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George Dobson - Gone to Wrexham p136, farewell message p142

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  • .....not that the OS has given any updates, even now
  • Gribbo said:
    .....not that the OS has given any updates, even now
    The best we are going to get is from yesterday’s press conference. Thankfully Richard Cawley was there otherwise in my opinion we may not have heard anything 
  • Gribbo said:
    .....not that the OS has given any updates, even now
    Think they have said he is injured havent they?

    Was that true?
  • Literally yesterday Cawley told us CAFC has met his demands, I can't see why he would now be sneaking off to Hungary? Obviously just a tight calf.
    Was just a tad off the mark. :D
  • Does anybody know his Dad, from here?
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    mendonca said:
    Does anybody know his Dad, from here?
    Where are you and I’ll let you know?

    Where’s the grammar Police when you need them! Huh, typical, never around when you need them.
  • mendonca said:
    Does anybody know his Dad, from here?
    From here, no.
  • Known / socialised with a few professional footballers over the years and, with the exception of maybe 2, they all seemed quit content on telling anyone who'll listen what they earned and where.
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  • Rob7Lee said:
    Well, it seems like someone at the club who actually understands football, has realised how important Dobson could be in a relegation fight and has stood their ground. Thank Christ. 

    Some of the comments not understanding the move to Hungary are quite amusing for me. 

    Videoton/Fehervar have been competing in Europe and getting results/competing in recent years against the likes of: Chelsea, Ludogrets, Malmo, AEK Athens, Partizan, PAOK, Bordeaux, Reims, Köln. Do you genuinely not understand how bad the likes of those clubs would smash us to fkn pieces on the pitch 😂 Play league 1 footie surrounded by players who look like they've won a competition and don't put in half the effort you do, or, join a team that competes to win their league and is willing to pay you a very fair wage in a nice country. What a decision.

    Suspect it's the people with the same view that Rangers wasn't a big move at the time for Aribo. It's a brilliant move for Dobson at this stage of his career. 

    When it's all said and done, he will be able to say he played European football for one of the best teams in a different country, OR he could say, he scraped by, year after year for a club that's been mismanaged by absolute crooks in League 1. 

    In an ideal world, he would have stayed, and he would have been one of the main people in charge of a promotion challenging team. Unfortunately, getting a senior role at Charlton is the easiest job application in the world apparently, and his situation has been completely mismanaged. 

    Good luck to Dobson. I hope he can help keep us in this poxy league for another year, and we can wipe the stains from the club that currently have far too much say, next season. 👍🏻


    For me it’s nothing to do with the perceived quality of league etc. I understand that a footballers career is very finite, and ultimately they need to try and make as much money, and play at the highest level they can, during the period they play. 

    If he was a single bloke, then maybe, but I just don’t understand why with a very young family, you would make such a move unless it was for an absolutely life changing wage - which I just don’t think it will be.

    With 6 months left on his contract it just tells me that they know they won’t get an offer better than what Charlton offered from another English team. 



    Don't know what he earns here, but it's more than possible for him to be getting towards £1m with bonuses etc at the new club plus a decent signing on fee, Hungary has very low tax rates as well (flat 15% on income), so likely he'd need to earn at least 50% more in the UK to net the same. 

    Plus many people see working abroad for a period as an adventure and an opportunity.


    I can’t speak for other people or George Dobson, but I don’t think in life when you have a baby, that you are looking for adventure at that point. 

    Just doing some research and the average salary seems to be about £8,500 a month. However Ferenacvos will pay significantly better and you have to expect George will be one of the higher earners in that team as well. 

    However there needs to be a massive increase to the average to make it anywhere near a million a year. 
    That's all well and good, but he hasn't signed for Ferencvaros.
    Oh, wow, not sure why I thought it was Ferencvaros.

    I’ve actually been to Székesfehérvár/Fehérvár
    where Dobson will be based, on my way to Lake Balaton one year.

    All I can really remember of that time is an awful tasting drink called ‘Unicum’. 
    Did the barman blindfold you and insist you drank it through a straw?
  • His dad posting that just before a massive 6 pointer is poor. Hi could have waited until after the game. 

    Airing dirty laundry in public like that is poor and unprofessional. Some conversations should remain between the club and player. 
    One journalist told me, that the most of that gossips came from directly from the parents. I think this is true.
  • Nadou said:
    Those quotes to me sound like another nail in the coffin for Andy Scott. He's basically all but said 'i overruled him'.
    Now, IF Andy is an honourable bloke and IF he wants to continue working in this "field" , might I respectfully suggest he considers falling on his sword before this issue escalates.

    Too many questions at present & not enough clarity.

    Surely, having our new manager in the firing line at his pre match interview ( which he handled superbly as we knew he would) won't cut the mustard . 

    And sooner or later, Dobbo's position will need clarification....

    Once again, I'd urge all the home fans there tomorrow night to be loud & proud in their support of our captain & leave him in NO doubt whatsoever that his place and his future is here, wearing the red shirt. 
    What is the song for Dobson? I can't recall hearing one, which has always struck me as odd.
    Know idea about the song but totally agree that we need to lift Dobbo's spirits and give him  wholehearted support, we can't guess his state of mind but vocal support can only help.
    Suggestion for a song "won't you stay just little bit longer" Jackson Browne- tight trousers needed for the high parts
  • His dad posting that just before a massive 6 pointer is poor. Hi could have waited until after the game. 

    Airing dirty laundry in public like that is poor and unprofessional. Some conversations should remain between the club and player. 
    One journalist told me, that the most of that gossips came from directly from the parents. I think this is true.
    My issue is with the timing rather than the source
  • His dad posting that just before a massive 6 pointer is poor. Hi could have waited until after the game. 

    Airing dirty laundry in public like that is poor and unprofessional. Some conversations should remain between the club and player. 
    One journalist told me, that the most of that gossips came from directly from the parents. I think this is true.
    My issue is with the timing rather than the source
    Agree. Everyone has their own agenda, he knew what he was doing and why.
  • How about a song for George, to the tune of John Kettley is a Weatherman. 

    George Dobson's a Charlton Boy, a Charlton Boy, a Charlton Boy (repeat twice)
    AND Andy Scott's a W****R! 
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  • @Braziliance

    obviously I don’t know how you are fixed for time and money, but you can get cheap flights and decent accomm in Budapest between now and a bit before Easter. Yes, go
    and take in an NB1 game but not a big derby involving Ferencvaros. Maybe Ujpest against a club from outside the capital. And vlog that. Based on my 30 years of trying and failing to love the Czech league, I think you will find it an eye-opener.
    Cheers Prague, 

    Why not a big game out of interest? 

    My plans atm are a Celtic game (my mate at work is a season ticket holder), the Eternal Derby in Bucharest (my best mate lives in Bucharest and finally a Galatasary game (again two Turkish mates, one of which supports Gala).

    Definitely quite keen to travel and do some vlogs along the way. 
    Well because I wanted you to see the standard and atmosphere of a typical HU game. I have never seen one, mind, but I am very confident that its much like a similar Czech game. I’ve had some fantastic Euro nights in Plzen watching Viktoria beating Napoli or Dinamo Zagreb and a few tasty ones when they play Sparta or Slavia. But when you go along to a typical league game, fuck me it is dire. The atmosphere, ( lack of) the old stadia, and on the pitch the schoolboy defending and often couldn’t give a fuck attitude .. well, you will miss the Valley and you will understand why this guy, an equally fervent supporter of Budapest Honved and Luton Town (when Nathan was in charge) tweeted this about the Dobbo move

    https://x.com/djgabyg/status/1756572218937504162?s=61&t=oKpEK5xuwukoPQ-YsizesQ

    And the thing is yes, Dobbo might get to play in Europe, but 90% of the time he’’ll be playing in front of 3,000 with players whose body language makes Scott Fraser look like Billy Bremner. (And those players will look 200% better if they play in a Europa League game the following Wednesday) . 

    If you have that experience you’ll understand why some of us have good reason (and not just ignorance or insularity) to wonder whether its a good career move for Dobbo, regardless of the money.
    Noted mate, thanks for your insightful post, I'll certainly try and do 2 games, a spicy one and a lower table fixture. 


  • @Braziliance

    obviously I don’t know how you are fixed for time and money, but you can get cheap flights and decent accomm in Budapest between now and a bit before Easter. Yes, go
    and take in an NB1 game but not a big derby involving Ferencvaros. Maybe Ujpest against a club from outside the capital. And vlog that. Based on my 30 years of trying and failing to love the Czech league, I think you will find it an eye-opener.
    Cheers Prague, 

    Why not a big game out of interest? 

    My plans atm are a Celtic game (my mate at work is a season ticket holder), the Eternal Derby in Bucharest (my best mate lives in Bucharest and finally a Galatasary game (again two Turkish mates, one of which supports Gala).

    Definitely quite keen to travel and do some vlogs along the way. 
    Well because I wanted you to see the standard and atmosphere of a typical HU game. I have never seen one, mind, but I am very confident that its much like a similar Czech game. I’ve had some fantastic Euro nights in Plzen watching Viktoria beating Napoli or Dinamo Zagreb and a few tasty ones when they play Sparta or Slavia. But when you go along to a typical league game, fuck me it is dire. The atmosphere, ( lack of) the old stadia, and on the pitch the schoolboy defending and often couldn’t give a fuck attitude .. well, you will miss the Valley and you will understand why this guy, an equally fervent supporter of Budapest Honved and Luton Town (when Nathan was in charge) tweeted this about the Dobbo move

    https://x.com/djgabyg/status/1756572218937504162?s=61&t=oKpEK5xuwukoPQ-YsizesQ

    And the thing is yes, Dobbo might get to play in Europe, but 90% of the time he’’ll be playing in front of 3,000 with players whose body language makes Scott Fraser look like Billy Bremner. (And those players will look 200% better if they play in a Europa League game the following Wednesday) . 

    If you have that experience you’ll understand why some of us have good reason (and not just ignorance or insularity) to wonder whether its a good career move for Dobbo, regardless of the money.
    Noted mate, thanks for your insightful post, I'll certainly try and do 2 games, a spicy one and a lower table fixture. 


    Can I suggest another country on your bucket-list? Germany, and specifically the 2nd division. It would be at the other end of the experience spectrum. You could go and see Schalke. Having been relegated from the top flight last season they are now facing a Sunderland style double-drop, in 14th place and just 2 points above the dropzone.

    I just checked their last home game,it was against  Braunschweig so nothing special. The attendance was 61,215. And that is not a typing error.

    Thats an example of why I wrote that if Dobbo was serious about playing in Europe, then top of his list should be 2-Bundesliga. 

    You’d need help even getting a ticket for Schalke but if you happened to be interested one of the German Addicks is a Schalke fan. 
  • @Braziliance

    obviously I don’t know how you are fixed for time and money, but you can get cheap flights and decent accomm in Budapest between now and a bit before Easter. Yes, go
    and take in an NB1 game but not a big derby involving Ferencvaros. Maybe Ujpest against a club from outside the capital. And vlog that. Based on my 30 years of trying and failing to love the Czech league, I think you will find it an eye-opener.
    Cheers Prague, 

    Why not a big game out of interest? 

    My plans atm are a Celtic game (my mate at work is a season ticket holder), the Eternal Derby in Bucharest (my best mate lives in Bucharest and finally a Galatasary game (again two Turkish mates, one of which supports Gala).

    Definitely quite keen to travel and do some vlogs along the way. 
    Well because I wanted you to see the standard and atmosphere of a typical HU game. I have never seen one, mind, but I am very confident that its much like a similar Czech game. I’ve had some fantastic Euro nights in Plzen watching Viktoria beating Napoli or Dinamo Zagreb and a few tasty ones when they play Sparta or Slavia. But when you go along to a typical league game, fuck me it is dire. The atmosphere, ( lack of) the old stadia, and on the pitch the schoolboy defending and often couldn’t give a fuck attitude .. well, you will miss the Valley and you will understand why this guy, an equally fervent supporter of Budapest Honved and Luton Town (when Nathan was in charge) tweeted this about the Dobbo move

    https://x.com/djgabyg/status/1756572218937504162?s=61&t=oKpEK5xuwukoPQ-YsizesQ

    And the thing is yes, Dobbo might get to play in Europe, but 90% of the time he’’ll be playing in front of 3,000 with players whose body language makes Scott Fraser look like Billy Bremner. (And those players will look 200% better if they play in a Europa League game the following Wednesday) . 

    If you have that experience you’ll understand why some of us have good reason (and not just ignorance or insularity) to wonder whether its a good career move for Dobbo, regardless of the money.
    Noted mate, thanks for your insightful post, I'll certainly try and do 2 games, a spicy one and a lower table fixture. 


    If you know the time, when you come, I can help you with some information.
  • I met Dobbo's Dad walking out of Wycombe last season, a nice bloke who wanted to talk about the game and players performances, I know people who were out with him in Blackpool after the game a few weeks ago, so as a parent who follows his son around the country, and knows from doing this how instrumental he is to us, I am fine with him voicing his opinion. He knows his son's worth at this club and he if can see his son not being offered reasonable terms compared to a lot of the shit wearing the shirt then fair effing play.
    Fair enough, but what Dad worth his salt thinks their offspring are getting their fair share of the spoils of life...🤷‍♂️
    By the way, I agree Dobbo is beyond important to us, he is imperative to our progress as a club...
  • I met Dobbo's Dad walking out of Wycombe last season, a nice bloke who wanted to talk about the game and players performances, I know people who were out with him in Blackpool after the game a few weeks ago, so as a parent who follows his son around the country, and knows from doing this how instrumental he is to us, I am fine with him voicing his opinion. He knows his son's worth at this club and he if can see his son not being offered reasonable terms compared to a lot of the shit wearing the shirt then fair effing play.
    Not disputing this and I wouldn't expect anything less from a parent. My issue is the dad shouting his mouth of just before a big game to disrupt the fan base. That was tactical and out of order. There is no reason why he couldn't have leaked the info after the game. In fact, leaking bad news after a massive loss may have had a bigger impact.
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    I met Dobbo's Dad walking out of Wycombe last season, a nice bloke who wanted to talk about the game and players performances, I know people who were out with him in Blackpool after the game a few weeks ago, so as a parent who follows his son around the country, and knows from doing this how instrumental he is to us, I am fine with him voicing his opinion. He knows his son's worth at this club and he if can see his son not being offered reasonable terms compared to a lot of the shit wearing the shirt then fair effing play.
    The thing about Tennai and others is that if they don’t make any sort of improvement the next contract offer they’ll get from Charlton will be worth £0 p/w.

    Those players “earned” that first contract offer from us based on how they performed at their previous clubs. Second contract offers come based on how you perform at your current club.

    We’ve overpaid some players on their first contract, clearly. That’s pissed off a better performing player in our squad, evidently. We’ve created problems for ourselves over multiple ownership groups.
    Agreed, we have overpaid. There has never been a point where I thought T Watson was better than Dobbo. He could have created that point with his performances but he hasn't. I would be insulted if I was Dobbo and he was getting more than me.
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