New manager won’t be Michael Beale, he’s been given permission by Villa to speak to QPR.
Big miss IMO but unlikely to have happened given our League 1 status
Plus his salary … was way out of league one
His salary at Villa was less than Adkins was on here and very similar to what Bowyer was on.
Sure i read somewhere (which of course doesn't mean it's true) that Beale is on around 600k a year at Villa. I'd find it hard to believe that Adkins who'd been out of work for 2 years was on more than that.
I believe it was reported at the time Bowyer signed his new contract, Roland was paying him £400k pa.
And the contract Southall gave him was more than that.
Thanks for joining the interview last week. We are delighted to offer you the job at Thomas Sandgaard's Charlton Athletic Football Club.
Here are the terms:
Position: Head Coach Salary: 5k per week Period 2-year contract
Conditions:
You must achieve a top 6 finish. Failure to do so will result in a 1-month pay-off and immediate termination of your contract.
You will have no say in recruitment, which will be run by Thomas's son, Martin Sandgaard. However, you are expected to get results with the team he puts together, or else you will be sacked.
I've said (repeatedly) that Sandgaard is trying to bring his successful business principles into our world of football.
On that basis, I thought I'd take a look at the Job descriptions for current vacancies on his Zynex website.
Almost 90% of his 227 vacancies are for Medical Device Sales reps. and here's the wording he has used (italics and bold text are his, not mine):
Do you want to join a successful fast-paced growing company with opportunity to help patients and make money?
The Zynex mission is to improve the life-quality of patients suffering from debilitating pain. We are seeking: Self-confident, self-starting, resourceful, assertive, and persuasive individuals who will promote and generate prescriptions from physical therapists and pain management doctors for our NexWave pain management device. The NexWave is an alternative to opioid pain medications. You must be able to buildloyalty with clinicians and doctors developing your prescription-based stream of business. Able to demonstrate influencing and sales skills, andyou must possess the drive and discipline to accomplish goals on a weekly basis. Previous sales experience is a plus, but you may qualify based on a strong desire to be the best. Requirements: Must have reliable transportation, valid driver’s license, and mobile phone. We offer training, a generous base salary, uncapped commissions, benefits, with a $20,000 sign-on bonus and management support for your success.
What I will highlight is this:
"you must possess the drive and discipline to accomplish goals on a weekly basis"
I'm pretty sure that this performance-related approach did for Jackson, and Sandgaard won't let that approach go. "Hey, it works in the business world, so why not use it here? Football is no different."
This is where Sandgaard needs to take advice. To find the middle ground.
Yes, have your performance targets. No problem with that. But any contract needs to include agreed caveats (on both sides), clearly identified extenuating circumstances (on both sides) and a mechanism to review if and when the unexpected happens (on both sides).
This is not typical practice in medical sales ... you either deliver or get the boot.
I suspect that our new manager hiring process is suffering from this type of inflexibility.
Surely any manager with an ounce of sense won't agree to performance-related clauses when they have no control over recruitment.
Which is why, imo, we still don’t have one.
No manager, half a squad and the season starts earlier than ever before, but better not suggest other clubs are ahead of us.
Ben Garner took over Swindon with about 7 players and after Bristol Rovers didn't work out he didn't have many options of getting a manager's job in the EFL. Charlton would be a step up despite the implosion of the last decade or so at Cafc.
Just a gut instinct but ever since JJ left I have been convinced that the decision would be made on the 31/5 or 1/6.
I believe Cawley contacts have given him the correct information and unless Thomas Sandgaard has done a U-turn because of the initial negativity when RC did the scoop then Ben Garner will be the next person in the hot seat.
It ain't done until it's done and so far it ain't done.
People can make up reasons like TS coming over or holidays but the fact remains it's not on the OS here or at Swindon so it's not done.
We know that Michael Beale applied the first time around and had an interview according to Thomas Sandgaard. Thomas then used Michael Beale as a yardstick that we wanted a more ambitious appointment.
So unless Sandgaard tried to head hunt this time why would Beale apply again when his stock is high and he can get a job in the Championship ?
Being interviewed doesn’t necessarily mean he applied. A phone call by Charlton to Beale asking for a chat could have been what happened.
Why are we assuming that the manager has no say in the transfers?
Thomas has said it's Sandgaard junior that identifies new players and Gallen does the negotiations with their clubs and agents. Not sure where that leaves the manager but it could be a reason why we haven't appointed one yet.
Looks like Garner on holiday that’s what the delay is ….
Well as the child says on ittv, he comes on here lights the touch paper & stands back to see how many bite. I think he maybe on a winner with this one.
Looks like Garner on holiday that’s what the delay is ….
Well as the child says on ittv, he comes on here lights the touch paper & stands back to see how many bite. I think he maybe on a winner with this one.
So we have been blaming TS for lack of activity in the transfer market and the real reason is because Garner has the cheek to take a holiday 2 months before the season starts. Well, sorry Garner but it is a no from me!
I've said (repeatedly) that Sandgaard is trying to bring his successful business principles into our world of football.
On that basis, I thought I'd take a look at the Job descriptions for current vacancies on his Zynex website.
Almost 90% of his 227 vacancies are for Medical Device Sales reps. and here's the wording he has used (italics and bold text are his, not mine):
Do you want to join a successful fast-paced growing company with opportunity to help patients and make money?
The Zynex mission is to improve the life-quality of patients suffering from debilitating pain. We are seeking: Self-confident, self-starting, resourceful, assertive, and persuasive individuals who will promote and generate prescriptions from physical therapists and pain management doctors for our NexWave pain management device. The NexWave is an alternative to opioid pain medications. You must be able to buildloyalty with clinicians and doctors developing your prescription-based stream of business. Able to demonstrate influencing and sales skills, andyou must possess the drive and discipline to accomplish goals on a weekly basis. Previous sales experience is a plus, but you may qualify based on a strong desire to be the best. Requirements: Must have reliable transportation, valid driver’s license, and mobile phone. We offer training, a generous base salary, uncapped commissions, benefits, with a $20,000 sign-on bonus and management support for your success.
What I will highlight is this:
"you must possess the drive and discipline to accomplish goals on a weekly basis"
I'm pretty sure that this performance-related approach did for Jackson, and Sandgaard won't let that approach go. "Hey, it works in the business world, so why not use it here? Football is no different."
This is where Sandgaard needs to take advice. To find the middle ground.
Yes, have your performance targets. No problem with that. But any contract needs to include agreed caveats (on both sides), clearly identified extenuating circumstances (on both sides) and a mechanism to review if and when the unexpected happens (on both sides).
This is not typical practice in medical sales ... you either deliver or get the boot.
I suspect that our new manager hiring process is suffering from this type of inflexibility.
Very good points here DR. Yes, I wonder whether TS fully appreciated how difficult it was when CA, JS & CW were all injured and our frontline decimated. If he's hooked on weekly targets I wonder what targets he had for JJ during this awful period. I hope he is now getting football advice from football people and not business analysts..
When he was 11 Ben Chorley told me he was going to be a professional footballer. His focus was locked on, and he was right.
When he was 12 Paul Barron told us the same thing about being a goalkeeper He is still a coach and that remark was made in the 60's
Wow, that's a blast from the past! I knew Paul well, played for North Kent schools and Welling United with him. I can remember the game that our regular keeper didn't turn up, Paul went in goal and the rest is history!
I've said (repeatedly) that Sandgaard is trying to bring his successful business principles into our world of football.
On that basis, I thought I'd take a look at the Job descriptions for current vacancies on his Zynex website.
Almost 90% of his 227 vacancies are for Medical Device Sales reps. and here's the wording he has used (italics and bold text are his, not mine):
Do you want to join a successful fast-paced growing company with opportunity to help patients and make money?
The Zynex mission is to improve the life-quality of patients suffering from debilitating pain. We are seeking: Self-confident, self-starting, resourceful, assertive, and persuasive individuals who will promote and generate prescriptions from physical therapists and pain management doctors for our NexWave pain management device. The NexWave is an alternative to opioid pain medications. You must be able to buildloyalty with clinicians and doctors developing your prescription-based stream of business. Able to demonstrate influencing and sales skills, andyou must possess the drive and discipline to accomplish goals on a weekly basis. Previous sales experience is a plus, but you may qualify based on a strong desire to be the best. Requirements: Must have reliable transportation, valid driver’s license, and mobile phone. We offer training, a generous base salary, uncapped commissions, benefits, with a $20,000 sign-on bonus and management support for your success.
What I will highlight is this:
"you must possess the drive and discipline to accomplish goals on a weekly basis"
I'm pretty sure that this performance-related approach did for Jackson, and Sandgaard won't let that approach go. "Hey, it works in the business world, so why not use it here? Football is no different."
This is where Sandgaard needs to take advice. To find the middle ground.
Yes, have your performance targets. No problem with that. But any contract needs to include agreed caveats (on both sides), clearly identified extenuating circumstances (on both sides) and a mechanism to review if and when the unexpected happens (on both sides).
This is not typical practice in medical sales ... you either deliver or get the boot.
I suspect that our new manager hiring process is suffering from this type of inflexibility.
Sounds like the job description for those selling the opioids in the first place. Cosy up to clinicians. Then push the hard sell.
Anyone who has seen the excellent series Dopesick will know what I'm talking about
I've said (repeatedly) that Sandgaard is trying to bring his successful business principles into our world of football.
On that basis, I thought I'd take a look at the Job descriptions for current vacancies on his Zynex website.
Almost 90% of his 227 vacancies are for Medical Device Sales reps. and here's the wording he has used (italics and bold text are his, not mine):
Do you want to join a successful fast-paced growing company with opportunity to help patients and make money?
The Zynex mission is to improve the life-quality of patients suffering from debilitating pain. We are seeking: Self-confident, self-starting, resourceful, assertive, and persuasive individuals who will promote and generate prescriptions from physical therapists and pain management doctors for our NexWave pain management device. The NexWave is an alternative to opioid pain medications. You must be able to buildloyalty with clinicians and doctors developing your prescription-based stream of business. Able to demonstrate influencing and sales skills, andyou must possess the drive and discipline to accomplish goals on a weekly basis. Previous sales experience is a plus, but you may qualify based on a strong desire to be the best. Requirements: Must have reliable transportation, valid driver’s license, and mobile phone. We offer training, a generous base salary, uncapped commissions, benefits, with a $20,000 sign-on bonus and management support for your success.
What I will highlight is this:
"you must possess the drive and discipline to accomplish goals on a weekly basis"
I'm pretty sure that this performance-related approach did for Jackson, and Sandgaard won't let that approach go. "Hey, it works in the business world, so why not use it here? Football is no different."
This is where Sandgaard needs to take advice. To find the middle ground.
Yes, have your performance targets. No problem with that. But any contract needs to include agreed caveats (on both sides), clearly identified extenuating circumstances (on both sides) and a mechanism to review if and when the unexpected happens (on both sides).
This is not typical practice in medical sales ... you either deliver or get the boot.
I suspect that our new manager hiring process is suffering from this type of inflexibility.
Sounds like the job description for those selling the opioids in the first place. Cosy up to clinicians. Then push the hard sell.
Anyone who has seen the excellent series Dopesick will know what I'm talking about
For all this salesman B/S he is not very successful at selling the position of manager for Charlton Athletic,if your point ís about 'due dilligence. One is taking a gamble at suitable employees But in our case ,a suitable employee before a certain deadline There has to be a compromise somewhere along the line, for our position, or else it is going to go tits up --- On a side note, forget the glass half full/empty,American style B/S Common sense tells us, we are in a worse position now, than we were last season. Hope i am wrong
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Not too sure about Wallace and Gromit....heard that Gromit was a bit of a pup...
Thanks for joining the interview last week. We are delighted to offer you the job at Thomas Sandgaard's Charlton Athletic Football Club.
Here are the terms:
Position: Head Coach
Salary: 5k per week
Period 2-year contract
Conditions:
You must achieve a top 6 finish. Failure to do so will result in a 1-month pay-off and immediate termination of your contract.
You will have no say in recruitment, which will be run by Thomas's son, Martin Sandgaard. However, you are expected to get results with the team he puts together, or else you will be sacked.
We look forward to your acceptance!
Yours,
Club Secretary
I've said (repeatedly) that Sandgaard is trying to bring his successful business principles into our world of football.
On that basis, I thought I'd take a look at the Job descriptions for current vacancies on his Zynex website.
Almost 90% of his 227 vacancies are for Medical Device Sales reps. and here's the wording he has used (italics and bold text are his, not mine):
Do you want to join a successful fast-paced growing company with opportunity to help patients and make money?
The Zynex mission is to improve the life-quality of patients suffering from debilitating pain. We are seeking: Self-confident, self-starting, resourceful, assertive, and persuasive individuals who will promote and generate prescriptions from physical therapists and pain management doctors for our NexWave pain management device. The NexWave is an alternative to opioid pain medications. You must be able to build loyalty with clinicians and doctors developing your prescription-based stream of business. Able to demonstrate influencing and sales skills, and you must possess the drive and discipline to accomplish goals on a weekly basis. Previous sales experience is a plus, but you may qualify based on a strong desire to be the best. Requirements: Must have reliable transportation, valid driver’s license, and mobile phone. We offer training, a generous base salary, uncapped commissions, benefits, with a $20,000 sign-on bonus and management support for your success.
What I will highlight is this:
"you must possess the drive and discipline to accomplish goals on a weekly basis"
I'm pretty sure that this performance-related approach did for Jackson, and Sandgaard won't let that approach go. "Hey, it works in the business world, so why not use it here? Football is no different."
This is where Sandgaard needs to take advice. To find the middle ground.
Yes, have your performance targets. No problem with that. But any contract needs to include agreed caveats (on both sides), clearly identified extenuating circumstances (on both sides) and a mechanism to review if and when the unexpected happens (on both sides).
This is not typical practice in medical sales ... you either deliver or get the boot.
I suspect that our new manager hiring process is suffering from this type of inflexibility.
Plot twist idea - Martin turns out not to be Thomas' real son!!!!
People can make up reasons like TS coming over or holidays but the fact remains it's not on the OS here or at Swindon so it's not done.
Could still be or could not happen at all.
Put it another way, if he disagreed with them, do you think he would have allowed them to go out into the public domain?
But that is not the point.
The point is that Sandgaard comes from a world where black-and-white sales targets are the norm.
He was a black box adoption
I'd wager he hasn't got a clue about what is said in any job descriptions or adverts in the public domain. Like 99.9% of CEOs in "big companies".
Not sure where that leaves the manager but it could be a reason why we haven't appointed one yet.
If he's hooked on weekly targets I wonder what targets he had for JJ during this awful period. I hope he is now getting football advice from football people and not business analysts..
Might be half tempted to believe you if it wasn’t for the fact that every other thing you’ve claimed has turned out to be incorrect.
Any news on those incoming players from Plymouth that your relative who owned the local paper told you about a year ago?
Cosy up to clinicians. Then push the hard sell.
Anyone who has seen the excellent series Dopesick will know what I'm talking about
Beale looks like he's going to QPR and that's it.