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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

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  • Scoham said:
    For all the talk of Adkins wanting to give youth a chance, we've ended up with a pretty full squad, with too many over 21s to register then all, and few opportunities for young players to get a game

    Harsh

    Morgan has played, Deji has played, Harness on the bench and we have other young players on the fringes. Davison and did well in the pizza cup if not in the league cup.

    We need the experienced players to guide what is still a young squad. Famewo is 22, DJ not much more, Kirk is 23 or 24. Clare and Dobson aren't ancient either.
    Because they had to. They probably won't play that much now unless we get injuries.
    I think Morgan will, he’s ahead of Clare and Dobson, and Arter will play ahead of Watson. Lee will play higher up. Main question is whether Adkins play Lee and Gilbey together once the latter is available.
    Morgan won't be first choice and potentially not even second choice in any of the 3 midfield positions.

    DM - Arter, Watson, Dobson
    CM - Gilbey, then between Clare/Morgan
    AM - Lee, then potentially Leko?

    So realistically Morgan won't play much unless we get a few injuries/suspensions.
    Who is Clare Morgan? 😏
    I work with her.  Passes the height test as well!!   ;)
  • Wow, shocked at this given the comments about the emergency loan. Strong squad now!
  • Stephen Henderson has signed on a year deal. 
  • So we still have one loan slot unused, and don't need it for an emergency loan keeper
  • This thread is now on it’s last legs. :-(
  • So we still have one loan slot unused, and don't need it for an emergency loan keeper
    Just cant use that now until January
  • You can call Dobson a Pratley replacement, but the same could be said of Clare, as Pratley wasn't just a holding midfielder, he could do box to box as well 

    I wouldn't call Clare the Shinnie replacement, if anything his role as the creative passer and dead ball taker has been taken by Morgan.

    Clare if anything is an alternative to Gilbey who was our box to box midfielder last season
    It's their places in the squad, Clare has already played more than Shinnie did, under Adkins, there was no role for Shinnie. 
  • Tbh I have lost track but Henderson signing has surprised me a bit. Surely we must be over the squad limit now ?
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  • AndyG said:
    Tbh I have lost track but Henderson signing has surprised me a bit. Surely we must be over the squad limit now ?
    Goalies don't count. 
  • AndyG said:
    Tbh I have lost track but Henderson signing has surprised me a bit. Surely we must be over the squad limit now ?
    Henderson doesn't count
  • Ah ha tu
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    AndyG said:
    Tbh I have lost track but Henderson signing has surprised me a bit. Surely we must be over the squad limit now ?
    Goalies don't count. 
    Think we are still one over even with goalies excluded. I expect JFC not to be included and we can then re-evaluate in January.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    You can call Dobson a Pratley replacement, but the same could be said of Clare, as Pratley wasn't just a holding midfielder, he could do box to box as well 

    I wouldn't call Clare the Shinnie replacement, if anything his role as the creative passer and dead ball taker has been taken by Morgan.

    Clare if anything is an alternative to Gilbey who was our box to box midfielder last season
    It's their places in the squad, Clare has already played more than Shinnie did, under Adkins, there was no role for Shinnie. 
    It was Gilbey who displaced Shinnie last season. 
  • The Grapevine post basically says 

    - We had different targets over the summer. Some signed, some didn't
    - Some are younger so longer-term thinking
    - Some are shorter-term as we need to cover injuries and push up the league

    That could have summed it up pretty much. But it's less easy to drop in references to "business operational need," "corporate strategy" and his "career of building businesses" if it's not dressed up in the big essay ; ) 
    Precisely - some lap up all that corporate guff, others see through it
  • It’s war. 
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  • DOUCHER said:
    The Grapevine post basically says 

    - We had different targets over the summer. Some signed, some didn't
    - Some are younger so longer-term thinking
    - Some are shorter-term as we need to cover injuries and push up the league

    That could have summed it up pretty much. But it's less easy to drop in references to "business operational need," "corporate strategy" and his "career of building businesses" if it's not dressed up in the big essay ; ) 
    Precisely - some lap up all that corporate guff, others see through it
    See through what exactly?
  • To be fair to Mr. Ronnie, the game was 0-0 before Dobson went off. 

    I think that overall Statbank mark for Dobson is a bit harsh and he has already become something of a scapegoat. 

    As soon as he was subbed and we went 4-4-2, Wigan ripped through us twice.
    And we could have been 4-0 down by then as well. 
  • JamesSeed said:
    Probably not best to use the quote function on those, apologies! 
    The edit function is your friend. 
    Excellent post as ever from Grapevine. Anyone who’s just waking up from a coma and who wishes to replicate the experience could save an enormous amount of time by reading it and ignoring everything else. 👍

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