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Nottingham Forest v Charlton Athletic | Tuesday 11 Feb | Match Preview, Predictions, News & Views
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Garrymanilow said:cantersaddick said:I've been banging the 4231 drum since we lost Gallagher. Now is the game to try it (we did use it to good effect against Fulham). For me Doughty has to play as his pace and directness is something no one else gives us. If we really want to go for it we could put Alfie at LB with McGeady shifting across and Oztumer coming in (am a fan of Ozzy and he ran the game against forest early in the season) but think that would be too much. Will be something like the below. Pretty certain Aneke will be on the bench given he wasnt involved with the U23s yeserday.
Taylor
Doughty McGeady Green
Field Cullen
Purrington Sarr Lockyer Solly
Phillips
Bonne Aneke Oztumer Pratley Pearce Oshilaja Amos
Hemed Smith Davis and Morgan to miss out Williams a full rest
Wouldnt be adverse to a 5 at the back if it was Doughty at LWB and Pratley in the back 3 with Sarr and Lockyer. Cullen Field McGeady in midfield and Taylor Green up top.
Don't get me wrong i would rather we played the diamond and its great when it works as it did early season. But without a Gallagher type player (still hoping Smith can bring his energy and athleticism whilst being good on the ball) it doesn't work and so we need to adapt. 4231 seems to be the best way to get the most out of our squad even if we lose a bit of Lyle drifting wide and dragging defenders out of position.1 -
cantersaddick said:I've been banging the 4231 drum since we lost Gallagher. Now is the game to try it (we did use it to good effect against Fulham). For me Doughty has to play as his pace and directness is something no one else gives us. If we really want to go for it we could put Alfie at LB with McGeady shifting across and Oztumer coming in (am a fan of Ozzy and he ran the game against forest early in the season) but think that would be too much. Will be something like the below. Pretty certain Aneke will be on the bench given he wasnt involved with the U23s yeserday.
Taylor
Doughty McGeady Green
Field Cullen
Purrington Sarr Lockyer Solly
Phillips
Bonne Aneke Oztumer Pratley Pearce Oshilaja Amos
Hemed Smith Davis and Morgan to miss out Williams a full rest
Wouldnt be adverse to a 5 at the back if it was Doughty at LWB and Pratley in the back 3 with Sarr and Lockyer. Cullen Field McGeady in midfield and Taylor Green up top.0 -
Stage is set for McGeady. And this Smith fella has looked good in training too apparently.
If I was Bowyer I'd think 'sod it', and start both of them, and Aneke too. No one would blame him for throwing the dice.0 -
Sillybilly said:cantersaddick said:I've been banging the 4231 drum since we lost Gallagher. Now is the game to try it (we did use it to good effect against Fulham). For me Doughty has to play as his pace and directness is something no one else gives us. If we really want to go for it we could put Alfie at LB with McGeady shifting across and Oztumer coming in (am a fan of Ozzy and he ran the game against forest early in the season) but think that would be too much. Will be something like the below. Pretty certain Aneke will be on the bench given he wasnt involved with the U23s yeserday.
Taylor
Doughty McGeady Green
Field Cullen
Purrington Sarr Lockyer Solly
Phillips
Bonne Aneke Oztumer Pratley Pearce Oshilaja Amos
Hemed Smith Davis and Morgan to miss out Williams a full rest
Wouldnt be adverse to a 5 at the back if it was Doughty at LWB and Pratley in the back 3 with Sarr and Lockyer. Cullen Field McGeady in midfield and Taylor Green up top.1 -
Umbro kit and red so I'll go for Carr0
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Forest tend to play football on the deck.
We usually do better against these teams.0 -
Fighting display but not enough 1- 2 defeat.2
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Not like me, as I am a committed glass half full merchant but I am looking forward to tonight with an unusually glass half empty attitude.
Maybe the high winds will still be blowing and make it something of a leveller.
Much of this feeling is as a result of Saturdays inexplicably poor display.
I will be punching the air if we come away with a point.0 -
1.64 Forest are remortgage the house and lump on , buying money1
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Think we will do well all over the pitch except for our full backs,that is where we will come unstuck ,perhaps there wingers will have an off day then we could get a 1-1 draw0
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GreenieJnrJnr is going, he went to Stoke n came back with the absolute camel. Everyone associated with the club was an absolute c**t according to his post match report.
For that reason I really hope we win.3 -
Doughty has to play tonight; we need some sort of threat on the counter.1
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cantersaddick said:Garrymanilow said:cantersaddick said:I've been banging the 4231 drum since we lost Gallagher. Now is the game to try it (we did use it to good effect against Fulham). For me Doughty has to play as his pace and directness is something no one else gives us. If we really want to go for it we could put Alfie at LB with McGeady shifting across and Oztumer coming in (am a fan of Ozzy and he ran the game against forest early in the season) but think that would be too much. Will be something like the below. Pretty certain Aneke will be on the bench given he wasnt involved with the U23s yeserday.
Taylor
Doughty McGeady Green
Field Cullen
Purrington Sarr Lockyer Solly
Phillips
Bonne Aneke Oztumer Pratley Pearce Oshilaja Amos
Hemed Smith Davis and Morgan to miss out Williams a full rest
Wouldnt be adverse to a 5 at the back if it was Doughty at LWB and Pratley in the back 3 with Sarr and Lockyer. Cullen Field McGeady in midfield and Taylor Green up top.
Don't get me wrong i would rather we played the diamond and its great when it works as it did early season. But without a Gallagher type player (still hoping Smith can bring his energy and athleticism whilst being good on the ball) it doesn't work and so we need to adapt. 4231 seems to be the best way to get the most out of our squad even if we lose a bit of Lyle drifting wide and dragging defenders out of position.
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Sillybilly said:cantersaddick said:I've been banging the 4231 drum since we lost Gallagher. Now is the game to try it (we did use it to good effect against Fulham). For me Doughty has to play as his pace and directness is something no one else gives us. If we really want to go for it we could put Alfie at LB with McGeady shifting across and Oztumer coming in (am a fan of Ozzy and he ran the game against forest early in the season) but think that would be too much. Will be something like the below. Pretty certain Aneke will be on the bench given he wasnt involved with the U23s yeserday.
Taylor
Doughty McGeady Green
Field Cullen
Purrington Sarr Lockyer Solly
Phillips
Bonne Aneke Oztumer Pratley Pearce Oshilaja Amos
Hemed Smith Davis and Morgan to miss out Williams a full rest
Wouldnt be adverse to a 5 at the back if it was Doughty at LWB and Pratley in the back 3 with Sarr and Lockyer. Cullen Field McGeady in midfield and Taylor Green up top.
We've often been outnumbered and open in midfield - an extra man there to close down Forest possession and deny them space and time on the ball may well help.
It's also a line up of players with good passing and ball retention skills - and hopefully that would mean the ball would stick better upfield, not coming straight back to keep our backline under pressure and too deep.
The pace and penetration wide could give us a bit of thrust on the counter.
Agree with resting Pearce, hoping that means we would play with a higher defensive line, bringing in Nabster for his mobility and ability to pick a pass (attack those headers Naby!) ........ and definitely keep Matthews at RB, rather than a perhaps rusty Solly who hasn't played for 6 weeks.
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Pavoren007 said:A 1-3 reverse, looking over our shoulder,
shadows looming BUT one or two real six pointers to come this month will ease our nerves a bit...0 -
Good preview, @sage.
I hope we see that more attacking lineup. If an opponent sees Taylor, Green, McGready and Oztumer/Williams facing them, it gives them something to think about. Too many defensive players against Stoke. Played into their hands.
Wouldn't be surprised if Solly played though.1 -
Sarr has to start over Pearce if we're to get anything4
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Sillybilly said:cantersaddick said:I've been banging the 4231 drum since we lost Gallagher. Now is the game to try it (we did use it to good effect against Fulham). For me Doughty has to play as his pace and directness is something no one else gives us. If we really want to go for it we could put Alfie at LB with McGeady shifting across and Oztumer coming in (am a fan of Ozzy and he ran the game against forest early in the season) but think that would be too much. Will be something like the below. Pretty certain Aneke will be on the bench given he wasnt involved with the U23s yeserday.
Taylor
Doughty McGeady Green
Field Cullen
Purrington Sarr Lockyer Solly
Phillips
Bonne Aneke Oztumer Pratley Pearce Oshilaja Amos
Hemed Smith Davis and Morgan to miss out Williams a full rest
Wouldnt be adverse to a 5 at the back if it was Doughty at LWB and Pratley in the back 3 with Sarr and Lockyer. Cullen Field McGeady in midfield and Taylor Green up top.
Reckon Matthew's will be saved for Saturday.0 -
Oggy Red said:Sillybilly said:cantersaddick said:I've been banging the 4231 drum since we lost Gallagher. Now is the game to try it (we did use it to good effect against Fulham). For me Doughty has to play as his pace and directness is something no one else gives us. If we really want to go for it we could put Alfie at LB with McGeady shifting across and Oztumer coming in (am a fan of Ozzy and he ran the game against forest early in the season) but think that would be too much. Will be something like the below. Pretty certain Aneke will be on the bench given he wasnt involved with the U23s yeserday.
Taylor
Doughty McGeady Green
Field Cullen
Purrington Sarr Lockyer Solly
Phillips
Bonne Aneke Oztumer Pratley Pearce Oshilaja Amos
Hemed Smith Davis and Morgan to miss out Williams a full rest
Wouldnt be adverse to a 5 at the back if it was Doughty at LWB and Pratley in the back 3 with Sarr and Lockyer. Cullen Field McGeady in midfield and Taylor Green up top.
We've often been outnumbered and open in midfield - an extra man there to close down Forest possession and deny them space and time on the ball may well help.
It's also a line up of players with good passing and ball retention skills - and hopefully that would mean the ball would stick better upfield, not coming straight back to keep our backline under pressure and too deep.
The pace and penetration wide could give us a bit of thrust on the counter.
Agree with resting Pearce, hoping that means we would play with a higher defensive line, bringing in Nabster for his mobility and ability to pick a pass (attack those headers Naby!) ........ and definitely keep Matthews at RB, rather than a perhaps rusty Solly who hasn't played for 6 weeks.1 - Sponsored links:
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Rumour on the fb page that Williams won’t feature tonight - be interesting to see0
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In Bowyer's current mood I doubt we will be trying to attack.
I expect three defensive midfielders, probably Davis, Cullen, Field, with Oztumer unsuccessfully trying to carry the ball to the isolated front 2. Forest will carve us apart,first slowly, then quickly.0 -
I really hope Bowyer can pull a rabbit from the hat somehow and get us a point.
Not holding my breath though. The team that played that wonderful first half against Forest at The Valley seems to have faded away.0 -
I would prefer Ozzie over Jonny tonight
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Seriously cold wind, gonna be freezing here tonight!0
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palarsehater said:Rumour on the fb page that Williams won’t feature tonight - be interesting to see
Got to remember it was Wales who started him in both their Euro Qualifiers that then saw him break down in his first game back for us (Derby)
Really isnt worth the risk, especially now we can rotate him even more sensibly with Oztumer and McGeady3 -
Got a sneaky feeling there’ll be a surprise tonight. Don’t know what it’ll be but hopefully it’s in the result and not just the starting line up.2
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i know you should never expect your team to lose but i think blackburn and luton are more winnable games - now i am not saying pick a team and get hammered - but i wouldnt blame bowyer for saving stronger players for saturday.0