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  • Interestingly I can't get any relegation odds on Wigan on Betfair or Skybet. That was yesterday, today there are no odds for anybody.

    Do you think that's because they're effectively dead and buried or because the bookmaker doesn't want to take bets based on the uncertainty surrounding the application of their points production?



    Last Wednesday Skybet were offering 250/1 for Wigan to be relegated. After a 3-0 win against Blackburn it would have been ‘unique’ to have a punt on them to be relegated, but they would be having the last laugh now. 
  • Interestingly I can't get any relegation odds on Wigan on Betfair or Skybet. That was yesterday, today there are no odds for anybody.

    Do you think that's because they're effectively dead and buried or because the bookmaker doesn't want to take bets based on the uncertainty surrounding the application of their points production?



    There are definitely odds up on betfair, as i can see them now.

    @bobmunro said the other day that bookmakers wouldn't offer odds on Wigan because of the uncertainty around the 12 point deduction, but exchanges will.
    Nothing for me, promotion and top 6 odds but no relegation. They were there yesterday. 


  • I haven't read all the posts on here .. just to say, is the bet laid in the Philippines for Wigan to be relegated common knowledge ? .. I believe that the bet was laid by Wigan's new(ish) owner
    Parry denied this and said the betting thing is just a rumour. He called it "gossip" whilst seemingly forgetting that he was the one filmed talking about it!

    So basically the head of the EFL has been filmed talking to a Wigan fan about something he's now admitted isn't true and is just gossip. 

    Shambles.
    to be fair, i think in the video he even refers to it as gossip 
  • Interestingly I can't get any relegation odds on Wigan on Betfair or Skybet. That was yesterday, today there are no odds for anybody.

    Do you think that's because they're effectively dead and buried or because the bookmaker doesn't want to take bets based on the uncertainty surrounding the application of their points production?



    There are definitely odds up on betfair, as i can see them now.

    @bobmunro said the other day that bookmakers wouldn't offer odds on Wigan because of the uncertainty around the 12 point deduction, but exchanges will.
    Nothing for me, promotion and top 6 odds but no relegation. They were there yesterday. 


    That's the sportsbook, you need to go to the exchange.
  • Interestingly I can't get any relegation odds on Wigan on Betfair or Skybet. That was yesterday, today there are no odds for anybody.

    Do you think that's because they're effectively dead and buried or because the bookmaker doesn't want to take bets based on the uncertainty surrounding the application of their points production?



    There are definitely odds up on betfair, as i can see them now.

    @bobmunro said the other day that bookmakers wouldn't offer odds on Wigan because of the uncertainty around the 12 point deduction, but exchanges will.
    Nothing for me, promotion and top 6 odds but no relegation. They were there yesterday. 


    There is an active market on the Exchange - Wigan between 4/7 and 2/5 - but tiny liquidity.
    Interestingly Wednesday are as low as 13/10 - but again no real money on offer.



  • Interestingly I can't get any relegation odds on Wigan on Betfair or Skybet. That was yesterday, today there are no odds for anybody.

    Do you think that's because they're effectively dead and buried or because the bookmaker doesn't want to take bets based on the uncertainty surrounding the application of their points production?



    There are definitely odds up on betfair, as i can see them now.

    @bobmunro said the other day that bookmakers wouldn't offer odds on Wigan because of the uncertainty around the 12 point deduction, but exchanges will.
    Nothing for me, promotion and top 6 odds but no relegation. They were there yesterday. 


    That's the sportsbook, you need to go to the exchange.

    Ok so no bookmakers themselves are actually offering prices then as I had stated?

  • bobmunro said:

    Interestingly I can't get any relegation odds on Wigan on Betfair or Skybet. That was yesterday, today there are no odds for anybody.

    Do you think that's because they're effectively dead and buried or because the bookmaker doesn't want to take bets based on the uncertainty surrounding the application of their points production?



    There are definitely odds up on betfair, as i can see them now.

    @bobmunro said the other day that bookmakers wouldn't offer odds on Wigan because of the uncertainty around the 12 point deduction, but exchanges will.
    Nothing for me, promotion and top 6 odds but no relegation. They were there yesterday. 


    There is an active market on the Exchange - Wigan between 4/7 and 2/5 - but tiny liquidity.
    Interestingly Wednesday are as low as 13/10 - but again no real money on offer.



    Yes I just had a look at that, thin liquidity indeed.
  • Interestingly I can't get any relegation odds on Wigan on Betfair or Skybet. That was yesterday, today there are no odds for anybody.

    Do you think that's because they're effectively dead and buried or because the bookmaker doesn't want to take bets based on the uncertainty surrounding the application of their points production?



    There are definitely odds up on betfair, as i can see them now.

    @bobmunro said the other day that bookmakers wouldn't offer odds on Wigan because of the uncertainty around the 12 point deduction, but exchanges will.
    Nothing for me, promotion and top 6 odds but no relegation. They were there yesterday. 


    That's the sportsbook, you need to go to the exchange.

    Ok so no bookmakers themselves are actually offering prices then as I had stated?

    Not sure i ever disagreed with you on this.

    My original comment said "bookmakers wouldn't offer odds on Wigan because of the uncertainty around the 12 point deduction, but exchanges will"

    Betfair exchange is.
  • Interestingly I can't get any relegation odds on Wigan on Betfair or Skybet. That was yesterday, today there are no odds for anybody.

    Do you think that's because they're effectively dead and buried or because the bookmaker doesn't want to take bets based on the uncertainty surrounding the application of their points production?



    There are definitely odds up on betfair, as i can see them now.

    @bobmunro said the other day that bookmakers wouldn't offer odds on Wigan because of the uncertainty around the 12 point deduction, but exchanges will.
    Nothing for me, promotion and top 6 odds but no relegation. They were there yesterday. 


    That's the sportsbook, you need to go to the exchange.

    Ok so no bookmakers themselves are actually offering prices then as I had stated?

    Not sure i ever disagreed with you on this.

    My original comment said "bookmakers wouldn't offer odds on Wigan because of the uncertainty around the 12 point deduction, but exchanges will"

    Betfair exchange is.

    I never said you did mate.

     Just when you said I can see odds on betfair now, I had assumed you had referred to sportsbook because I wouldn't refer to betfair exchange as a bookmaker.

  • Millwall v Middlesbrough about to kick off (3pm) will mean markets suspended too I suppose.
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  • I haven't read all the posts on here .. just to say, is the bet laid in the Philippines for Wigan to be relegated common knowledge ? .. I believe that the bet was laid by Wigan's new(ish) owner
    Parry denied this and said the betting thing is just a rumour. He called it "gossip" whilst seemingly forgetting that he was the one filmed talking about it!

    So basically the head of the EFL has been filmed talking to a Wigan fan about something he's now admitted isn't true and is just gossip. 

    Shambles.
    But aren't we talking about something we know is just gossip?
  • J BLOCK said:
    Wigan have appointed a QC in the points appeal, they could get off on the wording. They haven't missed any payments to creditors ... 
    Apart from the players you mean. 
  • 68 min Millwall 0 Boro 1 typical,do not see how Wigan can successfully appeal,if they won their case it would give a green light for any club in trouble to enter adminstration wipe out their debts,shaft their creditors and hey ho off we go,no harm done lads lets have another go.
  • If you bring in administrators doesn’t that mean you are in administration ? They are laying off employees and did not pay players. The rule is there and I cannot see anyway around it 
  • edited July 2020
    Jeff Stelling just said he doesn't think Wigan should get a 12 point deduction and he dont think they will.

    Why they have gone into administration so they should get the punishment as far as I am concerned 
  • Jeff Stelling just said he doesn't think Wigan should get a 12 point deduction and he dont think they will.

    Why they have gone into administration so they should get the punishment as far as I am concerned 
    Jeff will say anything to get him another contract with sky
  • Luckily its got fk all to do with Jeff 
  • If Weds lose tonight and Wigan and Sheff W get 12 points deduction, Weds will be 1 point lower than Wigan
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  • I have a lot of sympathy with Wigan in this situation, but can see a MASSIVE can of worms being opened if they don't get a penalty, and a dangerous precedent
  • Interesting that Wigan's next 3 games are against Barnsley, Hull & us. The way they are going they might just avoid relegation despite the 12 point penalty and our best bet to stay up might be to keep the bottom 2 at arms length and finish above at least 1 of the others.
  • ross1 said:
    If Weds lose tonight and Wigan and Sheff W get 12 points deduction, Weds will be 1 point lower than Wigan
    Now that's what I'm talking about! 
  • edited July 2020

    Wigan Athletic: English football has been disrespected, says EFL chairman Rick Parry


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53341269
  • edited July 2020
    ross1 said:

    Wigan Athletic: English football has been disrespected, says EFL chairman Rick Parry


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53341269
    I hate interviews like that. I wish Dan Roan had said......"but its YOUR test. YOU make the fucking rules. If you think they need beefing up then just DO IT."

    Rick Parry......

    " you have to ask yourself why a Chinese businessman would want to buy a Championship club...."

    Me........" Because you fucking let them you plank"


    Arghhhhh.
    Precisely.

    Wigan's basis for appealing to the EFL is essentially that the EFL are a bunch of incompetent arseholes.

    Perhaps the final announcement might sound something like 'the EFL examined the facts in this case and found that the EFL are a bunch of incompetent arseholes. Appeal upheld.'
  • Incompetent prick!

    Yep that's you Mr Parry, just in case, because you are a bit dim.
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