Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.
He is a nice bloke! Half of the claims about him running the recruitment also aren’t true. He oversees a team of people who scout. He implements some analytical software that many clubs in the leagues above us use. He isn’t looking to get into scouting or certainly management/coaching like some have said…
it feels like we just always need a scape goat. And now Roddy’s gone, it’s Martin.
Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.
He is a nice bloke! Half of the claims about him running the recruitment also aren’t true. He oversees a team of people who scout. He implements some analytical software that many clubs in the leagues above us use. He isn’t looking to get into scouting or certainly management/coaching like some have said…
it feels like we just always need a scape goat. And now Roddy’s gone, it’s Martin.
It's been a week today since JJ got sacked, and TS should have made an appointment by now.
The fact that he hasn't shows that it was a petulant, unplanned, ill-thought out sacking.
I'm curious as to why you think this.
I literally just said this to someone.
When Roland employed Luzon/Riga i cant remember which its blurred that time, everyone was moaning saying it was to quick him and KM didnt do a good enough search.
So why now TS is looking properly is it apparently to long.
Surely its better he gets the correct appointment even if it takes 7-14 days from the day JJ was sacked?
Are you just looking for a reason to moan? A stick to beat TS with?
We are not the only club without a manager atm
Lincoln haven't had a manager for 10 days Fleetwood magical 7 day(according to you) is up tomorrow.
Does that mean they have been poorly managed or do they not count, as Ts doesn't own them
I've come in for criticism here so I shall explain my reasoning:
It had been clear for several months that we weren't going either up or down a division. For those last few months we were generally in 13th- 17th place, weren't we? Therefore TS either thought: A. This is bad but I trust that JJ can sort it out for next season. B. This is bad and I need to change manager.
If it were B then he should have replaced him with a month or more to go so that the new manager can make his assessments. If it were A then he appears to have changed his mind at the last minute, probably due to the Ipswich result. My opinion is that this is what's happened. That's why I call it a petulant decision. It can't be because of our final position as we finished the season in almost the highest position we'd reached all season.
I may be wrong. What I know for sure was that I thought TS was great when he bought the club and I'm still thankful for that. What I now think is that he doesn't have a clue how to run a football club, and that we'll finish lower next season and then the next and so on until he changes his ways.
Most fans think it's B. The reason being Washington was as good as told this a few weeks before the Ipswich game. The most likely reason JJ wasn't sacked sooner, was because TS would have had to pay out less (if any) compensation by waiting until the season ended and JJ had "failed" the agreed contract.
Fair enough but it's now two weeks since he sacked Jackson and he still hasn't appointed a new manager. If it's B then he should have appointed someone by now. The only good reason why not would be if it's a manager of a play-off team.
Perhaps 'most fans' are wrong and it's A.
Or some candidates have been away for a short break after the season ended, like Jackson did.
Or some are coaches at Prem clubs so their season hasn’t ended
Or we were negotiating but someone turned it down (more of a bad reason but could be the case)
etc
Or we are still interviewing candidates,
Or we are still negotiating terms,
Or numerous other possible reasons.
But guaranteed it isn't true, that the only possible reason we haven't appointed a manager, is because they are a manager of a play off team. It's one of many possibilities.
Gareth Ainsworth would be nice, although I imagine he is on a big contract at Wycombe.
Wycombe mainly play ‘shithouse’ football. Can’t stand ‘em.
It's been a week today since JJ got sacked, and TS should have made an appointment by now.
The fact that he hasn't shows that it was a petulant, unplanned, ill-thought out sacking.
I'm curious as to why you think this.
I literally just said this to someone.
When Roland employed Luzon/Riga i cant remember which its blurred that time, everyone was moaning saying it was to quick him and KM didnt do a good enough search.
So why now TS is looking properly is it apparently to long.
Surely its better he gets the correct appointment even if it takes 7-14 days from the day JJ was sacked?
Are you just looking for a reason to moan? A stick to beat TS with?
We are not the only club without a manager atm
Lincoln haven't had a manager for 10 days Fleetwood magical 7 day(according to you) is up tomorrow.
Does that mean they have been poorly managed or do they not count, as Ts doesn't own them
I've come in for criticism here so I shall explain my reasoning:
It had been clear for several months that we weren't going either up or down a division. For those last few months we were generally in 13th- 17th place, weren't we? Therefore TS either thought: A. This is bad but I trust that JJ can sort it out for next season. B. This is bad and I need to change manager.
If it were B then he should have replaced him with a month or more to go so that the new manager can make his assessments. If it were A then he appears to have changed his mind at the last minute, probably due to the Ipswich result. My opinion is that this is what's happened. That's why I call it a petulant decision. It can't be because of our final position as we finished the season in almost the highest position we'd reached all season.
I may be wrong. What I know for sure was that I thought TS was great when he bought the club and I'm still thankful for that. What I now think is that he doesn't have a clue how to run a football club, and that we'll finish lower next season and then the next and so on until he changes his ways.
Most fans think it's B. The reason being Washington was as good as told this a few weeks before the Ipswich game. The most likely reason JJ wasn't sacked sooner, was because TS would have had to pay out less (if any) compensation by waiting until the season ended and JJ had "failed" the agreed contract.
Fair enough but it's now two weeks since he sacked Jackson and he still hasn't appointed a new manager. If it's B then he should have appointed someone by now. The only good reason why not would be if it's a manager of a play-off team.
Perhaps 'most fans' are wrong and it's A.
Or some candidates have been away for a short break after the season ended, like Jackson did.
Or some are coaches at Prem clubs so their season hasn’t ended
Or we were negotiating but someone turned it down (more of a bad reason but could be the case)
etc
Or we are still interviewing candidates,
Or we are still negotiating terms,
Or numerous other possible reasons.
But guaranteed it isn't true, that the only possible reason we haven't appointed a manager, is because they are a manager of a play off team. It's one of many possibilities.
Gareth Ainsworth would be nice, although I imagine he is on a big contract at Wycombe.
Wycombe mainly play ‘shithouse’ football. Can’t stand ‘em.
I play football with a physio of a league one club, was not complimentary at all about Ainsworth as a person.
Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.
He is a nice bloke! Half of the claims about him running the recruitment also aren’t true. He oversees a team of people who scout. He implements some analytical software that many clubs in the leagues above us use. He isn’t looking to get into scouting or certainly management/coaching like some have said…
it feels like we just always need a scape goat. And now Roddy’s gone, it’s Martin.
That may all be true but that's not what his dad keeps saying. There is no one other than Thomas to blame for the accusation that Martin is in charge of recruitment because he keeps saying it.
Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.
He is a nice bloke! Half of the claims about him running the recruitment also aren’t true. He oversees a team of people who scout. He implements some analytical software that many clubs in the leagues above us use. He isn’t looking to get into scouting or certainly management/coaching like some have said…
it feels like we just always need a scape goat. And now Roddy’s gone, it’s Martin.
They may all be true but that's not what his dad keeps saying. There is no one other than Thomas to blame for the accusation that Martin is in charge of recruitment because he keeps saying it.
You’re right, it’s my opinion that Thomas’s messaging isn’t helping the situation and is spiralling things out of control. If you look at Charlton twitter these days you’d think ESI owned us still 😂
Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.
He is a nice bloke! Half of the claims about him running the recruitment also aren’t true. He oversees a team of people who scout. He implements some analytical software that many clubs in the leagues above us use. He isn’t looking to get into scouting or certainly management/coaching like some have said…
it feels like we just always need a scape goat. And now Roddy’s gone, it’s Martin.
The his dad should have explained his role better.
Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.
He is a nice bloke! Half of the claims about him running the recruitment also aren’t true. He oversees a team of people who scout. He implements some analytical software that many clubs in the leagues above us use. He isn’t looking to get into scouting or certainly management/coaching like some have said…
it feels like we just always need a scape goat. And now Roddy’s gone, it’s Martin.
The his dad should have explained his role better.
I agree. Just passing on what I know. I’m all for criticism of the ownership, but I know some of the criticism isn’t strictly fair.
Poor old Martin, he gets a bit of a kicking on here, he’s probably a really nice bloke.
He is a nice bloke! Half of the claims about him running the recruitment also aren’t true. He oversees a team of people who scout. He implements some analytical software that many clubs in the leagues above us use. He isn’t looking to get into scouting or certainly management/coaching like some have said…
it feels like we just always need a scape goat. And now Roddy’s gone, it’s Martin.
I am not sure what Martin Sandgaard does, or any detail at all as to why he is disparaged, although I am sure people will reasonably say others could do whatever MS is supposed to do much better, but beyond that what damage to good stuff balance is there? I certainly don’t know. However what does make sense to me is Thomas Sandgaard having somebody in location he can trust, and to be honest I don’t blame him.
The clock is ticking, the team is sparse, it’s pretty clear that there wasn’t a plan in place two weeks ago and the well intentioned father / son team are giving every indication that they will be involved in recruitment and tactics.
It’s getting more difficult to remain positive and I wonder how many lessons have actually been learned.
Exactly this. 3 very good teams coming down, 7 good sides staying down and a couple of interesting newbies coming up. This squad core is not capable in its current form of competing for top 6 and will be increasingly less likely to without football management and knowledge being applied to them via a good coach with a say in what and who is needed (and how we play). And that has to be a build for promotion and for staying up if it ever happens.
Somebody I don't know has told me about a few people he doesn't know, who have mentioned other unknown people having talks and nobody knows what these talks are about.
Listen, I'm not putting two and two together but just passing it on. So, please don't shoot the messenger.
Personally I would be happy with Warburton, Beale or Taylor. But I've got a feeling it won't be any of these and we will all be underwhelmed with the new manager. Not Itk just a feeling.
Somebody I don't know has told me about a few people he doesn't know, who have mentioned other unknown people having talks and nobody knows what these talks are about.
Listen, I'm not putting two and two together but just passing it on. So, please don't shoot the messenger.
Bloody hell it must be true, because I heard that to…..
Personally I would be happy with Warburton, Beale or Taylor. But I've got a feeling it won't be any of these and we will all be underwhelmed with the new manager. Not Itk just a feeling.
Personally I would be happy with Warburton, Beale or Taylor. But I've got a feeling it won't be any of these and we will all be underwhelmed with the new manager. Not Itk just a feeling.
Personally, I am not sure Taylor is the best choice, has done a cracking job at Exeter, but I think Charlton might be a job too big for him..
My personal choice would be Michael Beale, no experience of managing yet, but has expeirence of working within big clubs and high expectations, I feel he has learned the trade, understanding of different styles and approaches from different managers and coaches.
Respect that view but don't want Beale personally. He comes across as an exceptional football coach but being a manager is a different skillset. He could easily be a Les Reed in waiting.
Could we do with an exceptional football coach?
It sounds to me a bit like the Sandgaaards are looking for a Head Coach rather than manager.
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it feels like we just always need a scape goat. And now Roddy’s gone, it’s Martin.
You might want one of these
I certainly don’t know.
However what does make sense to me is Thomas Sandgaard having somebody in location he can trust, and to be honest I don’t blame him.
Listen, I'm not putting two and two together but just passing it on. So, please don't shoot the messenger.
Surprised no-one has realised that. It's how us big Clubs work*.
*Source: data analysis black box (aka the Sandgaard-a-tron)
But I've got a feeling it won't be any of these and we will all be underwhelmed with the new manager.
Not Itk just a feeling.
Strikers top priority for Exeter City this summer for Matt Taylor
https://www.devonlive.com/sport/football/football-news/strikers-top-priority-exeter-city-7091919.amp
Nice to see a manager ready for the coming season
It sounds to me a bit like the Sandgaaards are looking for a Head Coach rather than manager.