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Wimbledon 2022

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Born in South Africa. 

    Raised in New Zealand. 

    Went to University in the US. 

    We'll still claim him  ;)
    Why wouldn't we? I don't think his 3 years in RSA have had much influence on his tennis career...yes I know NZ was somewhat different. At least both parents are British.

    Let's not send him back with Stokes!
    Not entirely comparable

    Norrie came over aged 16, already a junior tennis player. He chose to  represent GB, partially for financial reasons
    Stokes came over aged 12, so a lot of his cricket development was over here. There was no question over which country he'd represent

    Norrie to me is like Rusedski. I liked Rusedski, but hard to get quite so patriotic about his success as with Henman or Murray
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,436
    Born in South Africa. 

    Raised in New Zealand. 

    Went to University in the US. 

    We'll still claim him  ;)
    Why wouldn't we? I don't think his 3 years in RSA have had much influence on his tennis career...yes I know NZ was somewhat different. At least both parents are British.

    Let's not send him back with Stokes!
    Not entirely comparable

    Norrie came over aged 16, already a junior tennis player. He chose to  represent GB, partially for financial reasons
    Stokes came over aged 12, so a lot of his cricket development was over here. There was no question over which country he'd represent

    Norrie to me is like Rusedski. I liked Rusedski, but hard to get quite so patriotic about his success as with Henman or Murray
    Doesn't make Norrie less British.

    I don"t think both Rusedki's father was British and he was 22 when he moved
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Born in South Africa. 

    Raised in New Zealand. 

    Went to University in the US. 

    We'll still claim him  ;)
    Why wouldn't we? I don't think his 3 years in RSA have had much influence on his tennis career...yes I know NZ was somewhat different. At least both parents are British.

    Let's not send him back with Stokes!
    Not entirely comparable

    Norrie came over aged 16, already a junior tennis player. He chose to  represent GB, partially for financial reasons
    Stokes came over aged 12, so a lot of his cricket development was over here. There was no question over which country he'd represent

    Norrie to me is like Rusedski. I liked Rusedski, but hard to get quite so patriotic about his success as with Henman or Murray
    Both of Norrie's parents are British, you forgot that he spent 4 years at college in the states.  He really is a citizen of nowhere and a citizen of everywhere.

    I would say he is more British than he is anything else.  He probably sees himself that way as well.  Maybe we should subject him to the Norman Tebbit test?  Got all bases covered for that this summer 😜 
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,517
    Half Welsh, half Scottish.
    Hope he can give Novax a decent match.
  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 11,775
    Born in South Africa. 

    Raised in New Zealand. 

    Went to University in the US. 

    We'll still claim him  ;)
    British parents. If you are British then he’s as British as you. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    edited July 2022
    I know he won't but it'll be amusing if Kyrgios wins the whole thing just to see people lose their shit. He'd probably walk out for the final in an outfit that old Mexican keeper Jorge Campos used to wear just to get a reaction.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Rob said:
    Born in South Africa. 

    Raised in New Zealand. 

    Went to University in the US. 

    We'll still claim him  ;)
    British parents. If you are British then he’s as British as you. 
    Surely it's where you are brought up which is more important though? Neither of Emma Raducanu's parents are British, but having lived here since she was 2, she's far more British than Norrie. 
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,410
    Rob said:
    Born in South Africa. 

    Raised in New Zealand. 

    Went to University in the US. 

    We'll still claim him  ;)
    British parents. If you are British then he’s as British as you. 
    Surely it's where you are brought up which is more important though? Neither of Emma Raducanu's parents are British, but having lived here since she was 2, she's far more British than Norrie. 
    This debate is painful, you can look at it any way you want. Norrie has 2 British parents and considers himself british so thats all that matters. Emma has been here most of her life so also british, this whole stigma of british if they win , not if they lose. equally trying to discredit players when they make the semis, get over yourselves its boring
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,767
    edited July 2022
    FFS not this “are they really British” thing again. We had the same sort of bullshit when Raducanu won the US Open. Drives me insane. 
    If they have the right to British citizenship and they want to identify as such, then it’s enough. Same as if anyone has the legal right to and chooses to represent any other country for whatever reason.

    Why do people feel they have to undermine this?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Rob said:
    Born in South Africa. 

    Raised in New Zealand. 

    Went to University in the US. 

    We'll still claim him  ;)
    British parents. If you are British then he’s as British as you. 
    Surely it's where you are brought up which is more important though? Neither of Emma Raducanu's parents are British, but having lived here since she was 2, she's far more British than Norrie. 
    This debate is painful, you can look at it any way you want. Norrie has 2 British parents and considers himself british so thats all that matters. Emma has been here most of her life so also british, this whole stigma of british if they win , not if they lose. equally trying to discredit players when they make the semis, get over yourselves its boring
    Not discrediting him at all, just pointing out why I don't especially care that he's reached the semis. I'm happy for him personally, and hope he beats Novak, but certainly won't be "flag waving". 
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  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,410
    Rob said:
    Born in South Africa. 

    Raised in New Zealand. 

    Went to University in the US. 

    We'll still claim him  ;)
    British parents. If you are British then he’s as British as you. 
    Surely it's where you are brought up which is more important though? Neither of Emma Raducanu's parents are British, but having lived here since she was 2, she's far more British than Norrie. 
    This debate is painful, you can look at it any way you want. Norrie has 2 British parents and considers himself british so thats all that matters. Emma has been here most of her life so also british, this whole stigma of british if they win , not if they lose. equally trying to discredit players when they make the semis, get over yourselves its boring
    Not discrediting him at all, just pointing out why I don't especially care that he's reached the semis. I'm happy for him personally, and hope he beats Novak, but certainly won't be "flag waving". 
    Each to their own i guess, i will be cheering him on regardless :) 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445
    edited July 2022
    I think the main thing is how ridiculous it is to only be able to support people because they were born or raised on the same bit of rock as you. 

    Who cares who is British or not. If he wants to be British he can be. Same for anyone else. 
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,436
    I think the main thing is how ridiculous it is to only be able to support people because they were born or raised on the same bit of rock as you. 

    Who cares who is British or not. If he wants to be British he can be. Same for anyone else. 
    Not everyone can be British if they want!

    They actually had to change the nationality act to prevent mis-use of children being born here etc now. Nationality is quite  complicated!
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    Halep and Djokovic singles winners for me
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    Very disappointed with Anisimova. Made me take notice in her last couple of rounds but she's been completely outclassed today.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,031
    I think the main thing is how ridiculous it is to only be able to support people because they were born or raised on the same bit of rock as you. 

    Who cares who is British or not. If he wants to be British he can be. Same for anyone else. 
    Disagree, I feel a sense of pride and excitement if a British sportsperson achieves something special. I don’t know why, I just do. And that includes being excited that Norrie made it to the semi-finals of Wimbledon because he is, unquestionably, British.

  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,943
    Halep and Djokovic singles winners for me
    Same, Jabeur & Nadal losing finalists.

    Would be happy with either Halep or Jabeur winning, but really hope Djokovic doesn't.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,436
    Halep and Djokovic singles winners for me
    Same, Jabeur & Nadal losing finalists.

    Would be happy with either Halep or Jabeur winning, but really hope Djokovic doesn't.
    What if it was between Novax & Nomanners?
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    Rybakina will give Halep a tough game in the semis .. a real little n large contest 
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  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,943
    Halep and Djokovic singles winners for me
    Same, Jabeur & Nadal losing finalists.

    Would be happy with either Halep or Jabeur winning, but really hope Djokovic doesn't.
    What if it was between Novax & Nomanners?
    Kyrgios all the way, would be quite funny.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    Fritz fights back from 3-1 down to take the first set 6-3 over Nadal.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    Kyrgios had a wobble to start but he's back on serve in the first set.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    Nadal breaks early in the second set for 2-0.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    Fritz gets the break back from Nadal. Something not quite right with Rafa today it seems...
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    Like to see Fritz win this, make a change to see someone different in the semis .. 
  • Kyrgios had a wobble to start but he's back on serve in the first set.
    Kyrgios now a set and a break up
  • Fritz gets the break back from Nadal. Something not quite right with Rafa today it seems...
    Considering his struggles with his foot injury it's a minor miracle he even gets out on the court.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,943
    Like to see Fritz win this, make a change to see someone different in the semis .. 
    Still worried its just opening up for Djokovic.

    If only Sinner could have carried on winning yesterday, Sinner/Norrie, Kyrgios/Fritz could have been refreshing.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    edited July 2022
    I think Nadal needs to win this set. If he can then it's level, but if Fritz wins then at 2-0 down Nadal might decide he can't go 5 sets with his injury.

    EDIT: and he does. 1-1 now.

    Kyrgios is 2-0 up.