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  • It's a good start, obviously decades from a transatlantic flight! I remember when electric cars had the top speed of a milk float and look them now.
    They still have the range of a milk float mind
    Is 1992 the year of your first game, birth year or the year you live in?
    It's the year I met your mum actually. Been a happy man ever since.
    I'm just glad mum jokes are still going.
    It's an Emergency when these stop
    You know we’re a Facebook arrest away from that happening tho!
  • shirty5 said:
    A cargo ship has collided with an oil tanker in the North Sea off East Yorkshire.  32 casualties reported and both vessels appear to be on fire. This could be a huge disaster for the environment.
    Accidents happen from time to time. More importantly all crew seem to be ok
    Of course it's good that the crew are OK, but it may still be a disaster for the environment. The East coast has some very important nature reserves, at a time when nature is struggling, it does not need accidents like this. There is large gannet colony not far away. The Wash is internationally important for birds and the Norfolk Coast is important for seals, which currently have pups.
    Looks like my earlier comment was too optimistic. Fingers crossed re the enviromental impact. Still very unclear at this stage though. 
  • redman said:
    shirty5 said:
    A cargo ship has collided with an oil tanker in the North Sea off East Yorkshire.  32 casualties reported and both vessels appear to be on fire. This could be a huge disaster for the environment.
    Accidents happen from time to time. More importantly all crew seem to be ok
    Of course it's good that the crew are OK, but it may still be a disaster for the environment. The East coast has some very important nature reserves, at a time when nature is struggling, it does not need accidents like this. There is large gannet colony not far away. The Wash is internationally important for birds and the Norfolk Coast is important for seals, which currently have pups.
    Looks like my earlier comment was too optimistic. Fingers crossed re the enviromental impact. Still very unclear at this stage though. 
    Let's hope that the effects won't be too bad, it is a great worry though, as the area is so important for wildlife.

    Sadly one crew member is missing and the search has been called off. 
  • A cargo ship has collided with an oil tanker in the North Sea off East Yorkshire.  32 casualties reported and both vessels appear to be on fire. This could be a huge disaster for the environment.
    0 casualties reported, one person in hospital. 
    I wrote that post whilst watching live coverage on tv. At that time they were reporting 32 casualties. Look at the time stamp on my post.
    Reports change, which is why I updated it, I managed to get it totally screwed up though. 
  • In the great fight, what do we think of switching to eating lab grown meat?
  • swordfish said:
    In the great fight, what do we think of switching to eating lab grown meat?
    I’m lovin it
  • swordfish said:
    In the great fight, what do we think of switching to eating lab grown meat?
    Will they be able to grow this, the latest addition at my local?


  • swordfish said:
    In the great fight, what do we think of switching to eating lab grown meat?
    I think it's great. You get to eat meat but without all the cruelty.
  • swordfish said:
    In the great fight, what do we think of switching to eating lab grown meat?
    I like the theory, but there's a bit yuk factor for me if I'm being honest. Which is weird because I eat a lot of processed food, that I don't have a Scooby about its origins. I expect I'll eat it. Maybe the way to get me started is to drop it in some meals/foodstuffs that I'm unaware of and reveal what it was afterwards. 
  • edited March 11
    swordfish said:
    In the great fight, what do we think of switching to eating lab grown meat?
    Will they be able to grow this, the latest addition at my local?


    Good point (and that IS a tasty looking burger pile of scratchings) but is it only going to be lean meat? Be no good for Jack Spratt's missus. 
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  • Stig said:
    swordfish said:
    In the great fight, what do we think of switching to eating lab grown meat?
    I like the theory, but there's a bit yuk factor for me if I'm being honest. Which is weird because I eat a lot of processed food, that I don't have a Scooby about its origins. I expect I'll eat it. Maybe the way to get me started is to drop it in some meals/foodstuffs that I'm unaware of and reveal what it was afterwards. 
    Believe me, the yuk factor is worse when it comes to intense farming, and especially slaughterhouses that practice Kosher & Halal slaughter.

    I sympathise with the farmers, but it would be great to put that behind us. 
  • edited March 11
    A 59-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of gross negligence manslaughter over North Sea collision, police say
    One of the ships, the Solong, is still alight after it collided with an oil tanker in the North Sea on Monday, its owners say. One crew member of the Solong is unaccounted for and the working assumption is that they have died, a UK minister says.  Owners of the cargo ship say it was not carrying sodium cyanide, as previously reported, but had four empty containers that had once held the toxic chemical. 
  • RIP to the missing crew member, likely dead. These people often put themselves in danger to bring us the goods we enjoy. 
  • RIP to the missing crew member, likely dead. These people often put themselves in danger to bring us the goods we enjoy. 
    The captain of a cargo ship arrested after a collision with a tanker in the North Sea is a Russian national, the ship's owner has confirmed.
  • edited March 12
    https://www.lbc.co.uk/world-news/miles-of-brazilian-rainforest-cut-down-to-build-road-for-climate-summit-cop30/

    It might be my imagination, but COP's seem to be becoming a bigger piss take every year, seized on as an opportunity by the hosts for economic growth whatever the detrimental costs in trying to limit global warming.

    Edit - I wonder how much beef will be consumed as part of their hospitality. 
  • How big is COP that they need a four lane highway?  And if they genuinely need one, why isn't it in a place that already has one?
  • Stig said:
    How big is COP that they need a four lane highway?  And if they genuinely need one, why isn't it in a place that already has one?
    An example of the stupidity or wilful bloody mindedness of humanity. Probably hosting it where they can extol the virtues of the rainforest environment whilst destroying it.

    A big two fingers up to all doing their bit planting trees around the globe. 
  • We already have location pricing - if you go to a country that burns lots of fossil fuels, the energy is dirt cheap.
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  • Seems like the pricing mechanism point I've been banging on about is finally getting some traction. That and localised grids like I've been saying.

    Yet another bit of evidence putting the ridiculous "renewables cost more" lie to bed.



    I believe this was the guy I heard on the radio the other day. If so, he was very good. 
  • Tony Juniper is Chair of Natural England and has written many books on Climate Change and the benefits of nature to the economy. 

    Whilst there is so much emphasis on growing the economy, it would be good for everyone to read some of his books, particularly 'What has Nature ever done for us?:How money really does grow on trees' and 'What Nature has done for Britain'. 

    Both books warn of the impacts of not looking after nature, in terms of money and how much better off the economy would be if we look after the natural world.

    https://tonyjuniper.com/


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