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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

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  • So, sorry to say this but it is WIOTOS, it will be a big photoshoot with all the protagonists present and Thomas in the middle giving it large like he always does..
    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/605321c7de27c/charlton-appoint-nigel-adkins-as-manager
    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/61bc776d49038/johnnie-jackson-appointed-as-the-clubs-permanent-manager
    Thomas wasn't even in the country when either of them were announced was he?
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    Didn't something similar happen with the signing of Sam Lavelle? 

    We pretty much had the deal tied up but then kept him waiting as we was enquiring on another target then that fell though so we signed Sam last minute. 

    It all seems a bit chaotic to me that we might have a agreement with Ben in some sorts but we are still potentially looking for someone higher profile maybe but have Ben if we can't? 
  • LouisMend said:
    Sue Perkins is a Charlton fan for what it’s worth 
    Thought it was her Dad who was the fan.
    Not sure she’s into football tbh.
  • No deal is done till it’s done. Didn’t the journalist from Swindon say that the assistant coaches where being interviewed on Skype?
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    LouisMend said:
    Sue Perkins is a Charlton fan for what it’s worth 

    Thanks for that exclusive @LouisMend but any information on our latest manager; a cryptic clue in the style of Doctor Raelynn Maloney will do on this grey damp morning.
  • AddickRam said:
    Didn't something similar happen with the signing of Sam Lavelle? 

    We pretty much had the deal tied up but then kept him waiting as we was enquiring on another target then that fell though so we signed Sam last minute. 

    It all seems a bit chaotic to me that we might have a agreement with Ben in some sorts but we are still potentially looking for someone higher profile maybe but have Ben if we can't? 
    That’s what I’m guessing or that we haven’t made our mind up yet. And the story has come out because Swindon have leaked it as they want clarity for themselves. And we have done all the negotiation and compensation so that we can move quickly if we do decide to go with Garner 
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  • Didn’t Cawley think of asking any supplementary questions to clarify things? I think most of us assumed that everything is tied up other than the agreeing compensation with Swindon for the back room staff, and when that has been done he will formally sign the contract.
    If he didn’t ask any follow up questions he is not much of a journalist, but maybe the answers would not have got the same response. Now that is what a good journalist would do. One like Cawley.


  • Anyway, this thread summed up in a meme 
  • wmcf123 said:
    https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ben-garner-opens-up-very-5378191

    Reading this Garner felt he wasn't given enough time at Bristol Rovers.

    I wonder if the fans will give him time if it starts badly or indeed if TS will. 


    It will take a lot of time to get Lavelle and Purrington passing out from the back 
    Agreed.

    Its the old adage 'you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear'.  


        
  • AddickRam said:
    Didn't something similar happen with the signing of Sam Lavelle? 

    We pretty much had the deal tied up but then kept him waiting as we was enquiring on another target then that fell though so we signed Sam last minute. 

    It all seems a bit chaotic to me that we might have a agreement with Ben in some sorts but we are still potentially looking for someone higher profile maybe but have Ben if we can't? 
    or trying to get someone cheaper
  • It's probably a two year deal subject to meeting performance based targets, not just a straight two years. Garner has had success with the support of his coaching team - what if they fail  the Skype interview?
  • Doctor Raelynn Maloney is an anagram of Carroty Lemonade nylon.
    A new concoction after Sue Perkins canapés, but made with a kind of plastic.
  • AddickRam said:
    Didn't something similar happen with the signing of Sam Lavelle? 

    We pretty much had the deal tied up but then kept him waiting as we was enquiring on another target then that fell though so we signed Sam last minute. 

    It all seems a bit chaotic to me that we might have a agreement with Ben in some sorts but we are still potentially looking for someone higher profile maybe but have Ben if we can't? 

    I'm sure on Zoom, Steve Gallen said the St Johnstone captain was the first choice but when he when to Wigan, Sam Lavelle was the next to go on the famous 1to5 list that Steve has. 
  • Gribbo said:
    Fasten your seatbelts everyone 
    That’s actually quite frustrating as I really was getting behind the idea of him as manager, what’s going on here 
    Fasten your seatbelts everyone 
    That’s actually quite frustrating as I really was getting behind the idea of him as manager, what’s going on here 
    Who is  Raelynn Maloney?
    TS"s other half
    And people used to moan when Southall's missus would pop up & have a go at the fans.

    Seems like nothing has changed. 
  • I think the Sandgaard lot just don’t really understand how the football media works. It’s fair enough to an extent, it runs like an absolute insane asylum. Foreign owners and managers (though typically less so these days) are often surprised by the levels of scrutiny, leaks and focus on the day to day. I imagine the reason they keep piping up is because the reports aren’t technically true; I reckon no deal with Garner is agreed until his coaches are also on board, so as far as they’re concerned the story isn’t accurate. There’s not really any reason to not let the story sit there slightly incorrect though, and it really doesn’t help to have them being so contradictory in public. It’s been long enough that they should just adapt to the media. They suck, it’s annoying, let it go Sandgaards
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  • Rothko said:


    Anyway, this thread summed up in a meme 
    Why have you just leaked Ben Garner explaining how he wants the players to play.
  • LouisMend said:
    Sue Perkins is a Charlton fan for what it’s worth 
    Thought it was her Dad who was the fan.
    Not sure she’s into football tbh.
    I spoke to her a few years back, she said with her dad and brothers she hadn't got a choice.  Think she follows us vicariously through her family rather than avidly.
  • Quantum physics can explain the situation very simply. At any given moment Garner has both signed and not signed. The more he has signed the less he has signed and obviously vice versa. I don’t get all the confusion. 

    Bravo @KiwiValley
    Quantum mechanics is the meaning of life. The signing of Ben Garner can only happen when no one is watching. This is Heisenberg uncertainty principle meets Schrödinger's cat. Charlton's fate being linked to a random subatomic event that may or may not occur.

    Relax . It has always happened and also will never happen. I should add that The illusion of self once dispelled  releases all Charlton fans from causality and critically hope. The absence of hope is immortality for it is hope that kills. . Live laugh and be happy also do not. 
  • Dazzler21 said:
    shirty5 said:
    shirty5 said:
    Her post doesn't mean Garner isn't signing. Cawley says he's agreed a 2 year deal. She says that's not correct. Doesn't mean he isn't signing, it could mean that he's agreed a 3 year deal!
    Whatever the reason is, it now just winds everybody up and no one knows what is going on. 

    Would have been for the best if Mrs Sandgaard had not said a thing and we would have found out early this week what’s being announced. 

    Can’t understand why she would do that. 
    But if she knows the information to be false, then why can't she say anything? She's certainly closer to the deal makers than Cawley is.
    Then do it through the official club channels. 
    For me it’s mainly the ambiguity of the statement. A tweet saying ‘Understand this not to be correct’ sounds like something you would hear RonnieMoore write on here.
    It was in response to Cawley saying:
    "Understand that to be correct"

    Could be any one detail that is incorrect, term, salary, structure etc

    I have a feeling neither TS or Mrs TS appreciate Cawley reaching out to leaks in the club rather than contacting direct.
    It’s amateurish. If they have an issue with anything Rich puts out they can very easily contact him privately or they can publish a statement via the club setting the record straight if necessary.

    This smacks of “we’ll decide what is said and when” and that’s a battle they will never win.

    More important, if you’re “still interviewing” five weeks after your own decision to remove the manager I’d suggest you have a bigger problem.
    Just suppose an earlier target from the A list that for whatever reason didn’t happen suddenly came back into view as a possibility ? What would you do as the owner, follow that avenue to see where it leads or let it drop. Nothing it would appear has ink on it so until it has either party can walk away. This is without doubt the most important appointment in Charltons recent history. Sandgaard has to get this right or at least be a thorough as is possible. Far too many people are being critical and those self same people will find fault whatever the outcome. 
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    So, sorry to say this but it is WIOTOS, it will be a big photoshoot with all the protagonists present and Thomas in the middle giving it large like he always does..
    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/605321c7de27c/charlton-appoint-nigel-adkins-as-manager
    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/61bc776d49038/johnnie-jackson-appointed-as-the-clubs-permanent-manager

    Shucks, it looks like I failed big time..humble pie being eaten as we speak..mind a few words cut and pasted from the whole post eh,..do i get an assist for the likes.. B)
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