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Conor Washington - now at Derby (p26)

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  • How many chances did he place straight at the keeper, most of them from what I remember.
  • Anyone wanting Washington back and thinking he's the answer clearly didn't watch last season. 

    We need a striker that can score and finish off chances in the box. Washington isn't that. 
    If he was a better finisher he wouldn't have been at L1 level. We have to be realistic.
    You're speaking as if we never had strikers that could finish. 

    Or that other teams in League One also don't have strikers that can score. 

    Washington and Stockley this season have a grand total of 2 goals. 

    Colby Bishop (signed this transfer window) has 4. 
  • Scoham said:
    se9addick said:
    Started every match for a team that’s 5th in the Championship. 
    And scored once. Richard Wood is out scoring him with 3!
    Wood seems to be getting better and better. Been at Rotherham since he left us, and last season was the most games he's played for them in a season
  • edited August 2022
    Anyone wanting Washington back and thinking he's the answer clearly didn't watch last season. 

    We need a striker that can score and finish off chances in the box. Washington isn't that. 
    If he was a better finisher he wouldn't have been at L1 level. We have to be realistic.
    You're speaking as if we never had strikers that could finish.
    Did we keep them for long at this level?

    Karlan Grant and Lyle Taylor are the prolific two we had...

    We lost one because he was out of Contract in the coming summer and had to get a fee or nothing for him. We only kept the Taylor because he was under Contract, but still left the moment he could, and still wanted to go straight after we won promotion as he wanted to go Brentford.

    Mendonca | Hunt | Bent | Kermorgant are the prolific Strikers we've truly kept hold of in recent years.

    Could add Wright-Phillips, but League One in England was clearly his ceiling level
  • Anyone wanting Washington back and thinking he's the answer clearly didn't watch last season. 

    We need a striker that can score and finish off chances in the box. Washington isn't that. 
    The point being in the absence of that Washington would have been a useful addition to what we currently have.

    If we sign a striker/ goalscorer as good as or better than Washington in next few days then I'll be glad and will see it as an improvement or at least match for what we had...if we don't it will seem very foolhardy that we didn't retain him.

    Particularly as he's a key man in a Championship side.
  • Just needs to do that more often Callum, which I do agree with in terms of the criticism towards him - Its ridiculous how he can score chances like that, and like his goal @ Morecambe last season, but will often fluff what appears an "easy" opportunity.
  • Anyone wanting Washington back and thinking he's the answer clearly didn't watch last season. 

    We need a striker that can score and finish off chances in the box. Washington isn't that. 
    If he was a better finisher he wouldn't have been at L1 level. We have to be realistic.
    You're speaking as if we never had strikers that could finish. 

    Or that other teams in League One also don't have strikers that can score. 

    Washington and Stockley this season have a grand total of 2 goals. 

    Colby Bishop (signed this transfer window) has 4. 
    Averaged about 1 goal in three games for us at L1 level - decent return. There aren't loads of decent strikers at this level and we certainly haven't found them.
  • He would have scored one goal for us from open play but missed the penalty that Stockley scored. That's how it rolls at Charlton!
  • He was trying to cross it to no one and got lucky.
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  • edited August 2022
    sam3110 said:
    Haha the people on here clutching at straws about him "not having an impact" or "always being subbed off", but failing to see that he's starting every game, for a team a division above us, who are, in the early stages of the season, in the Playoff spots.

    He's moved on, to a team higher up, and is playing every week, maybe you didn't rate him, but clearly right now the Rotherham manager does
    you can give him a good reception next season when they inevitably get relegated. Rotherham in 5th is the falsest of false positions at this stage of the season.
  • How many has he scored in the other games? 

    Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.
  • edited August 2022
    How many has he scored in the other games? 

    Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.
    A goal is a fucking goal... Its genuinely pathetic how people (YOU) are desperate to discredit someone just because they think one goal compared to another is "meaningless" - Especially when the likes of Schwarz was slaughtered on here for such a "meaningless" penalty miss against Oxford
  • 5 games, 1 goal, 0 assists. 

    Subbed off every single game at the hour mark.

    Seems about right. 
    A goal that the keeper saves 99/100
  • edited August 2022
    How many has he scored in the other games? 

    Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.
    A goal is a fucking goal... Its genuinely pathetic how people (YOU) are desperate to discredit someone just because they think one goal compared to another is "meaningless" - Especially when the likes of Schwarz was slaughtered on here for such a "meaningless" penalty miss against Oxford
    No, I'm saying that if Washington was in our squad right now we would still be crying out for a striker. 

    He doesn't fit the style, he doesn't fit the formation and he doesn't fit as a lone striker. 

    If he fancies turning himself into a winger then sure thing but even then we need to look at the 0 assists he provides. 
  • Of our goalkeeper was beaten from that angle after ducking under the ball, he would get pelters. 
  • se9addick said:
    Started every match for a team that’s 5th in the Championship. 
    Rotherham 1 Swansea 1
    Rotherham 4 Reading 0
    Preston 0 Rotherham 0
    QPR 1 Rotherham 1
    Rotherham 2 Birmingham 0

    There's no denying Rotherham are doing very well.
    Also, they've had a really easy start.
  • se9addick said:
    Started every match for a team that’s 5th in the Championship. 
    Rotherham 1 Swansea 1
    Rotherham 4 Reading 0
    Preston 0 Rotherham 0
    QPR 1 Rotherham 1
    Rotherham 2 Birmingham 0

    There's no denying Rotherham are doing very well.
    Also, they've had a really easy start.
    Like thrashing the team top of the league? 
  • you got some videos of his other finishes for Rotherham? 

    FA is spot on, at times he finished like a top player but it’s all about consistency. Showing him scoring the occasional good goal is fairly meaningless if/when he’s missing other chances.
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  • Well that’s it then, Rotherham are as good as in the PL and Washington is going to be their player of the season, it was a massive mistake letting him go.




    This is all based on him scoring one goal mind.
  • How many has he scored in the other games? 

    Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.
    A goal is a fucking goal... Its genuinely pathetic how people (YOU) are desperate to discredit someone just because they think one goal compared to another is "meaningless" - Especially when the likes of Schwarz was slaughtered on here for such a "meaningless" penalty miss against Oxford
    No, I'm saying that if Washington was in our squad right now we would still be crying out for a striker. 

    He doesn't fit the style, he doesn't fit the formation and he doesn't fit as a lone striker. 

    If he fancies turning himself into a winger then sure thing but even then we need to look at the 0 assists he provides. 
    You’re right. That’s not, however, what you initially said at all. 
  • How many has he scored in the other games? 

    Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.
    A goal is a fucking goal... Its genuinely pathetic how people (YOU) are desperate to discredit someone just because they think one goal compared to another is "meaningless" - Especially when the likes of Schwarz was slaughtered on here for such a "meaningless" penalty miss against Oxford
    No, I'm saying that if Washington was in our squad right now we would still be crying out for a striker. 

    He doesn't fit the style, he doesn't fit the formation and he doesn't fit as a lone striker. 

    If he fancies turning himself into a winger then sure thing but even then we need to look at the 0 assists he provides. 
    You’re right. That’s not, however, what you initially said at all. 
    How many has he scored in the other games? 

    Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.
    A goal is a fucking goal... Its genuinely pathetic how people (YOU) are desperate to discredit someone just because they think one goal compared to another is "meaningless" - Especially when the likes of Schwarz was slaughtered on here for such a "meaningless" penalty miss against Oxford
    No, I'm saying that if Washington was in our squad right now we would still be crying out for a striker. 

    He doesn't fit the style, he doesn't fit the formation and he doesn't fit as a lone striker. 

    If he fancies turning himself into a winger then sure thing but even then we need to look at the 0 assists he provides. 
    You’re right. That’s not, however, what you initially said at all. 
    "Anyone wanting Washington back and thinking he's the answer clearly didn't watch last season. 

    We need a striker that can score and finish off chances in the box. Washington isn't that. "

    Is what I initially said. 
  • se9addick said:
    Started every match for a team that’s 5th in the Championship. 
    Rotherham 1 Swansea 1
    Rotherham 4 Reading 0
    Preston 0 Rotherham 0
    QPR 1 Rotherham 1
    Rotherham 2 Birmingham 0

    There's no denying Rotherham are doing very well.
    Also, they've had a really easy start.
    Like thrashing the team top of the league? 
    Yes, Reading, another team that have had a really easy start.

    Blackpool 1 Reading 0
    Reading 2 Cardiff 1
    Reading 1 Stevenage 2 (cup)
    Rotherham 4 Reading 0
    Reading 3 Blackburn 0
    Reading 1 Middlesbrough 0
    Millwall 0 Reading 1
  • edited August 2022
    How many has he scored in the other games? 

    Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.
    A goal is a fucking goal... Its genuinely pathetic how people (YOU) are desperate to discredit someone just because they think one goal compared to another is "meaningless" - Especially when the likes of Schwarz was slaughtered on here for such a "meaningless" penalty miss against Oxford
    No, I'm saying that if Washington was in our squad right now we would still be crying out for a striker. 

    He doesn't fit the style, he doesn't fit the formation and he doesn't fit as a lone striker. 

    If he fancies turning himself into a winger then sure thing but even then we need to look at the 0 assists he provides. 
    You’re right. That’s not, however, what you initially said at all. 
    How many has he scored in the other games? 

    Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.
    A goal is a fucking goal... Its genuinely pathetic how people (YOU) are desperate to discredit someone just because they think one goal compared to another is "meaningless" - Especially when the likes of Schwarz was slaughtered on here for such a "meaningless" penalty miss against Oxford
    No, I'm saying that if Washington was in our squad right now we would still be crying out for a striker. 

    He doesn't fit the style, he doesn't fit the formation and he doesn't fit as a lone striker. 

    If he fancies turning himself into a winger then sure thing but even then we need to look at the 0 assists he provides. 
    You’re right. That’s not, however, what you initially said at all. 
    "Anyone wanting Washington back and thinking he's the answer clearly didn't watch last season. 

    We need a striker that can score and finish off chances in the box. Washington isn't that. "

    Is what I initially said. 
    "Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless."

    Is what you said though... No?

    And its that comment that I was replying to
  • se9addick said:
    Started every match for a team that’s 5th in the Championship. 
    Rotherham 1 Swansea 1
    Rotherham 4 Reading 0
    Preston 0 Rotherham 0
    QPR 1 Rotherham 1
    Rotherham 2 Birmingham 0

    There's no denying Rotherham are doing very well.
    Also, they've had a really easy start.
    Like thrashing the team top of the league? 
    Yes, Reading, another team that have had a really easy start.

    Blackpool 1 Reading 0
    Reading 2 Cardiff 1
    Reading 1 Stevenage 2 (cup)
    Rotherham 4 Reading 0
    Reading 3 Blackburn 0
    Reading 1 Middlesbrough 0
    Millwall 0 Reading 1
    It’s so competitive I just don’t see it that clubs have “easy starts”. Besides, Blackburn, Boro and Millwall finished 7th, 8th and 9th last season. I think there’s a case that they’ve lost the easier two. 
  • That goal wouldn’t have happened with Navy Starr at left back!
  • How many has he scored in the other games? 

    Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.
    A goal is a fucking goal... Its genuinely pathetic how people (YOU) are desperate to discredit someone just because they think one goal compared to another is "meaningless" - Especially when the likes of Schwarz was slaughtered on here for such a "meaningless" penalty miss against Oxford
    No, I'm saying that if Washington was in our squad right now we would still be crying out for a striker. 

    He doesn't fit the style, he doesn't fit the formation and he doesn't fit as a lone striker. 

    If he fancies turning himself into a winger then sure thing but even then we need to look at the 0 assists he provides. 
    You’re right. That’s not, however, what you initially said at all. 
    How many has he scored in the other games? 

    Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.
    A goal is a fucking goal... Its genuinely pathetic how people (YOU) are desperate to discredit someone just because they think one goal compared to another is "meaningless" - Especially when the likes of Schwarz was slaughtered on here for such a "meaningless" penalty miss against Oxford
    No, I'm saying that if Washington was in our squad right now we would still be crying out for a striker. 

    He doesn't fit the style, he doesn't fit the formation and he doesn't fit as a lone striker. 

    If he fancies turning himself into a winger then sure thing but even then we need to look at the 0 assists he provides. 
    You’re right. That’s not, however, what you initially said at all. 
    "Anyone wanting Washington back and thinking he's the answer clearly didn't watch last season. 

    We need a striker that can score and finish off chances in the box. Washington isn't that. "

    Is what I initially said. 
    "Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless."

    Is what you said though... No?

    And its that comment that I was replying to
    If the only goal Washington scores is in a 4-0 hammering of a team, I wouldn't regard that as of the same importance as a 1-0 winner would. 

    If that's the only game he scores in, it points to him being unable to get into goalscoring opportunities, or finishing them off. 
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