A point when a few weeks back we would have got none. Still capable of getting in the play offs. Lawrie Wilson to stare at, sorry listen to. Stevie Brown excellent comms. And Big Bob on Tuesday.
Player for player the current squad is a shadow of the the team we had at Wembley two years ago. We are weaker in every single position.
Goals scored are a real concern. Goals are only scored by our forwards. Our defenders and midfielders rarely score. In 2019 we had Aribo & Belik scoring regularly from midfield. This doesn’t happen any more. You cannot be successful with just 1 or 2 people scoring.
Tactically we are shite, so predictable. Every move forward is the same.
Not great but if only Chucks had banged that one in and the points should have been ours.
What gives you that impression?
Urgency levels dropped to a very low level when we scored. And not just on the pitch. Why when the ball went into the stands did everyone on our bench just stand there watch and wait for some bloke to go waddling off to retrieve it? Why wasn't a row of balls ready and waiting to be given straight back? I know it's only a little thing but says a lot about the mindset to me.
Not the world's most exciting game. We probably had the better of the 1st half without getting much on target, went behind in the second but were rescued by Conor Washington. Could've taken the lead when Chuks hit the bar, but also handed Shrewsbury two gilt-edged chances towards the end that we were lucky they wasted.
The old guard the disappointments yet again. Just ooze players coming to the end of their careers and only going one direction on the form chart. I’d rather Smith and Morgan started in centre mid than Pratley and Watson.
There is a tiny tiny chance that we can make playoffs this season, we aren’t going down, so why not just attack teams? Try and actually play some sort of fluent football.
It just so boring and then becomes desperate. Not fun at all to watch.
This x100.
The future is NOT Prately & Watson. As we are neither going up or down this season it's time to start with young & hungry players that we can build a team around. Players like Morgan, Shinnie & DJ. Shame we have so many loanees that wont be here next season (Millar, Famewo, Maatsen & very likely Smith) and might be an idea to try out a couple of the U23's to see if they can step up. Now is the perfect time.
When you put 8 or above players in your defensive area you know we have trouble breaking through it. It has been what every team does against us at the Valley. We have to rely on beating the incompetent teams that play it as we don't have the answers against remotely competent ones. I think a physicality overload could be of interest but Bowyer doesn't even want to try it.
A point when a few weeks back we would have got none. Still capable of getting in the play offs. Lawrie Wilson to stare at, sorry listen to. Stevie Brown excellent comms. And Big Bob on Tuesday.
LLLBH 🙂
Oh well, we've moved on from "a few weeks ago we were staring oblivion in the face, at least we still have a club to support".
LLLBH. Is that our form? I know that L = "lost" but not sure what B and H stands for.
A point when a few weeks back we would have got none. Still capable of getting in the play offs. Lawrie Wilson to stare at, sorry listen to. Stevie Brown excellent comms. And Big Bob on Tuesday.
LLLBH 🙂
Oh well, we've moved on from "a few weeks ago we were staring oblivion in the face, at least we still have a club to support".
LLLBH. Is that our form? I know that L = "lost" but not sure what B and H stands for.
B = Bloody hell, we kept a clean sheet @ Oxford H = How the hell did we manage to win at home
A point when a few weeks back we would have got none. Still capable of getting in the play offs. Lawrie Wilson to stare at, sorry listen to. Stevie Brown excellent comms. And Big Bob on Tuesday.
LLLBH 🙂
Brilliant. Look forward to this fan mentality when a 1-1 at home to Shrewsbury genuinely is a good result. Mental
Washington did well again today , which is a bonus and Pearce had another good game , but they are the only positives for me . Not sure what has happened to Millar and Stockley and Maatsen gives the ball away far too much . We need JFC back for Tuesday .
The old guard the disappointments yet again. Just ooze players coming to the end of their careers and only going one direction on the form chart. I’d rather Smith and Morgan started in centre mid than Pratley and Watson.
There is a tiny tiny chance that we can make playoffs this season, we aren’t going down, so why not just attack teams? Try and actually play some sort of fluent football.
It just so boring and then becomes desperate. Not fun at all to watch.
This x100.
The future is NOT Prately & Watson. As we are neither going up or down this season it's time to start with young & hungry players that we can build a team around. Players like Morgan, Shinnie & DJ. Shame we have so many loanees that wont be here next season (Millar, Famewo, Maatsen & very likely Smith) and might be an idea to try out a couple of the U23's to see if they can step up. Now is the perfect time.
Thought we had a poor side in October, a couple of good signings in January to keep us safe and an outside chance of the playoffs. I have asked several times which of OUR players would you like to see us play in the Championship. We are a bang average side who have to work very hard for anything. Totally agree with golfie. Do a Chris Powell and find out who is good enough to step up game after game and see who can make the step up.
The one thing which wins matches is pace,we have none,Millar now a shadow of the player who joined us,Martsaan wont go forward any more,just stops and plays the ball back.I have said before,every team we play against has one or two players who run at us and cause problems,today,no different,Watson and Pratley offer no attacking threats at all,one of them fine,but both?.I dont think play offs are on now,it is time to give some of our youngsters a run out,instead of giving lads from other clubs valuable experience.
I told u about the Blackpool team talk - every game has followed this - oppo league scud have the ball, we create f all then they go for it start of second half and nick a goal or 2 - we are a poor team made worse by a poor manager - Gunter is abysmal and why we have to wait 60 minutes for chucks and shinnie is anybody’s guess - doesn’t matter really, we are nowhere near a promotion team
You also told us Washington offers nothing up front.
U shouldn’t hang in every word I say - I don’t get everything right - tbf Washington has upped his game massively the last 3 weeks since he’s come back in
I don't think have a poor group of player's. We have a group of player's playing poorly. Every player seems to have dropped their form from their former clubs.
Much spoke on club site about Watson maybe wanting a final year on his contract. If it was based on today's showing, he wouldn't get another week. Aside Maatsen won't be coming back, neither will Millar. Our defence is like a static caravan. Up front Chuks was strolling around like a bloke in a night club trying to pick up girls. There was very little urgency or skill shown today. Shrewsbury only ever looked like they were coming for a point. They very nearly got all three. It keeps happening, getting results that reflect the performance. We aren't unlucky. We are out of form. Out paced. Out played. Out performed. Bowyer doesn't have a clue what to do to turn it around. "You don't know what you're doing" would have been sung loud and clear if The Valley had fans in today. Boo's would be a regular occurrence during and post games too.
A point when a few weeks back we would have got none. Still capable of getting in the play offs. Lawrie Wilson to stare at, sorry listen to. Stevie Brown excellent comms. And Big Bob on Tuesday.
LLLBH 🙂
Brilliant. Look forward to this fan mentality when a 1-1 at home to Shrewsbury genuinely is a good result. Mental
I just refuse to let you lot drag me down into your cesspit of doom.
We seem to have 2 modes Attacking - we create lots of chances, but also leak goals for fun Defensive - we look solid, but look pretty toothless up front
Indeed we saw both modes in this match, with a solid, "professional" first half with the Watson and Pratley in which we created little, and a kamikaze last 15 when we brought on attacking players and lost the plot defensively. It does feel that despite all the players we have, we still haven't managed to get the balance right between defending and creating.
A very comprehensive report from the Shrewsbury pov. One geographical howler aside, worth a read. An interesting comment near the start which shows that other people think about us
The flurry of late drama left the visitors, without boss Steve Cotterill and led by Aaron Wilbraham, a little disappointed with just a share of the spoils.
It also highlights the progress made by Salop against a good Charlton side, who were well below what their talented side should be capable of.
Barnsley had great success with their model of german managers. Very high press that is impossible to play through, even chelsea struggled. And very direct passes into space.
Boring game and we were a bit fortunate to get draw.
Washington did well.
Millar is out of form and maybe would benefit from coming on as a sub against a tiring defence. Thing is....when he plays badly, so do we.
We missed JFC.
DJ doesn't look great at the moment.
I'm sure this lad must have a lot more ability than he has shown so far.
But at the moment he looks like a kid who has won a competition to play for a few minutes with the first team.
How on earth have we managed to change someone who was a firm favourite at his previous club into someone who looks lost in only a few weeks?
Manager throwing people under the bus.
Manager who didnt want him in the first place7
Manager who doesn't want to play with wingers
Manager who decimates a players confidence by continually dropping players, bringing then back, and then dropping them again.
DJ was ripping it up in this League before xmas. 6 weeks here & now he's (suppodsely) non-league standard. For one I don't think it's the players fault.
A very comprehensive report from the Shrewsbury pov. One geographical howler aside, worth a read. An interesting comment near the start which shows that other people think about us
The flurry of late drama left the visitors, without boss Steve Cotterill and led by Aaron Wilbraham, a little disappointed with just a share of the spoils.
It also highlights the progress made by Salop against a good Charlton side, who were well below what their talented side should be capable of.
Pratley and Watson in the middle and morgan on the right of a flat 4 midfield your having a laugh Bowyer. Absolute sick of this shit, his love for Pratley and Watson has killed us this season.
Yeah but they wouldn’t dare jump out of a tackle.
The whole playing side of the club needs a re-think...and yes that starts with the head coach.
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A point when a few weeks back we would have got none.
Still capable of getting in the play offs.
Lawrie Wilson to stare at, sorry listen to.
Stevie Brown excellent comms.
And Big Bob on Tuesday.
LLLBH 🙂
Goals scored are a real concern.
Goals are only scored by our forwards. Our defenders and midfielders rarely score.
In 2019 we had Aribo & Belik scoring regularly from midfield. This doesn’t happen any more. You cannot be successful with just 1 or 2 people scoring.
Tactically we are shite, so predictable. Every move forward is the same.
Something needs to change.
Urgency levels dropped to a very low level when we scored. And not just on the pitch.
Why when the ball went into the stands did everyone on our bench just stand there watch and wait for some bloke to go waddling off to retrieve it? Why wasn't a row of balls ready and waiting to be given straight back? I know it's only a little thing but says a lot about the mindset to me.
We should ban that word until August now. Zero chance this season.
The future is NOT Prately & Watson. As we are neither going up or down this season it's time to start with young & hungry players that we can build a team around. Players like Morgan, Shinnie & DJ. Shame we have so many loanees that wont be here next season (Millar, Famewo, Maatsen & very likely Smith) and might be an idea to try out a couple of the U23's to see if they can step up. Now is the perfect time.
LLLBH. Is that our form? I know that L = "lost" but not sure what B and H stands for.
H = How the hell did we manage to win at home
Totally agree with golfie. Do a Chris Powell and find out who is good enough to step up game after game and see who can make the step up.
Much spoke on club site about Watson maybe wanting a final year on his contract. If it was based on today's showing, he wouldn't get another week. Aside Maatsen won't be coming back, neither will Millar. Our defence is like a static caravan. Up front Chuks was strolling around like a bloke in a night club trying to pick up girls. There was very little urgency or skill shown today. Shrewsbury only ever looked like they were coming for a point. They very nearly got all three. It keeps happening, getting results that reflect the performance. We aren't unlucky. We are out of form. Out paced. Out played. Out performed. Bowyer doesn't have a clue what to do to turn it around. "You don't know what you're doing" would have been sung loud and clear if The Valley had fans in today. Boo's would be a regular occurrence during and post games too.
It's up to Thomas!
I been watching too long.
But don’t let me stop you Mr Happy 🙂
Attacking - we create lots of chances, but also leak goals for fun
Defensive - we look solid, but look pretty toothless up front
Indeed we saw both modes in this match, with a solid, "professional" first half with the Watson and Pratley in which we created little, and a kamikaze last 15 when we brought on attacking players and lost the plot defensively. It does feel that despite all the players we have, we still haven't managed to get the balance right between defending and creating.
A very comprehensive report from the Shrewsbury pov. One geographical howler aside, worth a read. An interesting comment near the start which shows that other people think about us
Manager who didnt want him in the first place7
Manager who doesn't want to play with wingers
Manager who decimates a players confidence by continually dropping players, bringing then back, and then dropping them again.
DJ was ripping it up in this League before xmas. 6 weeks here & now he's (suppodsely) non-league standard. For one I don't think it's the players fault.
At 2pm today it was clear it hadn't. Changed my mind about buying the stream and went for a bike ride.
..just find it odd that something is so, so obvious even to the untrained eye of your average fan yet it keeps happening.
The whole playing side of the club needs a re-think...and yes that starts with the head coach.