard-nosed, sensible, rational, practical people ‘know’ otherwise. It’s the economy, stupid.
Germany $0.39 kWh
Japan $0.26 kWh
Norway $0.18 kWh
(But please don't let the factual evidence dissuade you from continuing to post nonsense).