Well lady’s & Gentlemen I hope I am proved wrong, but I am getting the feeling we will end up with someone far worse the JJ was and more has been crap players on free transfers or loans. so far what has TS actually achieved apart from buy the Club? And he wants premier League football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎
Let me guess you are a glass half empty sort of person.
No actually I own 5 companies and have supported CAFC since 1968. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Welp, that's my non-sequitur of the week.
None-Sequitur a noun is not the correct word but a sense of humour might help 🤣🤣🤣
Looks like Garner on holiday that’s what the delay is ….
No access to emails? No internet for a zoom.
A holiday shouldn't hold up accepting a job.
Would say it’s all been agreed before he went away
Swindon are therefore being very accommodating in these circumstances then as there Manager is clearing off and they have not announced that to their ownnsupporters yet so as not to ruin our own announcement!
As I've been saying for a while, TS the cuddlier/friendlier version of RD whose finding it very difficult to find a manager, that he wants, to work under his set up.
I'm not convinced at this rate it won't be Euell or MS taking the teams to Spain!
MS, behave. That will never ever happen and everyone knows it. It keeps getting mentioned as a way of having a cheap pop at the owner
Looks like Garner on holiday that’s what the delay is ….
No access to emails? No internet for a zoom.
A holiday shouldn't hold up accepting a job.
Would say it’s all been agreed before he went away
Swindon are therefore being very accommodating in these circumstances then as there Manager is clearing off and they have not announced that to their ownnsupporters yet so as not to ruin our own announcement!
Sounds like TS is trying to be over smart with contracts, which is making it tough to close the managers.. performance related, and release clause that wouldn’t cost him much! Managers want to come, but they also need to look after themselves!
Garner compo package was agreed, and were still trying to arrange personal terms, but as they were a long way apart TS started shopping again!
Wouldn’t be surprised if another name enters the race, someone coaching in the premier league! I think by the end of this week we will have our manager!
That’s an interesting post from a known itk poster. Coaching in the PL is likely, I think to be number two somewhere ? Anything less than number two seems unlikely to me. Any names jump out ? SCP is one I suppose but is he number two at The Spuds or Academy?
Don't think it's been suggested (can't be bothered to trawl through all the post's) but the delay could be because Garner has been offered the job but is considering other offers.
Looks like Garner on holiday that’s what the delay is ….
No access to emails? No internet for a zoom.
A holiday shouldn't hold up accepting a job.
Would say it’s all been agreed before he went away
Swindon are therefore being very accommodating in these circumstances then as there Manager is clearing off and they have not announced that to their ownnsupporters yet so as not to ruin our own announcement!
Well lady’s & Gentlemen I hope I am proved wrong, but I am getting the feeling we will end up with someone far worse the JJ was and more has been crap players on free transfers or loans. so far what has TS actually achieved apart from buy the Club? And he wants premier League football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎
Let me guess you are a glass half empty sort of person.
No actually I own 5 companies and have supported CAFC since 1968. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Welp, that's my non-sequitur of the week.
None-Sequitur a noun is not the correct word but a sense of humour might help 🤣🤣🤣
Sounds like TS is trying to include the same clauses that Jacko agreed to. The issue is, Jacko had nothing to lose and everything to gain, someone in a contract already isn’t going to agree to any of that! We are going nowhere next season if this continues to linger on.
every summer I never fail to understand how some people get themselves so worked up on a daily basis based on snippets and rumours. Some will be true, some won’t, but ultimately there’s nothing any of us can do about it.
We’re not playing a competitive game for another couple of months and they’ll probably be plenty of disappointment coming our way then, so just take yourselves down The Winchester till it comes a bit meaningful and don’t stress out on it all.
Charlton ruin most of my year. I’m damned if I’m gonna let it ruin the close season as well.
Sounds like TS is trying to include the same clauses that Jacko agreed to. The issue is, Jacko had nothing to lose and everything to gain, someone in a contract already isn’t going to agree to any of that! We are going nowhere next season if this continues to linger on.
This is another example of where TS needs someone with football experience around him.
Well lady’s & Gentlemen I hope I am proved wrong, but I am getting the feeling we will end up with someone far worse the JJ was and more has been crap players on free transfers or loans. so far what has TS actually achieved apart from buy the Club? And he wants premier League football 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎
Let me guess you are a glass half empty sort of person.
No actually I own 5 companies and have supported CAFC since 1968. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Only since 1968?
Just another Johnny-come-lately. *shakes head in despair*
Surely any manager with an ounce of sense won't agree to performance-related clauses when they have no control over recruitment.
Especially when they already have a job. The only type of manager you’re attracting with a contract like that is another Slade or Adkins. I.e, washed up and out of work.
Thomas initially said it could take up to
preseason to find a suitable replacement. Saying yesterday that they
were still searching within the same time frame is consistent with
that, but two journalists leaked last week that Ben Garner had been
offered a deal subject to final terms being agreed. It probably had, but don’t know who their sources were and Thomas probably didn’t
want it made public then unless he was using Ben as a stalking horse
to gauge public reaction. If so, he can’t think that highly of him.
Whatever the reason, social media went into meltdown with an
outpouring of WTF’ery.
He
knew that when asked about the reports, replying that nothing had
been decided and that they were still interviewing, lots of good
candidates etc. If that initial fan response did sway his thinking,
then as the deal hadn’t been finalised, and with Ben not having
agreed to contract performance related milestones, Thomas kept his options open. I guess he’s just being cautious and didn’t
have the confidence to offer a contract without a performance related
element based on what happened with Nigel the 1st. We
now know of another candidate who was subsequently given permission
to talk to him, let’s call him Nigel the 2nd!
Thomas
can’t control how any of this gets reported by the external media,
hence what we see appears to be mixed messaging, which he seems to
address by answering direct questions put to him using ‘linked in?’
knowing it will end up broadcast more widely.
The
irony is that since Ben Garner was ‘not’ announced, opinions
towards him appear to have softened. I hope Thomas takes that into
account when making a final decision, but whatever happens now, and
assuming Ben doesn’t tell him where to go, from the outside it
appears to be an awful mess and what should be a good news story for
us is rapidly turning into a farce because of, dare I say it,
dithering and delay.
I’m
just offering one possible explanation that seems to fit what I think
I know.
Aren’t all managers jobs performance related, squad or no squad, control or no control? I don’t believe TS had anybody lined up to replace Jacko, but I still believe Jacko lost his job because of the shameful performance at Ipswich, as that event made up Sandgaard’s mind for him. A manager at, say, Oldham can still get sacked with poor performances even with no resources. Yet there will be plenty who would apply even for the job at Oldham. If a manager doesn’t want a performance related contract they can surely look elsewhere.
Aren’t all managers jobs performance related, squad or no squad, control or no control? I don’t believe TS had anybody lined up to replace Jacko, but I still believe Jacko lost his job because of the shameful performance at Ipswich, as that event made up Sandgaard’s mind for him. A manager at, say, Oldham can still get sacked with poor performances even with no resources. Yet there will be plenty who would apply even for the job at Oldham. If a manager doesn’t want a performance related contract they can surely look elsewhere.
Compensation related - you can be sacked at any time but TS wants minimal payoff.
Being in America for many years i suspect that TS does not fully grasp the irony of supporting a football club like ours. We are not blinded by the star studded snake oiled fantasma of tippy tappy breathless media orgasmistic now now now stellar football. It's the local team my grandad and uncles agonised over, they no doubt suffered the same long periods of mediocre interspersed with short green uplands of promise culminating in the fleeting phantom of success soon to be whisked away in front of their eyes. That's what my forbears left me, a grinding gnawing hope that one day just one day...
Surely any manager with an ounce of sense won't agree to performance-related clauses when they have no control over recruitment.
Which is why, imo, we still don’t have one.
No manager, half a squad and the season starts earlier than ever before, but better not suggest other clubs are ahead of us.
Ben Garner took over Swindon with about 7 players and after Bristol Rovers didn't work out he didn't have many options of getting a manager's job in the EFL. Charlton would be a step up despite the implosion of the last decade or so at Cafc.
Just a gut instinct but ever since JJ left I have been convinced that the decision would be made on the 31/5 or 1/6.
I believe Cawley contacts have given him the correct information and unless Thomas Sandgaard has done a U-turn because of the initial negativity when RC did the scoop then Ben Garner will be the next person in the hot seat.
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but a sense of humour might help 🤣🤣🤣
Wouldn't be shocked to see Cameron Archer the young striker that looked good for Preston second half of last season go there.
Or are you just making it up as you go along?
You part-timer.
Just another Johnny-come-lately. *shakes head in despair*
Thomas initially said it could take up to preseason to find a suitable replacement. Saying yesterday that they were still searching within the same time frame is consistent with that, but two journalists leaked last week that Ben Garner had been offered a deal subject to final terms being agreed. It probably had, but don’t know who their sources were and Thomas probably didn’t want it made public then unless he was using Ben as a stalking horse to gauge public reaction. If so, he can’t think that highly of him. Whatever the reason, social media went into meltdown with an outpouring of WTF’ery.
He knew that when asked about the reports, replying that nothing had been decided and that they were still interviewing, lots of good candidates etc. If that initial fan response did sway his thinking, then as the deal hadn’t been finalised, and with Ben not having agreed to contract performance related milestones, Thomas kept his options open. I guess he’s just being cautious and didn’t have the confidence to offer a contract without a performance related element based on what happened with Nigel the 1st. We now know of another candidate who was subsequently given permission to talk to him, let’s call him Nigel the 2nd!
Thomas can’t control how any of this gets reported by the external media, hence what we see appears to be mixed messaging, which he seems to address by answering direct questions put to him using ‘linked in?’ knowing it will end up broadcast more widely.
The irony is that since Ben Garner was ‘not’ announced, opinions towards him appear to have softened. I hope Thomas takes that into account when making a final decision, but whatever happens now, and assuming Ben doesn’t tell him where to go, from the outside it appears to be an awful mess and what should be a good news story for us is rapidly turning into a farce because of, dare I say it, dithering and delay.
I’m just offering one possible explanation that seems to fit what I think I know.
I don’t believe TS had anybody lined up to replace Jacko, but I still believe Jacko lost his job because of the shameful performance at Ipswich, as that event made up Sandgaard’s mind for him.
A manager at, say, Oldham can still get sacked with poor performances even with no resources. Yet there will be plenty who would apply even for the job at Oldham.
If a manager doesn’t want a performance related contract they can surely look elsewhere.
TS is beginning to right royally cheese me off.
Ben Garner took over Swindon with about 7 players and after Bristol Rovers didn't work out he didn't have many options of getting a manager's job in the EFL. Charlton would be a step up despite the implosion of the last decade or so at Cafc.
Just a gut instinct but ever since JJ left I have been convinced that the decision would be made on the 31/5 or 1/6.
I believe Cawley contacts have given him the correct information and unless Thomas Sandgaard has done a U-turn because of the initial negativity when RC did the scoop then Ben Garner will be the next person in the hot seat.