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  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,891
    edited May 2022
    Something definitely maybe announced sometime sooner or later...BLOODY HELL, GET A MOVE ON FFS.. ;)
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    Message to Thomas. Ok, stop farting about now trying to be cleverer than everybody else. When it comes to football you are clearly not. You are a decent bloke with your heart in the right place so don't let this drag on any longer. If we are not about to appoint anybody imminently, give it to Euell on a caretaker basis and lets start getting on with the job now.
    So your plan is that we keep giving the job to the person junior to the last person we sacked for not achieving?  Sooner or later it's going to the person who counts the chips into cartons at half time.
    Well I don't think we should have sacked JJ. But carry on making it up as you go along if you think it makes you sound like you know what you are talking about. It is how Curbs and Bowyer got the job by the way. But give the manager a chance to succeed or fail FFS! JJ wasn't given that chance and now when we should be planning and talking to targets we haven't even got a manager!
    Let’s not gloss over the shit football JJ was over seeing, two sides to the story and all that.🤷🏻‍♂️
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    When we instigate the new system of fans taking it in turns to pick the team (and I fully endorse @Coyotejohn1947’s excellent suggestion that for away games, fans living nearest the opposition’s ground should pick those teams) my worry is how would we avoid ‘fifth columnist’ fans of other clubs getting involved?
    Not an insoluble problem mind you.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited May 2022
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    Message to Thomas. Ok, stop farting about now trying to be cleverer than everybody else. When it comes to football you are clearly not. You are a decent bloke with your heart in the right place so don't let this drag on any longer. If we are not about to appoint anybody imminently, give it to Euell on a caretaker basis and lets start getting on with the job now.
    So your plan is that we keep giving the job to the person junior to the last person we sacked for not achieving?  Sooner or later it's going to the person who counts the chips into cartons at half time.
    Well I don't think we should have sacked JJ. But carry on making it up as you go along if you think it makes you sound like you know what you are talking about. It is how Curbs and Bowyer got the job by the way. But give the manager a chance to succeed or fail FFS! JJ wasn't given that chance and now when we should be planning and talking to targets we haven't even got a manager!
    You can argue if Jackson should or shouldn't have been sacked, I can actually see both sides and don't have a strong view either way.

    But what I think is beyond arguing is that neither Jackson nor Adkins were allowed to succeed or fail on their own merits.

    Unless that changes dramatically it doesn't really matter who the next manager is or when they are appointed.  It's more important that they have a plan and are allowed to execute it.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,682

  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,479

  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,133
    paulg1947 said:
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Macronate said:
    I reckon we’re going to do things a little bit differently by appointing a permanent caretaker manager.
    No I think we will actually instigate a Pathway for Caretakers.
    We have seen empirically that the best results come when a caretaker is appointed.
    The mistake was to make them permanent, we just need a rolling conveyor belt, so that when the caretaker starts to fail the assistant is made caretaker.  ;)
     So its Jason Euel then. We could do a lot worse at this rate
    Well, Thomas has very shrewdly already appointed him.
    Meanwhile for public consumption he is going through a sham recruitment process.
    He already knows that anybody he really wants won't be interested in Charlton, why would they.
    And any loser or has been that does want the job will naturally be overlooked.
    Just need Tommy to hold his nerve and not impulsively appoint somebody lower down the food chain than Jase  ;)  
  • DagenhamAddick
    DagenhamAddick Posts: 468
    To be honest Beale is my first choice but if Jason Euell got it I would be happy with that. Although at some point I did say a clean sweep was needed. I can see the logic with JE plus I guess he's used to the set up and will not cost that much.
  • daveaddick
    daveaddick Posts: 1,926
    Losing interest rapidly I am afraid. Last season was dire and I have a feeling that the appointment of Jason Euell would be more of the same, after all he was part of Boyers and JJ's team. I feel a new broom is needed, with a fresh team on board. One way or another it's already going to be very difficult to be ready for next season with no appointment on the horizon. What a mess this club is

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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    blackpool72 said:
    DagenhamAddick said:
    To be honest Beale is my first choice but if Jason Euell got it I would be happy with that. Although at some point I did say a clean sweep was needed. I can see the logic with JE plus I guess he's used to the set up and will not cost that much.
    Well I absolutely would not be happy if it was Euell.
    We need a new manager with new ideas. 
    Also if after 3 or 4 weeks of interviews Euell is the best he cab come up with what does that say about Sandgaard. 
    I would also add that if it is Euell, it would be because our 1st, 2nd, 3rd choices turned us down. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    daveaddick said:
    Losing interest rapidly I am afraid. Last season was dire and I have a feeling that the appointment of Jason Euell would be more of the same, after all he was part of Boyers and JJ's team. I feel a new broom is needed, with a fresh team on board. One way or another it's already going to be very difficult to be ready for next season with no appointment on the horizon. What a mess this club is
    I'm not saying I want Euell but wasn't Bowyer part of Robinson's team? Jackson was part of Adkins team and we still improved. I think it's daft to rule it out and don't see the argument at all that the new manager has to have fresh ideas. Bowyer didn't play Robinson's formation/tactics, and Jackson didn't play the same as any of the three manager he had worked under. 
  • DagenhamAddick
    DagenhamAddick Posts: 468
    blackpool72 said:
    DagenhamAddick said:
    To be honest Beale is my first choice but if Jason Euell got it I would be happy with that. Although at some point I did say a clean sweep was needed. I can see the logic with JE plus I guess he's used to the set up and will not cost that much.
    Well I absolutely would not be happy if it was Euell.
    We need a new manager with new ideas. 
    Also if after 3 or 4 weeks of interviews Euell is the best he cab come up with what does that say about Sandgaard. 
    I'm not saying a bad word about Sandgaard. I'm always met with Amis this Amis that. Sandgaard is the best owner we can hope for and he saved the club.
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,597
    You can almost hear the scraping noises from the bottom of the barrel.  
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,732
    grumpyaddick said:
    You can almost hear the scraping noises from the bottom of the barrel.  
    Can you? Who do you know that has rejected us that we need to scrape the bottom of the barrel?


  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,544
    No announcement expected for another week …. TS due over end of next week 
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,273
    RonnieMoore said:
    No announcement expected for another week …. TS due over end of next week 
    I read that earlier 
  • daveaddick
    daveaddick Posts: 1,926
    cafcfan 1990. Did you say we improved when Jackson took over from Adkins? Well I suppose you could argue that, as he had a little bounce at the beginning but come on, the football was dire, the tactics were naïve and didn't suit the players we had. I concede that Boyer improved us after Robinson, but ultimately he ran out of ideas as well. Like I said, it's a bloody mess
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,897
    daveaddick said:
    cafcfan 1990. Did you say we improved when Jackson took over from Adkins? Well I suppose you could argue that, as he had a little bounce at the beginning but come on, the football was dire, the tactics were naïve and didn't suit the players we had. I concede that Boyer improved us after Robinson, but ultimately he ran out of ideas as well. Like I said, it's a bloody mess
    The fact that we were 23rd when jackson took over and we finished 14th suggests to me that we improved.
  • daveaddick
    daveaddick Posts: 1,926
    Sorry, you are right what a massive achievement that was

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  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,674

  • stockportugaladdick
    stockportugaladdick Posts: 1,150
    daveaddick said:
    Losing interest rapidly I am afraid. Last season was dire and I have a feeling that the appointment of Jason Euell would be more of the same, after all he was part of Boyers and JJ's team. I feel a new broom is needed, with a fresh team on board. One way or another it's already going to be very difficult to be ready for next season with no appointment on the horizon. What a mess this club is
    As long as they don't use triggers
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,891
    edited May 2022
    stockportaddick said:
    daveaddick said:
    Losing interest rapidly I am afraid. Last season was dire and I have a feeling that the appointment of Jason Euell would be more of the same, after all he was part of Boyers and JJ's team. I feel a new broom is needed, with a fresh team on board. One way or another it's already going to be very difficult to be ready for next season with no appointment on the horizon. What a mess this club is
    As long as they don't use triggers

    Well, it did have 17 new heads and 14 new handles... B)
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,479
    shirty5 said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    No announcement expected for another week …. TS due over end of next week 
    I read that earlier 
    Where was this?
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,891
    Scoham said:
    shirty5 said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    No announcement expected for another week …. TS due over end of next week 
    I read that earlier 
    Where was this?
    Dare i say, Plymouth Herald.. B)
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,394
    edited May 2022
    Dumb idea 😂
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,897
    daveaddick said:
    Sorry, you are right what a massive achievement that was
    I didn't say it was did I? You said we didn't improve under Jackson but he moved us up 9 places. That's what I responded to. 
  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,465
    Todds_right_hook said:
    daveaddick said:
    cafcfan 1990. Did you say we improved when Jackson took over from Adkins? Well I suppose you could argue that, as he had a little bounce at the beginning but come on, the football was dire, the tactics were naïve and didn't suit the players we had. I concede that Boyer improved us after Robinson, but ultimately he ran out of ideas as well. Like I said, it's a bloody mess
    The fact that we were 23rd when jackson took over and we finished 14th suggests to me that we improved.

    Adkins first 13 games in charge:

    9 points (2W,3D,8L)  scoring 15 goals, conceding 23.

    Jackson same fixtures:

    10 points (3W,1D,9L) Scoring 11 goals, conceding 21.

    Suggests to me Jackson didn't really improve us at all. We were rubbish and so was Jackson at managing this team.

  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,052
    edited May 2022
    stockportaddick said:
    daveaddick said:
    Losing interest rapidly I am afraid. Last season was dire and I have a feeling that the appointment of Jason Euell would be more of the same, after all he was part of Boyers and JJ's team. I feel a new broom is needed, with a fresh team on board. One way or another it's already going to be very difficult to be ready for next season with no appointment on the horizon. What a mess this club
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,161
    Can sack Jackson over the phone but has to be here in person before we can announce a new manager. Can’t pass up an opportunity to make it all about him I suppose.

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