Looks like 4-3-3. As has been said before the biggest question is how the three CMs set up. I’d be surprised if the others line up differently.
Wollacott
Clare Inniss O’Connell Sessegnon
Dobson
JFC Fraser
CBT Kirk
Stockley
Second half if we sub on entire team
CM
Ness Lavelle Elerewe Clayden
Gilbey Morgan
Davison Aneke DJ
Leaburn
You’re not gonna like this if you’re one of the negative Norris’ but the fact that the latter is our second XI shows we are stronger than we have been for a good few years, could we even fill a second XI in the last five years or so.
Not sure about that. How many of those players in the second XI would you be happy with playing 25+ games. Aneke is the only proven decent player
Ideally none of them because it’s our second XI.
When did we last have a stronger second XI, in league one?
On paper 2 years ago was stronger. I think the opposite, that second XI looks weak. Ness and Claydon out of position, Leaburn young and Gilbey, Morgan, Davison and DJ not particularly good.
Looks like 4-3-3. As has been said before the biggest question is how the three CMs set up. I’d be surprised if the others line up differently.
Wollacott
Clare Inniss O’Connell Sessegnon
Dobson
JFC Fraser
CBT Kirk
Stockley
Second half if we sub on entire team
CM
Ness Lavelle Elerewe Clayden
Gilbey Morgan
Davison Aneke DJ
Leaburn
You’re not gonna like this if you’re one of the negative Norris’ but the fact that the latter is our second XI shows we are stronger than we have been for a good few years, could we even fill a second XI in the last five years or so.
Not sure about that. How many of those players in the second XI would you be happy with playing 25+ games. Aneke is the only proven decent player
Ideally none of them because it’s our second XI.
When did we last have a stronger second XI, in league one?
On paper 2 years ago was stronger. I think the opposite, that second XI looks weak. Ness and Claydon out of position, Leaburn young and Gilbey, Morgan, Davison and DJ not particularly good.
It’s our second XI, as I said we’ve barely been able to make one in recent times. And Gilbey, Morgan and DJ whatever you think of them are decent for a reserve XI.
For the 4th game of preseason were looking very poor, generally can't see this formation/ style of play lasting long as we just haven't got the players to play it properly
Or we could give them time to adapt for the style and grow into the game before writing them off?
Listen I aint writing anyone off but can you honestly say we have the players to play this formation, stockly looks like a lost puppy running around so does dobson
I think it’s too early to be so certain. We play in a league in which Hull were promoted with Magennis as a lone striker. You don’t need every player to be a perfect fit for every role.
What style of football did they play/ want to play?
I don’t know but whatever it was he’d have been required to hold up the ball despite not being a technical player.
Looks like 4-3-3. As has been said before the biggest question is how the three CMs set up. I’d be surprised if the others line up differently.
Wollacott
Clare Inniss O’Connell Sessegnon
Dobson
JFC Fraser
CBT Kirk
Stockley
Second half if we sub on entire team
CM
Ness Lavelle Elerewe Clayden
Gilbey Morgan
Davison Aneke DJ
Leaburn
You’re not gonna like this if you’re one of the negative Norris’ but the fact that the latter is our second XI shows we are stronger than we have been for a good few years, could we even fill a second XI in the last five years or so.
Not sure about that. How many of those players in the second XI would you be happy with playing 25+ games. Aneke is the only proven decent player
Ideally none of them because it’s our second XI.
When did we last have a stronger second XI, in league one?
On paper 2 years ago was stronger. I think the opposite, that second XI looks weak. Ness and Claydon out of position, Leaburn young and Gilbey, Morgan, Davison and DJ not particularly good.
It’s our second XI, as I said we’ve barely been able to make one in recent times. And Gilbey, Morgan and DJ whatever you think of them are decent for a reserve XI.
Depends on injuries really. All well and good saying it’s a reserve XI but it’s a long old season. Need a core group of about 14/15 at least, and I’m not sure we’ve got that yet.
He’s about the only one, nothing to get excited about so far, I know it’s all about “minutes” but overall a disappointing first half from a pattern of play and creating chances point of view.
We’ve done the Stockley minutes per goal ratios and records ten times on the rumours thread, at this level he’s a goalscorer, you might not like his style of play and that’s perfectly fine, but I repeat he’s a goalscorer at this level, get over it.
Interesting that JFC has been told he can listen to offers, but Garner clearly sees him as ahead of Morgan and Gilbey even with McGrandles injured.
Or get this... We already announced that those that started last game would not start this game.
No need for the wanky ‘or get this’ is there Dazzler!
I completely understand this XI were announced to start this game because they didn’t start the last one. And that’s not my point at all. My point is that this XI is clearly, if you look at the players, Garners preferred starting line up.
In pre-season when you want you players to gain understanding of playing with each other, especially when introducing a new system, if JFC was going to be gone, surely you would prefer to have another player who will be there gaining that understanding with the players who will play the most.
I know it's only 10 minutes in, but I've seen a bit of our pre season games and I just can't see how Stockley will suit garner ball.
He wont. Stockley needs the ball in the air. You don't see Liverpool & Man City playing with 6ft 4 strikers.
Bringing Garner in should have meant Stockley leaving. Sad but necessary.
Apart from the fact Man City have just signed Haaland.... Guess how tall he is?!
I thought someone would say that.
But Haarland is a goalscorer & is good with his feet. Stockley is neither.
How many goals did Stockley get last season, refresh my memory please, and the three months he was out doesn't count.
13
Why dont you discount the goals he scored with his head if you're going to cherry pick?
I'm not sure what you're referencing when you mentioned cherry picking. I compare strikers against their peers in the League. Not against non League clubs in the cup oflr U23's in the Pizza trophy.
This style of football is not exactly making me look forward to the season. Their first instinct seems to be to pass back, even when we get a free kick. The build up is so slow and then a lump forward. Feels like a lot like last season to me.
Few players seemingly wandering around postions, we´ve had Dobson, JFC, Fraser, Sessegnon and even Stockley end up in the CDM spot, few balls up to Stockley to hold up or flick on, hasnt really been anyone around him (when hes been up there to receive it)
Sutton seem to be treating it more serious, have sussed out that CB´s splitting either side the gk at goal kicks means its likely to be a short ball out.
SOme nice passing but none too many incisive or threatening, havent really got going much tbh.
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Terrible play from Stockley with his feet
Not giving up on him becoming Jann Stocklogant just yet.
lots of space in the middle, Dobson not seemingly continuing with his CDM role as much as he used to with Fraser covering there at times.
kirk looks good but not getting much service, home and sessegnon could work well together.
id be keep to see Leaburn up top with stockley second half, replacing JFC
Positionally he's wandered into the centre too much, leaving us really vulnerable down his side. Much prefers his right foot too
CAFC appear to hate left backs who naturally play left back.
We look ordinary and no one is busting a gut in this heat.
Sutton seem to be treating it more serious, have sussed out that CB´s splitting either side the gk at goal kicks means its likely to be a short ball out.
SOme nice passing but none too many incisive or threatening, havent really got going much tbh.
And whisper, it without Morgan and Gilbey our midfield has looked a bit static