So the pool of quality (ish) players like Lowery and Dempsey is being stalked by clubs with some money like us and it seems Shrewsbury and Blackpool and probably a few more Championship clubs. The risk at this point of our brinkmanship going spectacularly wrong must be very high. In fact we could easily get sucked into a last minute bidding war and end up with nothing. Never dull is it.
There definitely appears to be truth in the Dempsey rumours as wasnt at training yesterday at Gillingham - seems they want Josh Davison on loan as part of the deal.
Do it, 100%. All parties benefit as Davison gets a year in League One and we hopefully sign a striker anyway before the end of the window.
Wouldn't be too fussed if that was a loanee as they're only going to be back-up to Stockley anyway. No real point blowing the bank on a reserve.
I can't remember ever in my many decades of being a Cafc fan when there isn't a rumour of a club wanting or preparing a bid for any of our first team squad, in a window or when you could buy at any time ?
There definitely appears to be truth in the Dempsey rumours as wasnt at training yesterday at Gillingham - seems they want Josh Davison on loan as part of the deal.
There definitely appears to be truth in the Dempsey rumours as wasnt at training yesterday at Gillingham - seems they want Josh Davison on loan as part of the deal.
Does he need a lift? I think a few lifers would offer to drive him there if that's the deal breaker.
Fair enough but, if we don't get a striker in the next 7 days to push/support Stockley, sad as it may seem, we may need and rely on Davison a bit more to perform that role if needed, the only other realistic backup is Washington..
There definitely appears to be truth in the Dempsey rumours as wasnt at training yesterday at Gillingham - seems they want Josh Davison on loan as part of the deal.
There definitely appears to be truth in the Dempsey rumours as wasnt at training yesterday at Gillingham - seems they want Josh Davison on loan as part of the deal.
I hope you’re more ITK than this guy.
Now why did you post that! Why couldn’t you let the speculation flourish until at least lunch time? I am holding you personally responsible for all the crap that is posted until 1pm. There. Smoke that! 🙃
Would be funny if this was the plan and Clare and Dobson are always signed us squad players/projects and come deadline day Tommy is making it rain with Lowery and Dempsey to complete centre Mid.
There definitely appears to be truth in the Dempsey rumours as wasnt at training yesterday at Gillingham - seems they want Josh Davison on loan as part of the deal.
I hope you’re more ITK than this guy.
Cawley might as well stick this in his tweets. Makes it easier
There definitely appears to be truth in the Dempsey rumours as wasnt at training yesterday at Gillingham - seems they want Josh Davison on loan as part of the deal.
I hope you’re more ITK than this guy.
Now why did you post that! Why couldn’t you let the speculation flourish until at least lunch time? I am holding you personally responsible for all the crap that is posted until 1pm. There. Smoke that! 🙃
I apologise it was a mood dampener but I just can’t be arsed with the meltdown when he turns up at Ipswich.
The Cawley thing was on here yesterday. Of course "as things stand right now it is highly unlikely to happen", we made an offer that has been turned down and unless we up that offer then it remains "highly unlikely to happen".
There definitely appears to be truth in the Dempsey rumours as wasnt at training yesterday at Gillingham - seems they want Josh Davison on loan as part of the deal.
Do it, 100%. All parties benefit as Davison gets a year in League One and we hopefully sign a striker anyway before the end of the window.
Wouldn't be too fussed if that was a loanee as they're only going to be back-up to Stockley anyway. No real point blowing the bank on a reserve.
Trust me on this: If a forward came to Cafc and had some composure, when he saw the goal posts, he would be the first name on the team sheet If he took his opportunities from the bench. Stockley would still play but you adjust the team to create chances for the guy who can score. We should set up so both Stockley and this mystery player score.
The only reason Aneke started on the bench (1 goal every 100 minutes) was because of a potential health issue, which Bowyer knew about and was monitored by our medical staff. Birmingham gave him the green light and he passed his medical.
If we don't replace the Goals of Chuks, we will be mid table at best.
There definitely appears to be truth in the Dempsey rumours as wasnt at training yesterday at Gillingham - seems they want Josh Davison on loan as part of the deal.
The Cawley thing was on here yesterday. Of course "as things stand right now it is highly unlikely to happen", we made an offer that has been turned down and unless we up that offer then it remains "highly unlikely to happen".
I think it’s more likely Lowery or someone else is higher up our list.
Would be funny if this was the plan and Clare and Dobson are always signed us squad players/projects and come deadline day Tommy is making it rain with Lowery and Dempsey to complete centre Mid.
I don't think the plan was ever to go into the first 5 games with Clare, Dobson, Morgan and Watson as our only central midfielders and Gunter at left back though.....
£200k is a little low, but I don’t think it’s that low.
Let’s assume for arguments sake he’s on £2500 a week, Gillingham can’t pay high wages and that’s still good for a League One player, in my opinion.
He would be due to earn/cost Gillingham £120,000 between now and his contract finishing, including the extra month he gets if he doesn’t find a new club.
An offer of £250k could well be enough as we would be paying his contract off and giving them £130k on top.
They need the money, it’s the way football works, especially lower down the pyramid.
That would assume though that we're the only party interested, which I doubt if the player is any good
Has Rich Cawley put out any lines about what is likely to happen between now and Tuesday? ‘We’re expecting a busy few days’ type stuff or silence from the club?
The Cawley thing was on here yesterday. Of course "as things stand right now it is highly unlikely to happen", we made an offer that has been turned down and unless we up that offer then it remains "highly unlikely to happen".
I think it’s more likely Lowery or someone else is higher up our list.
Could be, didn't somebody say we also had a bid turned down for Lowery? If so, this may be a tactic to apply to pressure on Crewe!
£200k is a little low, but I don’t think it’s that low.
Let’s assume for arguments sake he’s on £2500 a week, Gillingham can’t pay high wages and that’s still good for a League One player, in my opinion.
He would be due to earn/cost Gillingham £120,000 between now and his contract finishing, including the extra month he gets if he doesn’t find a new club.
An offer of £250k could well be enough as we would be paying his contract off and giving them £130k on top.
They need the money, it’s the way football works, especially lower down the pyramid.
Not sure I follow the maths on that one. Won’t we be “paying his contract off” (by giving him a contract at Charlton) and paying them £250k (the hypothetical transfer fee) on top?
Has Rich Cawley put out any lines about what is likely to happen between now and Tuesday? ‘We’re expecting a busy few days’ type stuff or silence from the club?
He expects more signings, but that's hardly headline news as we know that we will bring in some loan players, whatever happens
Whether they're top quality ones or the dregs that other clubs want shot of is the unknown
There definitely appears to be truth in the Dempsey rumours as wasnt at training yesterday at Gillingham - seems they want Josh Davison on loan as part of the deal.
Do it, 100%. All parties benefit as Davison gets a year in League One and we hopefully sign a striker anyway before the end of the window.
I've mentioned this before, but when I see a swap deal mentioned it always makes me think its probably a false rumour. I just feel like they never really happen that much beyond video games.
£200k is a little low, but I don’t think it’s that low.
Let’s assume for arguments sake he’s on £2500 a week, Gillingham can’t pay high wages and that’s still good for a League One player, in my opinion.
He would be due to earn/cost Gillingham £120,000 between now and his contract finishing, including the extra month he gets if he doesn’t find a new club.
An offer of £250k could well be enough as we would be paying his contract off and giving them £130k on top.
They need the money, it’s the way football works, especially lower down the pyramid.
That would assume though that we're the only party interested, which I doubt if the player is any good
This also assumes that other intrested parties, ie the usual parties who would be intrested in a Dempsey/Lowery level player have got any room or money left.
If Ipswich, the usual example, think more players is the answer they might have to off load someone they have only just signed.
£200k is a little low, but I don’t think it’s that low.
Let’s assume for arguments sake he’s on £2500 a week, Gillingham can’t pay high wages and that’s still good for a League One player, in my opinion.
He would be due to earn/cost Gillingham £120,000 between now and his contract finishing, including the extra month he gets if he doesn’t find a new club.
An offer of £250k could well be enough as we would be paying his contract off and giving them £130k on top.
They need the money, it’s the way football works, especially lower down the pyramid.
Not sure I follow the maths on that one. Won’t we be “paying his contract off” (by giving him a contract at Charlton) and paying them £250k (the hypothetical transfer fee) on top?
Think he means that Gills wont have to pay his wages for the season, which will save them £130k , plus the transfer fee so a net saving of £380k for the season , assuming they don't replace him
£200k is a little low, but I don’t think it’s that low.
Let’s assume for arguments sake he’s on £2500 a week, Gillingham can’t pay high wages and that’s still good for a League One player, in my opinion.
He would be due to earn/cost Gillingham £120,000 between now and his contract finishing, including the extra month he gets if he doesn’t find a new club.
An offer of £250k could well be enough as we would be paying his contract off and giving them £130k on top.
They need the money, it’s the way football works, especially lower down the pyramid.
Not sure I follow the maths on that one. Won’t we be “paying his contract off” (by giving him a contract at Charlton) and paying them £250k (the hypothetical transfer fee) on top?
Sage has explained it perfect, essentially any wages saved would be a saving to them as well as the fee we will pay. So essentially £200k is not just that to Gillingham, its that on top of the wages they would have had to pay him for the next year
£200k is a little low, but I don’t think it’s that low.
Let’s assume for arguments sake he’s on £2500 a week, Gillingham can’t pay high wages and that’s still good for a League One player, in my opinion.
He would be due to earn/cost Gillingham £120,000 between now and his contract finishing, including the extra month he gets if he doesn’t find a new club.
An offer of £250k could well be enough as we would be paying his contract off and giving them £130k on top.
They need the money, it’s the way football works, especially lower down the pyramid.
That would assume though that we're the only party interested, which I doubt if the player is any good
This also assumes that other intrested parties, ie the usual parties who would be intrested in a Dempsey/Lowery level player have got any room or money left.
If Ipswich, the usual example, think more players is the answer they might have to off load someone they have only just signed.
But this assumes the club's that spend on A player don't come in as well, we're not competing with Ipswich etc. It's the Oxfords and Rotherhams who will add that one key player in 200-400k bracket that we need to worry about - as they'll be thinking the same as us.
And of course, championship clubs looking for a squad filler.
£200k is a little low, but I don’t think it’s that low.
Let’s assume for arguments sake he’s on £2500 a week, Gillingham can’t pay high wages and that’s still good for a League One player, in my opinion.
He would be due to earn/cost Gillingham £120,000 between now and his contract finishing, including the extra month he gets if he doesn’t find a new club.
An offer of £250k could well be enough as we would be paying his contract off and giving them £130k on top.
They need the money, it’s the way football works, especially lower down the pyramid.
That would assume though that we're the only party interested, which I doubt if the player is any good
This also assumes that other intrested parties, ie the usual parties who would be intrested in a Dempsey/Lowery level player have got any room or money left.
If Ipswich, the usual example, think more players is the answer they might have to off load someone they have only just signed.
But this assumes the club's that spend on A player don't come in as well, we're not competing with Ipswich etc. It's the Oxfords and Rotherhams who will add that one key player in 200-400k bracket that we need to worry about - as they'll be thinking the same as us.
And of course, championship clubs looking for a squad filler.
It's Sunderland we have to be most worried about going head to head with a player. Of course if a championship club get involved we almost certainly won't get them.
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21st in League 1 may be the clue.
Why couldn’t you let the speculation flourish until at least lunch time?
I am holding you personally responsible for all the crap that is posted until 1pm.
There. Smoke that!
🙃
Trust me on this: If a forward came to Cafc and had some composure, when he saw the goal posts, he would be the first name on the team sheet If he took his opportunities from the bench. Stockley would still play but you adjust the team to create chances for the guy who can score. We should set up so both Stockley and this mystery player score.
The only reason Aneke started on the bench (1 goal every 100 minutes) was because of a potential health issue, which Bowyer knew about and was monitored by our medical staff. Birmingham gave him the green light and he passed his medical.
If we don't replace the Goals of Chuks, we will be mid table at best.
Whether they're top quality ones or the dregs that other clubs want shot of is the unknown
If Ipswich, the usual example, think more players is the answer they might have to off load someone they have only just signed.
But this assumes the club's that spend on A player don't come in as well, we're not competing with Ipswich etc. It's the Oxfords and Rotherhams who will add that one key player in 200-400k bracket that we need to worry about - as they'll be thinking the same as us.
And of course, championship clubs looking for a squad filler.
https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/12149187/brexits-effect-on-premier-league-transfer-window-would-paul-pogba-and-cesc-fabregas-have-still-signed
https://worldfootballsummit.com/the-impact-of-brexit-on-football-transfers-in-the-uk-europe-and-beyond/