I thought this topic was done to death a few months ago. TS stated somewhere that MS identified the players, SG negotiated the transfer fee and contracts and TS signed it off
Manager identifies the players and positions he wants and SG team does the rest …
precisely what esm says ts said above
Not quite Billy, I said MS identifies the players not the manager.
Take no notice of what RonnieMoore says, he is a know nothing plum.
As boring and easy an explanation as it is, I’m guessing if it’s a done deal with Garner, TS wants to come over have a face to face and be here for the announcement, which I think is the right thing to do. If TS wasn’t here for it people would jump on his back and say he doesn’t care.🤷🏻♂️, if it is Garner, I don’t have a clue about him which really doesn’t matter as long as he gives me an enjoyable winning team to support, the same will apply for whomever takes over.
Waiting a week just for an ego wank photo op is juvenile in the extreme. The new manager/head-coach/lickspittlinchief/whatever needs all the time available to assemble something like a squad in the very brief interlude before pre-season rolls around - season starts 29 July don't forget - there's nothing to be gained from sitting on hands and gurning at a photographer, we just need scarfy on the OS WIOTOS (it'll be too naffing late)
I thought this topic was done to death a few months ago. TS stated somewhere that MS identified the players, SG negotiated the transfer fee and contracts and TS signed it off
Manager identifies the players and positions he wants and SG team does the rest …
precisely what esm says ts said above
Not quite Billy, I said MS identifies the players not the manager.
Take no notice of what RonnieMoore says, he is a know nothing plum.
let's add 2 to 2
TS quote "MS identifies the player" Other quote " Manager identifies...etc"
I thought this topic was done to death a few months ago. TS stated somewhere that MS identified the players, SG negotiated the transfer fee and contracts and TS signed it off
Manager identifies the players and positions he wants and SG team does the rest …
precisely what esm says ts said above
Not quite Billy, I said MS identifies the players not the manager.
Take no notice of what RonnieMoore says, he is a know nothing plum.
let's add 2 to 2
TS quote "MS identifies the player" Other quote " Manager identifies...etc"
ergo MS = Manager
Plain as the nose on my face
The way I understood it (and it's the way many other clubs operate) is the manager identifies the type of player they need (e.g. quick striker, very direct, strong) and then the recruitment team identify possible matches, the manager says yes/no, Gallen goes and gets them.
This is the way a lot of clubs run. Kloop didn't go and find Diaz himself. He gave the criteria and the Liverpool backroom team went and found a player fitting that criteria.
For added context, and, because "hUr DuR wHy YOu hAtE MaRTiN tHoUGh" (because apparently that's the reason) a look at the job skills requirement for an U23 performance analyst at Man city (yes I know city are at the elite end of the footballing spectrum
And a job description for a recruitment analyst at spurs:
The interviews that Sandgaard has been having since Crawley put his Graner story out must have been something to behold. I wonder what the first question from the candidate was? Wouldn't be at all surprised if some didn't bother. Hardly a raging success, especially if Garner wasn't your first or second choice anyway. What a shambles we have become.
Anyone considered that Garner isn't happy with the money being offered and that is the delay? #justsaying
That makes it sound uncertain. Don’t think Cawley would had shared anything if it wasn’t very close.
I only rarely get snippets. It comes from someone very close to all this and this is the indication I have just been given. As of yesterday Garner was close to walking away from the deal.
Not saying it won't happen, or that a deal hadn't been close. But if the whisper I have received is true, then something has changed in the last 36 hours.
Anyone considered that Garner isn't happy with the money being offered and that is the delay? #justsaying
That makes it sound uncertain. Don’t think Cawley would had shared anything if it wasn’t very close.
I think it's done just that Cawley let the cat out of the bag early, TS then says we are still interviewing to provide a smokescreen, but in reality he just wants to be here himself to announce it because he likes being in the limelight and it's the way he rolls, like it or lump it.
Anyone considered that Garner isn't happy with the money being offered and that is the delay? #justsaying
That makes it sound uncertain. Don’t think Cawley would had shared anything if it wasn’t very close.
I only rarely get snippets. It comes from someone very close to all this and this is the indication I have just been given. As of yesterday Garner was close to walking away from the deal.
Not saying it won't happen, or that a deal had been close. But if the whisper I have received is true, then something has changed in the last 36 hours.
Cue a certain forum member trashing this post and then if it turns out to be true spinning it to suit his agenda.
Anyone considered that Garner isn't happy with the money being offered and that is the delay? #justsaying
That makes it sound uncertain. Don’t think Cawley would had shared anything if it wasn’t very close.
I think it's done just that Cawley let the cat out of the bag early, TS then says we are still interviewing to provide a smokescreen, but in reality he just wants to be here himself to announce it because he likes being in the limelight and it's the way he rolls, like it or lump it.
Was Thomas here when Adkins was announced, I honestly can't remember.
I wouldn't be surprised if something has changed in the last 48 hours, I would be surprised if it was money.
Whatever the hold up is, TS, MS, Uncle Tom Cobly... we all know ..Apparently, that Garner is in the door, so FFS GET ON AND ANNOUNCE IT, this is getting Sooooo 'kin Booooring...🙄😴
Anyone considered that Garner isn't happy with the money being offered and that is the delay? #justsaying
Really wouldn't be surprised. Jackson took an age to sign his and look at the caveats that were involved there.
Will Sandgaard ever learn that hiring a football manager is a little different to hiring a replacement for Kevin in Medical product development and sales?
Anyone considered that Garner isn't happy with the money being offered and that is the delay? #justsaying
Really wouldn't be surprised. Jackson took an age to sign his and look at the caveats that were involved there.
Will Sandgaard ever learn that hiring a football manager is a little different to hiring a replacement for Kevin in Medical product development and sales?
does this Kevin bloke understand formations and the high press?
My brother in law claims Ben Garner is a "pound shop Ten Haag"
All because I compared Garner to the new Ipswich gaffer
God I hope this works out.....if it ever bloody happens
I mean, I guess a pound shop version of a bloke who took a team with a comparatively small budget to within seconds of a Champions League final probably would be about a League One level manager no?
There'll be an unnecessary rift between Cawley and the Club me reckons.
Why…..first and foremost he’s a journalist and if he’s to be worthy of his position he simply has to report material that he uncovers and considers relevant. If anyone, the culprit is someone within the Swindon camp. In short….he is just doing his job.
Changes? A bloke who is pumping his money into the club wants his players not to be unfit and train with more intensity to deliver football results? Not even something worth talking about, Christ
I don't get the criticism either. If any member on here bought a painting and decorating company and the guys were all using small brushes rather than rollers, wouldn't the owner changing this be an acceptable process?
yet a guy bits a football club and isn't allowed to comment on how it's run!! Weird
No, if I employed people and the didn’t know how to do their job properly I would sack them and replace them with people who did.
My brother in law claims Ben Garner is a "pound shop Ten Haag"
All because I compared Garner to the new Ipswich gaffer
God I hope this works out.....if it ever bloody happens
I mean, I guess a pound shop version of a bloke who took a team with a comparatively small budget to within seconds of a Champions League final probably would be about a League One level manager no?
Remember we don't want Carrick because he only got a naught naught against Chelsea.........
Re Sandgaard's son. Only once in my life have I experienced nepotism.
Joined Orpington FC when I was about 17 and went to pre season and it was announced that team was folding. My school mate who got me there was from Anerley and his old man I think got fed up with negotiating the traffic making the borough wide trip each midweek.
As it was on my doorstep I went home and mentioned it to my old man and bizarrely he took it on and later on went to run it quite successfully.
Great I thought I would get regularly games and up front given daddy was manager. I recruited a load of old school mates and general riff raff from Orpington and we had a decent side come the start if the season.
Problem was my dad didn't bloody pick me from day one and I spent most of the season smoking on the sidelines hoping to get 5 minutes which very rarely came.
Chris Powell isn’t going to work for Thomas Sandgaard, Rich Cawley hasn’t made a mistake re Garner and the reason I know about MS attempting to make a change to training is because the professionals were incredulous.
Stroppy coaches overseeing very poor performance sulking that someone asks them why don't they try something different?
We have had poor coaching in the first team for at least two years. Need a lot of changes top to bottom.
I'd normally be very, very against any suggestions at all from an ownership but given that we saw a team that seemingly had absolutely no idea what they were supposed to be doing on the pitch, constantly made the same mistakes over and over and regularly lost to pretty terrible teams I spent most of the season being pretty bloody incredulous as well. If our coaching team thought that they didn't have any notes to take while we were getting turned over 3-2 at home by Morecambe then I hope when they got the sack it was an actual physical sack full of doorknobs.
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WIOTOS (it'll be too naffing late)
TS quote "MS identifies the player"
Other quote " Manager identifies...etc"
ergo MS = Manager
Plain as the nose on my face
This is the way a lot of clubs run. Kloop didn't go and find Diaz himself. He gave the criteria and the Liverpool backroom team went and found a player fitting that criteria.
Can I help?
I wouldn't be surprised if something has changed in the last 48 hours, I would be surprised if it was money.
Will Sandgaard ever learn that hiring a football manager is a little different to hiring a replacement for Kevin in Medical product development and sales?
If anyone, the culprit is someone within the Swindon camp.
In short….he is just doing his job.
Joined Orpington FC when I was about 17 and went to pre season and it was announced that team was folding. My school mate who got me there was from Anerley and his old man I think got fed up with negotiating the traffic making the borough wide trip each midweek.
As it was on my doorstep I went home and mentioned it to my old man and bizarrely he took it on and later on went to run it quite successfully.
Great I thought I would get regularly games and up front given daddy was manager. I recruited a load of old school mates and general riff raff from Orpington and we had a decent side come the start if the season.
Problem was my dad didn't bloody pick me from day one and I spent most of the season smoking on the sidelines hoping to get 5 minutes which very rarely came.
*******NO MORE FECKING MARTIN SANDGAARD CHAT*******