A: Qatar played 3 lost 3 B: England played 3 lost 0 C: Argentina played 3 lost 1 D; France played 3 lost 1 E: Belgium played 3 lost 1 F: Spain played 3 lost 1
Eight pot 1 seeds from the original draw:
A: Qatar played 3 lost 3 B: England played 3 lost 0 C: Argentina played 3 lost 1 D; France played 3 lost 1 E: Belgium played 3 lost 1 F: Spain played 3 lost 1 G: Brazil played 3 lost 1 H: Portugal played 3 lost 1
Cheating a little bit because Netherlands were the best team in pot 2 and clearly Qatar were a "false" pot 1 side but it's still a nice stat.
27/32 (84%) group winners from the last four WCs (2006, 2010, 2014, 2018) have progressed to the quarter finals. The five exceptions were Russia & England (2018), Ghana (2010), Ukraine & France (2006).
15/40 (37.5%) L16 matches from the last five WCs have ended in a draw after 90 minutes.
14/40 (35%) L16 matches since 2002 have seen a goal in the 85th minute or later.
The “easy” draws of the last two tournaments distraction doesn’t apply now. Perhaps that will be a good thing for England and expectation levels will be reasonable. This is a very open tournament without an outstanding side. There are three or four good ones (England included) but there is no clear favourite. Brazil are understandably the bookies’ favourite but they are not outstanding. Game on.
Forgive me for looking beyond the Senegal game which will be tough but I recall a while back Mbappe saying that Walker was the fastest defender he has faced. If you stop him, you have a decent chance of stopping France so I would be tempted to rest Walker tomorrow or at least give him 20 minutes tops as we have options for Senegal and shouldn't risk him for the France game should they and us overcome our round of 16 opponents which we both should do.
Question: Are England a better team/squad than 2018 when we needed penalties to beat Colombia in the last 16 match ?
A. Most definitely despite the lack luster form pre WC.
Q. Did Southgate learn from the England Euro winning squad that the team for the last 30 minutes is as important if not more so that the starting 11 ? Masterclass on using subs by Sarina Wiegman.
A. Got away with keeping Kane on too long after the heavy challenge but hopefully Southgate is older and wiser after coming close in the last two major tournaments. Getting minutes for most of the outfield squad could reaped dividends in the KO rounds as possible 140 minutes could happen.
Q. Can England control the tempo and take our chances. Kane's form could be the difference as normally he is shagged out in the Summer after never being rotated for Spurs. Great assists by Harry so far.
Q. 3rd gear excellent win against Iran who had other issues on their mind. Defensive don't lose draw against hardworking USA and another patient victory over a mediocre Wales side.
A. 3rd and 4 gear needed against the African champions and Gareth needs to get both the starting 11 and the potential 5 subs correct.
Q. Can England win and reach the Quarters for the 3rd time in a row in a major Tournament ?
The big question for me is how we would react to taking the lead against a good team. We have to keep looking for another, then another IMO. Failing to do so cost us getting to the last final and the Euros. I don't know the answer to that question but it will be answered soon enough.
The thing is, being a front foot team suits England and its defence. If it maintains that approach, yes we can win this thing.
Forgive me for looking beyond the Senegal game which will be tough but I recall a while back Mbappe saying that Walker was the fastest defender he has faced. If you stop him, you have a decent chance of stopping France so I would be tempted to rest Walker tomorrow or at least give him 20 minutes tops as we have options for Senegal and shouldn't risk him for the France game should they and us overcome our round of 16 opponents which we both should do.
It's very dangerous to rest your best players in a knockout game. For me we need to field our best XI, get the game won and then bring players off early if we can, like we did v Wales.
It will also be 5 days since the Wales game and we then have 6 days until the quarter final so i don't think anyone really needs a rest.
Forgive me for looking beyond the Senegal game which will be tough but I recall a while back Mbappe saying that Walker was the fastest defender he has faced. If you stop him, you have a decent chance of stopping France so I would be tempted to rest Walker tomorrow or at least give him 20 minutes tops as we have options for Senegal and shouldn't risk him for the France game should they and us overcome our round of 16 opponents which we both should do.
It's very dangerous to rest your best players in a knockout game. For me we need to field our best XI, get the game won and then bring players off early if we can, like we did v Wales.
It will also be 5 days since the Wales game and we then have 6 days until the quarter final so i don't think anyone really needs a rest.
I would agree to a point. Without great pace against you the other options are more than decent. Walker is essential for Mbappe but not Senegal.
Don't like getting ahead of myself but if Walker plays then surely the French could play Mbappe on the right where Shaw wouldn't be able to cope with his pace and it would negate Shaw getting forward. Mbappe can tear down both flanks and central if needed and not sure if Walker could live with him if the French super star gets off his blocks first BUT as was proven in the Champions League final when Walker went off injured City were done for pace by Vinicus and the other young pacey players.
Don't like getting ahead of myself but if Walker plays then surely the French could play Mbappe on the right where Shaw wouldn't be able to cope with his pace and it would negate Shaw getting forward. Mbappe can tear down both flanks and central if needed and not sure if Walker could live with him if the French super star gets off his blocks first ?
The last 16 game first but as it was mentioned.
I fully expect Walker to play as the third center back against France. If we go with a back 3 against Senegal first or not is the question. I think.
He likes Trippier in the side for his set pieces. One thing I really like about Southgate's approach to team selection is how he looks at what attributes he wants in the team, not necessarily who the best players are. Set pieces will play apart now and both Stones and Maguire have been unlucky not to score yet and could have had a penalty or two as well.
Yeah knock all the talk of resting players on the head. If this World Cup has taught us anything is that you respect your opposition and want your best players playing to their best ability every game. One game as it comes.
Play your best team against Senegal. If that gives you a chance to rest a few players later in the game then that is a bonus. No point having a fresh player sat watching France v Senegal on tv
Yeah knock all the talk of resting players on the head. If this World Cup has taught us anything is that you respect your opposition and want your best players playing to their best ability every game. One game as it comes.
I wasn't thinking of resting Walker but more that he has come back from injury so it is more about preserving him.
Germany and Denmark proving we got a bye to the final in the euros as well as the last World Cup to the final
yeah... because teams are always as good as they were 4 years previously... lol
you forgot about Belgium in our group btw bye for the whole tournament right??
Don’t think we played Germany and Denmark 4 years ago Belgium were good 4 years ago all the other shit we played were pony 4 years ago
so.. you agree with me then..?
teams being good in the past doesn't = good now.
glad we cleared that up
I’m saying teams from 4 years ago we played were pony then (Belgium apart) and teams last year in euros were pony and we duly dispatched all the pony teams except Croatia 4 years ago and if it helps a team is likely to be nearer to how they were 17 months on rather than 53 months on
You can only beat what's in front of you.
We played Sweden in 2018 because Germany messed up in their group, Croatia because they were better than Argentina, Denmark last year because Netherlands lost in their part of the draw.
By the very fact those types of teams reached QFs, Semis, they were better than those that failed to.
And we are better than all other London teams looking at the league cup .
better teams do mess up and don’t go as far as others who would we rather in our side of the group Spain or Japan🤷♂️ as ever we want the better teams to not qualify and I’d say I’d prefer to play Japan over Germany.
and of course we can only beat who we play but there are easier draws and we certainly had and took advantage of them last two tourneys , Croatia apart , who I believe everyone would take , at that point in time , forever for a World Cup semi final opponent forever …
who we all cheering on in France v Poland … exactly
Yeah but you said our knockout games in the euros were byes - that's very different to saying they were "easier" games on paper. A bye means an automatic win. And you based that assumption on results at a different tournament 18 months later.
In other words.. its bollocks.
in the knockout stage of the euros we had as pony a german team as there has been in our lifetimes ukraine in quarters , yes that one that lost to Wales Denmark in the semis .. come on they are as easy as we could wish for
i mean are you gonna take things literally, please don't , of course we've had super easy draws last two tourneys and have performed decent enough , i think we've had the luck of the draw and took advantage till the failure in euros final and losing to croatia in a world cup semi
What if Poland beat France and we beat Senegal then Poland. Will Poland still be 'pony' to you?
If we beat Senegal and then France, will you give it a rest?
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Eight pot 1 seeds from the original draw:
A: Qatar played 3 lost 3
B: England played 3 lost 0
C: Argentina played 3 lost 1
D; France played 3 lost 1
E: Belgium played 3 lost 1
F: Spain played 3 lost 1
G: Brazil played 3 lost 1
H: Portugal played 3 lost 1
Cheating a little bit because Netherlands were the best team in pot 2 and clearly Qatar were a "false" pot 1 side but it's still a nice stat.
Dutch haven’t lost, nor Morocco
Best Defences so far...
In short it's coming home
Senegal, France, Spain/Portugal
or
Netherlands, Argentina, Brazil
Upsets can, and probably will, happen. But right now it doesn’t appear as if there would’ve been any benefit in trying to finish 2nd in the group.
Brazil definitely have the easiest draw and I’d be shocked if they don’t reach the semi-final now.
27/32 (84%) group winners from the last four WCs (2006, 2010, 2014, 2018) have progressed to the quarter finals. The five exceptions were Russia & England (2018), Ghana (2010), Ukraine & France (2006).
15/40 (37.5%) L16 matches from the last five WCs have ended in a draw after 90 minutes.
14/40 (35%) L16 matches since 2002 have seen a goal in the 85th minute or later.
A. Most definitely despite the lack luster form pre WC.
Q. Did Southgate learn from the England Euro winning squad that the team for the last 30 minutes is as important if not more so that the starting 11 ? Masterclass on using subs by Sarina Wiegman.
A. Got away with keeping Kane on too long after the heavy challenge but hopefully Southgate is older and wiser after coming close in the last two major tournaments. Getting minutes for most of the outfield squad could reaped dividends in the KO rounds as possible 140 minutes could happen.
Q. Can England control the tempo and take our chances. Kane's form could be the difference as normally he is shagged out in the Summer after never being rotated for Spurs. Great assists by Harry so far.
Q. 3rd gear excellent win against Iran who had other issues on their mind. Defensive don't lose draw against hardworking USA and another patient victory over a mediocre Wales side.
A. 3rd and 4 gear needed against the African champions and Gareth needs to get both the starting 11 and the potential 5 subs correct.
Q. Can England win and reach the Quarters for the 3rd time in a row in a major Tournament ?
A. Yes.
The thing is, being a front foot team suits England and its defence. If it maintains that approach, yes we can win this thing.
It will also be 5 days since the Wales game and we then have 6 days until the quarter final so i don't think anyone really needs a rest.
The last 16 game first but as it was mentioned.
He likes Trippier in the side for his set pieces. One thing I really like about Southgate's approach to team selection is how he looks at what attributes he wants in the team, not necessarily who the best players are. Set pieces will play apart now and both Stones and Maguire have been unlucky not to score yet and could have had a penalty or two as well.
Knee injury by the sounds of things
'Pundit' comes from Hindi, meaning 'learned man or scholar' so it's quite inappropriate. I would rather call them 'waffleheads.'
If we beat Senegal and then France, will you give it a rest?