Been really rough for over a week now. Cough, cold and zero energy. Done a few tests which have all come up negative but feel exactly as I did when I had Covid (apart from not losing my taste).
We've been feeling the same for over three weeks now - quite a few guests at our son's wedding on the 4 May have had the same so must have been a bug that's doing the rounds. None has tested positive for Covid.
I'm still feeling like shit. Got prescribed antibiotics for a chest infection 3 weeks ago and went back last week as still feeling rough. Infection has gone but doc said it could take a while before I start to feel back to normal. Fed up with it now.
"At the pivotal point of Pfizer's vaccine approval in December 2020, there was a gross misrepresentation in what was presented publicly. Instead of the 6 deaths publicly disclosed, 4 placebo, 2 vaccinated, suggesting a benefit of vaccination, there were in fact 11 deaths with more deaths in the vaccinated arm.... We found undisclosed deaths especially in the vaccinated arm of this clinical trial, in contravention to legal and ethical obligations of trial sponsors."
Dr Jeyanthi Kunadhasan, testifying before an Australian Senate Committee that in Pfizer’s own clinical trial there were more deaths in the vaccinated group than the placebo group.
If this is proven its unacceptable and there will be hell to pay for the company.
Just 2 observations from someone who's wife has experience in the industry. It's not clear from what's been disclosed what tests applies to. It may not have been the UK tests.
This is fraud by the company allegedly and if proven but nothing wrong on the part of the regulator who within reasonable steps to ensure quality have to accept the pharma companies data as scientifically accurate.
Drug company Moderna says its combined flu and Covid vaccine, which targets the two diseases in a single shot, has passed a vital part of final-stage scientific checks.
The phase-three trial shows the vaccine arms the body with protective antibodies.
And it does so as effectively as separate flu and Covid shots, results suggest.
From September 2024, pregnant people and children will be offered a free flu vaccine.
Pregnant people may be offered the flu vaccine at their local maternity service. They can also go to their local pharmacy or GP surgery.
School-aged children will be offered a nasal spray flu vaccine through their school. Those aged 2-3 years old (on 31 August 2024) and in clinical risk groups can get a free flu vaccine at their GP surgery. For more information, visit the NHS website.
From 3 October 2024 the flu vaccine will be available to other eligible adults, including
people aged 65 or over
people with certain long term health conditions
those that live in a care home
carers
people who live with someone with a weakened immune system
Bookings can be made from the 23 September on the NHS App or online at www.nhs.uk/bookflu. Those that can’t get online can call 119 for free where translators will also be available. Details of walk in clinics will be shared shortly.
Frontline health and social care workers can get their flu vaccine through their employer.
COVID-19 vaccination
From the 3 October a free COVID-19 vaccine will also be offered to:
adults aged 65 years and over
residents in a care home for older adults
individuals aged 6 months to 64 years in a clinical risk group (such as diabetes, heart disease, some neurological diseases, liver disease or a weakened immune system)
pregnant people
Bookings can be made from the 23 September on the NHS App or online at www.nhs.uk/bookcovid. Those that can’t get online can call 119 for free where translators will also be available. Details of walk in clinics will be shared shortly.
There has been a big campaign to use up to date vaccines this autumn as originally the JCVI said that we would use last year's stock. They finally agreed that the UK will use an updated version tailored to the JN1 variant, which was prevalent earlier this year.
The problem with Covid is that it has not set into a seasonal pattern like flu, because of the lack of mitigations to prevent its spread. With so many people becoming infected the greater the chance of new variants emerging, making it very difficult to keep up to date with the vaccines.
It is by no means a given that each new variant will be milder then its predecessors and I have heard a lot of people saying that they have felt very ill after testing positive both in the summer and recently, now we appear to be in another new wave.
Covid is very much still with us and with it being predominantly spread by aerosol, becoming infected indoors without the benefit of filtration and good ventilation is likely, many will suffer from Long Covid and staff sickness will cause problems for many employers. The cost to the economy is huge and the growing evidence that the Sars Cov-2 virus can cause so much damage throughout the body, is going to have repercussions for the NHS for many years to come.
My husband and I have our Covid & Flu jabs booked for 5th October.
I tested positive after a wedding in the summer - couple of days of feeling tired and headachey as per the two previous times I'd had it. Then about 10 days later I started getting a new batch of thoroughly disconcerting symptoms after testing the waters with an easy jog - waves of confusion and forgetfulness, random chest pains, numbness, intense fatigue, etc. Now approaching 11 weeks since the positive test and it seems to be heading in the right direction but I'm having to work with my boss to manage my meeting schedule at work - more than an hour without a break and I get really mentally tired and mildly confused. It's not technically 'long covid' yet because it hasn't been 12 weeks but feels like something I'll be managing for a while yet. It's taken me a lot longer to type this out than it would've done before this started!
For context: I'm 35 and in good shape, prior to this was running/playing football 3 or 4 times a week and working towards a 20 minute 5K time.
Assuming safe to do so (for me) I'll absolutely be investing in a private jab at Boots ahead of the winter, and will then get one whenever I can moving forward. I'd had the ones everyone got back a couple of years ago but none since they were restricted to the most at-risk groups.
It's still early days with all this but there seems to be evidence that your chances of long-term effects increase with each reinfection, and evidence that vaccination can reduce the risk/severity of long-term effects.
Sharing here just in case helpful for anyone on the fence about getting a jab, or for anyone who - like me prior to this - had pushed the whole thing to the back of their mind. I didn't know what I now know about reinfection and will definitely be thinking twice about indoor events through the winter, sad as it is. Just hoping NJ doesn't get us playing so well that the West Upper starts to get cramped...
I tested positive after a wedding in the summer - couple of days of feeling tired and headachey as per the two previous times I'd had it. Then about 10 days later I started getting a new batch of thoroughly disconcerting symptoms after testing the waters with an easy jog - waves of confusion and forgetfulness, random chest pains, numbness, intense fatigue, etc. Now approaching 11 weeks since the positive test and it seems to be heading in the right direction but I'm having to work with my boss to manage my meeting schedule at work - more than an hour without a break and I get really mentally tired and mildly confused. It's not technically 'long covid' yet because it hasn't been 12 weeks but feels like something I'll be managing for a while yet. It's taken me a lot longer to type this out than it would've done before this started!
For context: I'm 35 and in good shape, prior to this was running/playing football 3 or 4 times a week and working towards a 20 minute 5K time.
Assuming safe to do so (for me) I'll absolutely be investing in a private jab at Boots ahead of the winter, and will then get one whenever I can moving forward. I'd had the ones everyone got back a couple of years ago but none since they were restricted to the most at-risk groups.
It's still early days with all this but there seems to be evidence that your chances of long-term effects increase with each reinfection, and evidence that vaccination can reduce the risk/severity of long-term effects.
Sharing here just in case helpful for anyone on the fence about getting a jab, or for anyone who - like me prior to this - had pushed the whole thing to the back of their mind. I didn't know what I now know about reinfection and will definitely be thinking twice about indoor events through the winter, sad as it is. Just hoping NJ doesn't get us playing so well that the West Upper starts to get cramped...
I'm sorry to hear you are suffering, from everything I have read, the most important thing is to rest and not push yourself too hard.
I tested positive after a wedding in the summer - couple of days of feeling tired and headachey as per the two previous times I'd had it. Then about 10 days later I started getting a new batch of thoroughly disconcerting symptoms after testing the waters with an easy jog - waves of confusion and forgetfulness, random chest pains, numbness, intense fatigue, etc. Now approaching 11 weeks since the positive test and it seems to be heading in the right direction but I'm having to work with my boss to manage my meeting schedule at work - more than an hour without a break and I get really mentally tired and mildly confused. It's not technically 'long covid' yet because it hasn't been 12 weeks but feels like something I'll be managing for a while yet. It's taken me a lot longer to type this out than it would've done before this started!
For context: I'm 35 and in good shape, prior to this was running/playing football 3 or 4 times a week and working towards a 20 minute 5K time.
Assuming safe to do so (for me) I'll absolutely be investing in a private jab at Boots ahead of the winter, and will then get one whenever I can moving forward. I'd had the ones everyone got back a couple of years ago but none since they were restricted to the most at-risk groups.
It's still early days with all this but there seems to be evidence that your chances of long-term effects increase with each reinfection, and evidence that vaccination can reduce the risk/severity of long-term effects.
Sharing here just in case helpful for anyone on the fence about getting a jab, or for anyone who - like me prior to this - had pushed the whole thing to the back of their mind. I didn't know what I now know about reinfection and will definitely be thinking twice about indoor events through the winter, sad as it is. Just hoping NJ doesn't get us playing so well that the West Upper starts to get cramped...
I'm sorry to hear you are suffering, from everything I have read, the most important thingh is to rest and not push yourself too hard.
I’ve been ill now since Monday and Covid positive. This strain is a c***…it has really knocked me for six. Headaches are unbearable, muscle aches, runny nose and a cough that’s painful. Also my taste buds are inactive. I’ve never taken so many ibuprofen, paracetamols, Lemsips, nightnurse, high strength Vitamin C, Vit B1 and magnesium.
I’m really looking forward to some respite on Thursday.
I received a text from my health centre today to book a flu jab but now wanting the next Covid jab. I would wish this Covid strain on anybody.
I’ve been ill now since Monday and Covid positive. This strain is a c***…it has really knocked me for six. Headaches are unbearable, muscle aches, runny nose and a cough that’s painful. Also my taste buds are inactive. I’ve never taken so many ibuprofen, paracetamols, Lemsips, nightnurse, high strength Vitamin C, Vit B1 and magnesium.
I’m really looking forward to some respite on Thursday.
I received a text from my health centre today to book a flu jab but now wanting the next Covid jab. I would wish this Covid strain on anybody.
I’ve been ill now since Monday and Covid positive. This strain is a c***…it has really knocked me for six. Headaches are unbearable, muscle aches, runny nose and a cough that’s painful. Also my taste buds are inactive. I’ve never taken so many ibuprofen, paracetamols, Lemsips, nightnurse, high strength Vitamin C, Vit B1 and magnesium.
I’m really looking forward to some respite on Thursday.
I received a text from my health centre today to book a flu jab but now wanting the next Covid jab. I would wish this Covid strain on anybody.
Snap, since last Thursday/Friday
Cough is awful, my legs feel worse than when I did the London to Amsterdam cycle and my arms just feel dead. I'm hoping it passes soon as with the additional lack of sleep I'm just totally wiped out.
I’ve been ill now since Monday and Covid positive. This strain is a c***…it has really knocked me for six. Headaches are unbearable, muscle aches, runny nose and a cough that’s painful. Also my taste buds are inactive. I’ve never taken so many ibuprofen, paracetamols, Lemsips, nightnurse, high strength Vitamin C, Vit B1 and magnesium.
I’m really looking forward to some respite on Thursday.
I received a text from my health centre today to book a flu jab but now wanting the next Covid jab. I would wish this Covid strain on anybody.
Hope you feel better soon. Would be interesting to know exactly what variant you’ve been infected with. Although XEC is here it’s still at present only a very very small percentage of Covid infections. The reasons it would be fascinating to know exactly is for knowing if your nasty illness is the new variant or is it that the previous vaccines you have taken are not now anywhere near as effective ? Important consideration for all of us going into the winter.
I’ve been ill now since Monday and Covid positive. This strain is a c***…it has really knocked me for six. Headaches are unbearable, muscle aches, runny nose and a cough that’s painful. Also my taste buds are inactive. I’ve never taken so many ibuprofen, paracetamols, Lemsips, nightnurse, high strength Vitamin C, Vit B1 and magnesium.
I’m really looking forward to some respite on Thursday.
I received a text from my health centre today to book a flu jab but now wanting the next Covid jab. I would wish this Covid strain on anybody.
Pretty much describes my experience with it. Luckily it only really lasted four days, but was horrendous - and I've basically had a headache for three days since getting over it. My mate has had it for over a fortnight now and still looks and sounds like death warmed up.
Not sure what to do?, my wife always gets a reaction to the Covid injections, flu like symptoms for a few days, I am more lucky, have had a slightly warm shoulder for a few hours, and only had I bout of Covid , over two years ago, and was recovering from a Knee cap replacement, so I was not infectious before the op, and stayed in doors, just hobbled down to the promenade, took in the sea air, and hobbled back. Had a slight cough took a test, Covid!. Neither of us developed any other effects.
Did not get the Covid last year, but had the Flu jab, will probably do the same this year as I had suffered from chest infections previously.
I am 73, mobility not great, but can get about.
My family are all anti-vax, but fit. Probably kidding myself that I can swerve the Covid, but unless my wife has the injection, seems pretty pointless me having mine.?
Probably more in favour of having the Covid injection, if I am honest, is it me or are people still divided? .
Only just getting over COVID, thankfully highly vaccinated so the effects weren't too bad, but did stop the immunosuppressants for a couple of days to help.
Not sure what to do?, my wife always gets a reaction to the Covid injections, flu like symptoms for a few days, I am more lucky, have had a slightly warm shoulder for a few hours, and only had I bout of Covid , over two years ago, and was recovering from a Knee cap replacement, so I was not infectious before the op, and stayed in doors, just hobbled down to the promenade, took in the sea air, and hobbled back. Had a slight cough took a test, Covid!. Neither of us developed any other effects.
Did not get the Covid last year, but had the Flu jab, will probably do the same this year as I had suffered from chest infections previously.
I am 73, mobility not great, but can get about.
My family are all anti-vax, but fit. Probably kidding myself that I can swerve the Covid, but unless my wife has the injection, seems pretty pointless me having mine.?
Probably more in favour of having the Covid injection, if I am honest, is it me or are people still divided? .
'Dithering of Hythe'
Good to see you posting Ken. Obviously nobody can or should advise you. It’s your decision but you mention you suffer from chest infections. It might be well worth considering both flu and Covid booster, particularly as you missed the updated Covid vaccine last winter. Just a thought.
I’ve been ill now since Monday and Covid positive. This strain is a c***…it has really knocked me for six. Headaches are unbearable, muscle aches, runny nose and a cough that’s painful. Also my taste buds are inactive. I’ve never taken so many ibuprofen, paracetamols, Lemsips, nightnurse, high strength Vitamin C, Vit B1 and magnesium.
I’m really looking forward to some respite on Thursday.
I received a text from my health centre today to book a flu jab but now wanting the next Covid jab. I would wish this Covid strain on anybody.
Hope you feel better soon. Would be interesting to know exactly what variant you’ve been infected with. Although XEC is here it’s still at present only a very very small percentage of Covid infections. The reasons it would be fascinating to know exactly is for knowing if your nasty illness is the new variant or is it that the previous vaccines you have taken are not now anywhere near as effective ? Important consideration for all of us going into the winter.
When almost all surveillance has been stopped in this country, it's hard to know which variants are circulating.
I’ve been ill now since Monday and Covid positive. This strain is a c***…it has really knocked me for six. Headaches are unbearable, muscle aches, runny nose and a cough that’s painful. Also my taste buds are inactive. I’ve never taken so many ibuprofen, paracetamols, Lemsips, nightnurse, high strength Vitamin C, Vit B1 and magnesium.
I’m really looking forward to some respite on Thursday.
I received a text from my health centre today to book a flu jab but now wanting the next Covid jab. I would wish this Covid strain on anybody.
Hope you feel better soon. Would be interesting to know exactly what variant you’ve been infected with. Although XEC is here it’s still at present only a very very small percentage of Covid infections. The reasons it would be fascinating to know exactly is for knowing if your nasty illness is the new variant or is it that the previous vaccines you have taken are not now anywhere near as effective ? Important consideration for all of us going into the winter.
When almost all surveillance has been stopped in this country, it's hard to know which variants are circulating.
Cna confirm, the latest variant is an absolute wounder 😭
So, is this new variant, which sounds so bad from accounts above, the JN1 variant?
JN1 was the dominant variant last winter but the expected dominant variant is XEC. It’s already around but still not as yet claimed the number one spot, but by January that’s very likely. Still early days but although it apparently has advantages and is easier to spread it’s unclear as to whether it’s going to be “nastier” than earlier recent variants. The latest Covid vaccine has not been tweaked to allow for XEC but is still expected to prevent serious illness in vulnerable groups.
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Just 2 observations from someone who's wife has experience in the industry. It's not clear from what's been disclosed what tests applies to. It may not have been the UK tests.
This is fraud by the company allegedly and if proven but nothing wrong on the part of the regulator who within reasonable steps to ensure quality have to accept the pharma companies data as scientifically accurate.
Drug company Moderna says its combined flu and Covid vaccine, which targets the two diseases in a single shot, has passed a vital part of final-stage scientific checks.
The phase-three trial shows the vaccine arms the body with protective antibodies.
And it does so as effectively as separate flu and Covid shots, results suggest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ck55l4rk8z1o
Bit earlier I believe SHG - we've got our Covid and Flu jabs on 3 October at the GP surgery.
Vaccination services in south east London
Flu vaccination
From September 2024, pregnant people and children will be offered a free flu vaccine.
Pregnant people may be offered the flu vaccine at their local maternity service. They can also go to their local pharmacy or GP surgery.
School-aged children will be offered a nasal spray flu vaccine through their school. Those aged 2-3 years old (on 31 August 2024) and in clinical risk groups can get a free flu vaccine at their GP surgery. For more information, visit the NHS website.
From 3 October 2024 the flu vaccine will be available to other eligible adults, including
Bookings can be made from the 23 September on the NHS App or online at www.nhs.uk/bookflu. Those that can’t get online can call 119 for free where translators will also be available. Details of walk in clinics will be shared shortly.
Frontline health and social care workers can get their flu vaccine through their employer.
COVID-19 vaccination
From the 3 October a free COVID-19 vaccine will also be offered to:
Bookings can be made from the 23 September on the NHS App or online at www.nhs.uk/bookcovid. Those that can’t get online can call 119 for free where translators will also be available. Details of walk in clinics will be shared shortly.
For more information, visit the NHS website.
https://www.selondonics.org/our-residents/your-health/local-nhs-services/spring-covid-19-vaccination/#walk-in
The problem with Covid is that it has not set into a seasonal pattern like flu, because of the lack of mitigations to prevent its spread. With so many people becoming infected the greater the chance of new variants emerging, making it very difficult to keep up to date with the vaccines.
It is by no means a given that each new variant will be milder then its predecessors and I have heard a lot of people saying that they have felt very ill after testing positive both in the summer and recently, now we appear to be in another new wave.
Covid is very much still with us and with it being predominantly spread by aerosol, becoming infected indoors without the benefit of filtration and good ventilation is likely, many will suffer from Long Covid and staff sickness will cause problems for many employers. The cost to the economy is huge and the growing evidence that the Sars Cov-2 virus can cause so much damage throughout the body, is going to have repercussions for the NHS for many years to come.
My husband and I have our Covid & Flu jabs booked for 5th October.
For context: I'm 35 and in good shape, prior to this was running/playing football 3 or 4 times a week and working towards a 20 minute 5K time.
Assuming safe to do so (for me) I'll absolutely be investing in a private jab at Boots ahead of the winter, and will then get one whenever I can moving forward. I'd had the ones everyone got back a couple of years ago but none since they were restricted to the most at-risk groups.
It's still early days with all this but there seems to be evidence that your chances of long-term effects increase with each reinfection, and evidence that vaccination can reduce the risk/severity of long-term effects.
Sharing here just in case helpful for anyone on the fence about getting a jab, or for anyone who - like me prior to this - had pushed the whole thing to the back of their mind. I didn't know what I now know about reinfection and will definitely be thinking twice about indoor events through the winter, sad as it is. Just hoping NJ doesn't get us playing so well that the West Upper starts to get cramped...
I hope you feel better soon.
Cough is awful, my legs feel worse than when I did the London to Amsterdam cycle and my arms just feel dead. I'm hoping it passes soon as with the additional lack of sleep I'm just totally wiped out.
Really blew my mind when back home how much signage etc is still around.
Brutal.
Did not get the Covid last year, but had the Flu jab, will probably do the same this year as I had suffered from chest infections previously.
I am 73, mobility not great, but can get about.
My family are all anti-vax, but fit. Probably kidding myself that I can swerve the Covid, but unless my wife has the injection, seems pretty pointless me having mine.?
Probably more in favour of having the Covid injection, if I am honest, is it me or are people still divided? .
'Dithering of Hythe'