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Cricket .. England in South Africa & Sri Lanka 2019/2020

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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    edited January 2020
    Chizz said:
    Pope has played brilliantly, almost throughout the innings.  What a great pleasure to see someone scoring what will surely be one of many, many hundreds.  

    He should be inked in for the number six spot for a very long time.  He may, eventually, be pushed up the order, but I hope the urge to experiment in that way is resisted.  If England want to be the best in the world, they need to have the best player in the world in as many positions as possible.  Stokes, Pope, Broad and Anderson could become the best numbers five, six,, ten and eleven in the world in the world.  We need to fill a few more spots, but Pope should be the fourth piece in the jigsaw. 

    Very, very impressed. 
    Agree on Pope, leave him at 6 for at least 18 months before considering whether to move him. The temptation will be if Stokes is out and we go with Woakes and Curran at 7/8. With the keeper likely to bat at 6 you would imagine Pope will then play at 5. 

    Don’t think Anderson is going to be the best 11 in the world for much longer unfortunately. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    Pope shouldn't be reversing Rabada for consecutive fours and just watching the ball fly for four. 

    He should be reversing Rabada for consecutive fours, running down the pitch and screaming as loud as possible in Rabada's face.  And then watching the ball fly for four. 
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,907
    Bit of a farce there with the wood mid-wicket. Then declaration no ball not declaration 
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,907
    What a shot that was from Wood
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,907
    Chizz said:
    Pope has played brilliantly, almost throughout the innings.  What a great pleasure to see someone scoring what will surely be one of many, many hundreds.  

    He should be inked in for the number six spot for a very long time.  He may, eventually, be pushed up the order, but I hope the urge to experiment in that way is resisted.  If England want to be the best in the world, they need to have the best player in the world in as many positions as possible.  Stokes, Pope, Broad and Anderson could become the best numbers five, six,, ten and eleven in the world in the world.  We need to fill a few more spots, but Pope should be the fourth piece in the jigsaw. 

    Very, very impressed. 
    Agree on Pope, leave him at 6 for at least 18 months before considering whether to move him. The temptation will be if Stokes is out and we go with Woakes and Curran at 7/8. With the keeper likely to bat at 6 you would imagine Pope will then play at 5. 

    Don’t think Anderson is going to be the best 11 in the world for much longer unfortunately. 
    I agree- leave Pope at 6 for at least 18 months. Dont even consider it for a while. Let him settle. I'm not actually sure he is suited to 3. But that's a question for another time.
  • 499 / 9 declared. Let's pick up a few tonight. The South Africans can't be too happy with this position, although if Wood can score that easily, you do wonder....
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    facially, Olly Pope is a dead ringer for Conor Gallagher .. and they are both ginger terriers ((:>)
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    Chizz said:
    Pope has played brilliantly, almost throughout the innings.  What a great pleasure to see someone scoring what will surely be one of many, many hundreds.  

    He should be inked in for the number six spot for a very long time.  He may, eventually, be pushed up the order, but I hope the urge to experiment in that way is resisted.  If England want to be the best in the world, they need to have the best player in the world in as many positions as possible.  Stokes, Pope, Broad and Anderson could become the best numbers five, six,, ten and eleven in the world in the world.  We need to fill a few more spots, but Pope should be the fourth piece in the jigsaw. 

    Very, very impressed. 
    Agree on Pope, leave him at 6 for at least 18 months before considering whether to move him. The temptation will be if Stokes is out and we go with Woakes and Curran at 7/8. With the keeper likely to bat at 6 you would imagine Pope will then play at 5. 

    Don’t think Anderson is going to be the best 11 in the world for much longer unfortunately. 
    I agree- leave Pope at 6 for at least 18 months. Dont even consider it for a while. Let him settle. I'm not actually sure he is suited to 3. But that's a question for another time.
    agreed he's too much of a 'dasher' for a 3
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,667
    Chizz said:
    Chizz said:
    Pope has played brilliantly, almost throughout the innings.  What a great pleasure to see someone scoring what will surely be one of many, many hundreds.  

    He should be inked in for the number six spot for a very long time.  He may, eventually, be pushed up the order, but I hope the urge to experiment in that way is resisted.  If England want to be the best in the world, they need to have the best player in the world in as many positions as possible.  Stokes, Pope, Broad and Anderson could become the best numbers five, six,, ten and eleven in the world in the world.  We need to fill a few more spots, but Pope should be the fourth piece in the jigsaw. 

    Very, very impressed. 
    I agree, but broad and Anderson aren’t getting any younger. I think archer and Curran could replace their roles, with archer being the strike bowler. 

    I think jury’s still out on sibley and Crawley, burns when he’s fit should get back in the team. 
    Sam Curran is no Stuart Broad. 
    Agree.
    Broad is a strike bowler and Curren is an all rounder. 
    Having said that Curren has just been given the new ball.
  • 499 / 9 declared. Let's pick up a few tonight. The South Africans can't be too happy with this position, although if Wood can score that easily, you do wonder....
    Strange score to declare on, a shame to not get the 500 as it's such a rarity and it's not as if we're on the 4th/5th day.
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    facially, Olly Pope is a dead ringer for Conor Gallagher .. and they are both ginger terriers ((:>)

    Conor Gallagher? Ginger? You sure about that..?
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    499 / 9 declared. Let's pick up a few tonight. The South Africans can't be too happy with this position, although if Wood can score that easily, you do wonder....
    Strange score to declare on, a shame to not get the 500 as it's such a rarity and it's not as if we're on the 4th/5th day.
    I’m guessing broad couldn’t be arsed to put his pads on. 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    facially, Olly Pope is a dead ringer for Conor Gallagher .. and they are both ginger terriers ((:>)

    Conor Gallagher? Ginger? You sure about that..?
    ish
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    Nortje comes in as night watchman. Sky looks v ominous. 


  • And, that's probably it for the day, but 2 wickets is a good start.
  • And, that's probably it for the day, but 2 wickets is a good start.
    2 down, and 439 runs ahead, a great position for England. A big day for Bess tomorrow
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    edited January 2020
    nice chat with Boucher (SA coach) at close of play .. said nice things about England and defended his own players very nicely .. defended Rabada but admitted he goes a bit OTT at times
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,671
    No problem with what Rabada did at all, adds spice to the game. People are so easily offended....
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Shouldn’t have celebrated like that, only did it to get a reaction, which he didn’t get. I don’t mind big celebrations and passionate ones, but not in the batsman’s face like that or to get a reaction. I mean rabada admitted he did it, and it’s the accumulation of multiple offences that see him banned. Just a load of old ex players getting grumpy.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    Point is he wasn't banned for that single incident. It was an acculamation over a 24 month period. Yes it'll be a shame not to see him in the next Test but he only has himself to blame for repeated incidents.
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    Buttler got a demerit point for his actions recently, if he does it three more times he'll get a one Test ban. Just like Rabada.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,667
    I like Rabada and I like to see passion in sport. 
    But when you have 3 demerit points to your name to do what he done makes me think he's a bit thick.
  • AshBurton
    AshBurton Posts: 1,142
    Leuth said:
    Bravo Ash - a very lucid, sensible and informative write-up! And I'm not just playing curate to your 3rd XI captain...
    Thank you kindly, young sir, and please take the next over from the bottom end.

    Here’s my view of Day 2: https://www.burtonsblog.com/post/curates-are-yesterday-s-news-as-a-pope-comes-of-age
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,474
    No problem with what Rabada did at all, adds spice to the game. People are so easily offended....
    How classy  :/.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    Five wickets down, all five to Dom Bess. 109-5
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    edited January 2020
    five fer for Bess. 

    Can feel little drops of rain. Floodlights coming on. Only got 20 mins before we need to leave. Please don’t go off before we get Kock out!!!!
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    And that’s that. Time to go home. Hopefully England can do it without us from now! 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    For the first time in 45 years an English spinner takes the first 5 wickets of an innings: of course it's a Player from KENT.

    Deadly Derek Underwood.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,760
    I just switched over from the Test to watch the Under 19 World Cup and have seen one of the unluckiest dismissal of all time.

    The Aussie bat has absolutely crunched the ball back and it has hit the West Indian fast bowler's trailing foot mid air on the follow through and deflected straight onto the stumps with the non striker miles out of his ground.

    The commentators have said that this is the second such dismissal in the innings and has been followed by a gloved catch down the leg side. You really have to feel sorry for the Aussies - not!
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,907
    499 / 9 declared. Let's pick up a few tonight. The South Africans can't be too happy with this position, although if Wood can score that easily, you do wonder....
    Strange score to declare on, a shame to not get the 500 as it's such a rarity and it's not as if we're on the 4th/5th day.
    Not really. Whilst it would be nice to get one more run in reality it matters not one bit. 

    It was clear that we were going to declare at the fall of the next wicket. Root had actually declared when wood was given out of a no ball 15 runs previously. 

    Time is so important in this game given the pitch and the weather why easy time sending out broad who is likely to only last a ball or 2.