When was the last time we signed an experienced player from the 1st team of a club in the same divison as us, for a fee?
There are probably loads I have forgotten but I can only think of a couple in Powell's team Wiggins and BWP. Before that it may have been Eddie Youds!
Even in the premier league we mainly bought players from the football league, abroad or players unwanted by bigger clubs. I don't expect that to change any time soon.
Chris Powell from Derby for £825k in 1998
Carl Tiler from Everton for £750k in 1998.
Eddie Youds from Bradford for £500k in 1998. Can't find exact details on his transfer date or fee so may have been from a division below or above. Did we sign him before or after promotion?
Neal Redfearn from Barnsley (just relegated as we were promoted) for £1m in 1998.
Graham Stuart from Sheffield United for £1m in 1999. Not sure on the fee here.
Andy Todd from Bolton for £750k in 1999.
Claus Jensen for£4m from Bolton in 2000. We had just been promoted from First Division to Premier Division, they finished 6th and were not promoted.
Luke Young from Spurs for £4m in 2001.
Chris Perry from Spurs for £100k in 2003 - great deal that.
Jerome Thomas from Arsenal for £100k in 2004.
Franny Jeffers from Arsenal for £2.6M* in 2004. Total for all add-ons, but targets not met.
Danny Murphy from Liverpool for £2.5M in 2004.
Darren Ambrose from Newcastle for £1.5m in 2005.
Marcus Bent from Everton for £2.3m in 2006.
Andy Reid from Spurs for £3m in 2006.
Amdy Faye from Newcastle for ~£2M in 2006 - can't find a solid number on this one.
Djimi Traoré from Liverpool for £2m in 2006.
Ben Thatcher from Manchester City for between £500k and £750k.
Paddy McCarthy from Leicester for £650k in 2007.
Andy Gray from Burnley for £1.5m in 2008.
Paul Benson from Dagenham and Redbridge for £250k 2010.
Pawel Abbott from Oldham Athletic for £20k in 2010.
Dale Stephens from Oldham Athetic for £350k in 2011.
David Button from Spurs (division above) for £500k in 2012.
El Hadji Ba from Sunderland (division above) for an undisclosed fee, likely around £400k in 2015.
Youds, a Scouser came from Bradford, we had beaten them 4-1 or 4-0 a few weeks previous when they were managed by Kris Kamara.. Youds was also at Ipswich, he started at the Toffees ..around the same time as Youds, Mills and Bowen also signed on making a whole new defence alongside Rufus .. they were at the very core of our success that year
No mate, Youds played for Bradford when they beat us 1-0 at Valley Parade a few weeks before coming to us.
we beat them at the Valley very early on that season .. as to them doing us at theirs, I don't know
When was the last time we signed an experienced player from the 1st team of a club in the same divison as us, for a fee?
There are probably loads I have forgotten but I can only think of a couple in Powell's team Wiggins and BWP. Before that it may have been Eddie Youds!
Even in the premier league we mainly bought players from the football league, abroad or players unwanted by bigger clubs. I don't expect that to change any time soon.
Chris Powell from Derby for £825k in 1998
Carl Tiler from Everton for £750k in 1998.
Eddie Youds from Bradford for £500k in 1998. Can't find exact details on his transfer date or fee so may have been from a division below or above. Did we sign him before or after promotion?
Neal Redfearn from Barnsley (just relegated as we were promoted) for £1m in 1998.
Graham Stuart from Sheffield United for £1m in 1999. Not sure on the fee here.
Andy Todd from Bolton for £750k in 1999.
Claus Jensen for£4m from Bolton in 2000. We had just been promoted from First Division to Premier Division, they finished 6th and were not promoted.
Luke Young from Spurs for £4m in 2001.
Chris Perry from Spurs for £100k in 2003 - great deal that.
Jerome Thomas from Arsenal for £100k in 2004.
Franny Jeffers from Arsenal for £2.6M* in 2004. Total for all add-ons, but targets not met.
Danny Murphy from Liverpool for £2.5M in 2004.
Darren Ambrose from Newcastle for £1.5m in 2005.
Marcus Bent from Everton for £2.3m in 2006.
Andy Reid from Spurs for £3m in 2006.
Amdy Faye from Newcastle for ~£2M in 2006 - can't find a solid number on this one.
Djimi Traoré from Liverpool for £2m in 2006.
Ben Thatcher from Manchester City for between £500k and £750k.
Paddy McCarthy from Leicester for £650k in 2007.
Andy Gray from Burnley for £1.5m in 2008.
Paul Benson from Dagenham and Redbridge for £250k 2010.
Pawel Abbott from Oldham Athletic for £20k in 2010.
Dale Stephens from Oldham Athetic for £350k in 2011.
David Button from Spurs (division above) for £500k in 2012.
El Hadji Ba from Sunderland (division above) for an undisclosed fee, likely around £400k in 2015.
When was the last time we signed an experienced player from the 1st team of a club in the same divison as us, for a fee?
There are probably loads I have forgotten but I can only think of a couple in Powell's team Wiggins and BWP. Before that it may have been Eddie Youds!
Even in the premier league we mainly bought players from the football league, abroad or players unwanted by bigger clubs. I don't expect that to change any time soon.
Chris Powell from Derby for £825k in 1998
Carl Tiler from Everton for £750k in 1998.
Eddie Youds from Bradford for £500k in 1998. Can't find exact details on his transfer date or fee so may have been from a division below or above. Did we sign him before or after promotion?
Neal Redfearn from Barnsley (just relegated as we were promoted) for £1m in 1998.
Graham Stuart from Sheffield United for £1m in 1999. Not sure on the fee here.
Andy Todd from Bolton for £750k in 1999.
Claus Jensen for£4m from Bolton in 2000. We had just been promoted from First Division to Premier Division, they finished 6th and were not promoted.
Luke Young from Spurs for £4m in 2001.
Chris Perry from Spurs for £100k in 2003 - great deal that.
Jerome Thomas from Arsenal for £100k in 2004.
Franny Jeffers from Arsenal for £2.6M* in 2004. Total for all add-ons, but targets not met.
Danny Murphy from Liverpool for £2.5M in 2004.
Darren Ambrose from Newcastle for £1.5m in 2005.
Marcus Bent from Everton for £2.3m in 2006.
Andy Reid from Spurs for £3m in 2006.
Amdy Faye from Newcastle for ~£2M in 2006 - can't find a solid number on this one.
Djimi Traoré from Liverpool for £2m in 2006.
Ben Thatcher from Manchester City for between £500k and £750k.
Paddy McCarthy from Leicester for £650k in 2007.
Andy Gray from Burnley for £1.5m in 2008.
Paul Benson from Dagenham and Redbridge for £250k 2010.
Pawel Abbott from Oldham Athletic for £20k in 2010.
Dale Stephens from Oldham Athetic for £350k in 2011.
David Button from Spurs (division above) for £500k in 2012.
El Hadji Ba from Sunderland (division above) for an undisclosed fee, likely around £400k in 2015.
When was the last time we signed an experienced player from the 1st team of a club in the same divison as us, for a fee?
There are probably loads I have forgotten but I can only think of a couple in Powell's team Wiggins and BWP. Before that it may have been Eddie Youds!
Even in the premier league we mainly bought players from the football league, abroad or players unwanted by bigger clubs. I don't expect that to change any time soon.
Chris Powell from Derby for £825k in 1998
Carl Tiler from Everton for £750k in 1998.
Eddie Youds from Bradford for £500k in 1998. Can't find exact details on his transfer date or fee so may have been from a division below or above. Did we sign him before or after promotion?
Neal Redfearn from Barnsley (just relegated as we were promoted) for £1m in 1998.
Graham Stuart from Sheffield United for £1m in 1999. Not sure on the fee here.
Andy Todd from Bolton for £750k in 1999.
Claus Jensen for£4m from Bolton in 2000. We had just been promoted from First Division to Premier Division, they finished 6th and were not promoted.
Luke Young from Spurs for £4m in 2001.
Chris Perry from Spurs for £100k in 2003 - great deal that.
Jerome Thomas from Arsenal for £100k in 2004.
Franny Jeffers from Arsenal for £2.6M* in 2004. Total for all add-ons, but targets not met.
Danny Murphy from Liverpool for £2.5M in 2004.
Darren Ambrose from Newcastle for £1.5m in 2005.
Marcus Bent from Everton for £2.3m in 2006.
Andy Reid from Spurs for £3m in 2006.
Amdy Faye from Newcastle for ~£2M in 2006 - can't find a solid number on this one.
Djimi Traoré from Liverpool for £2m in 2006.
Ben Thatcher from Manchester City for between £500k and £750k.
Paddy McCarthy from Leicester for £650k in 2007.
Andy Gray from Burnley for £1.5m in 2008.
Paul Benson from Dagenham and Redbridge for £250k 2010.
Pawel Abbott from Oldham Athletic for £20k in 2010.
Dale Stephens from Oldham Athetic for £350k in 2011.
David Button from Spurs (division above) for £500k in 2012.
El Hadji Ba from Sunderland (division above) for an undisclosed fee, likely around £400k in 2015.
When was the last time we signed an experienced player from the 1st team of a club in the same divison as us, for a fee?
There are probably loads I have forgotten but I can only think of a couple in Powell's team Wiggins and BWP. Before that it may have been Eddie Youds!
Even in the premier league we mainly bought players from the football league, abroad or players unwanted by bigger clubs. I don't expect that to change any time soon.
Chris Powell from Derby for £825k in 1998
Carl Tiler from Everton for £750k in 1998.
Eddie Youds from Bradford for £500k in 1998. Can't find exact details on his transfer date or fee so may have been from a division below or above. Did we sign him before or after promotion?
Neal Redfearn from Barnsley (just relegated as we were promoted) for £1m in 1998.
Graham Stuart from Sheffield United for £1m in 1999. Not sure on the fee here.
Andy Todd from Bolton for £750k in 1999.
Claus Jensen for£4m from Bolton in 2000. We had just been promoted from First Division to Premier Division, they finished 6th and were not promoted.
Luke Young from Spurs for £4m in 2001.
Chris Perry from Spurs for £100k in 2003 - great deal that.
Jerome Thomas from Arsenal for £100k in 2004.
Franny Jeffers from Arsenal for £2.6M* in 2004. Total for all add-ons, but targets not met.
Danny Murphy from Liverpool for £2.5M in 2004.
Darren Ambrose from Newcastle for £1.5m in 2005.
Marcus Bent from Everton for £2.3m in 2006.
Andy Reid from Spurs for £3m in 2006.
Amdy Faye from Newcastle for ~£2M in 2006 - can't find a solid number on this one.
Djimi Traoré from Liverpool for £2m in 2006.
Ben Thatcher from Manchester City for between £500k and £750k.
Paddy McCarthy from Leicester for £650k in 2007.
Andy Gray from Burnley for £1.5m in 2008.
Paul Benson from Dagenham and Redbridge for £250k 2010.
Pawel Abbott from Oldham Athletic for £20k in 2010.
Dale Stephens from Oldham Athetic for £350k in 2011.
David Button from Spurs (division above) for £500k in 2012.
El Hadji Ba from Sunderland (division above) for an undisclosed fee, likely around £400k in 2015.
When was the last time we signed an experienced player from the 1st team of a club in the same divison as us, for a fee?
There are probably loads I have forgotten but I can only think of a couple in Powell's team Wiggins and BWP. Before that it may have been Eddie Youds!
Even in the premier league we mainly bought players from the football league, abroad or players unwanted by bigger clubs. I don't expect that to change any time soon.
Chris Powell from Derby for £825k in 1998
Carl Tiler from Everton for £750k in 1998.
Eddie Youds from Bradford for £500k in 1998. Can't find exact details on his transfer date or fee so may have been from a division below or above. Did we sign him before or after promotion?
Neal Redfearn from Barnsley (just relegated as we were promoted) for £1m in 1998.
Graham Stuart from Sheffield United for £1m in 1999. Not sure on the fee here.
Andy Todd from Bolton for £750k in 1999.
Claus Jensen for£4m from Bolton in 2000. We had just been promoted from First Division to Premier Division, they finished 6th and were not promoted.
Luke Young from Spurs for £4m in 2001.
Chris Perry from Spurs for £100k in 2003 - great deal that.
Jerome Thomas from Arsenal for £100k in 2004.
Franny Jeffers from Arsenal for £2.6M* in 2004. Total for all add-ons, but targets not met.
Danny Murphy from Liverpool for £2.5M in 2004.
Darren Ambrose from Newcastle for £1.5m in 2005.
Marcus Bent from Everton for £2.3m in 2006.
Andy Reid from Spurs for £3m in 2006.
Amdy Faye from Newcastle for ~£2M in 2006 - can't find a solid number on this one.
Djimi Traoré from Liverpool for £2m in 2006.
Ben Thatcher from Manchester City for between £500k and £750k.
Paddy McCarthy from Leicester for £650k in 2007.
Andy Gray from Burnley for £1.5m in 2008.
Paul Benson from Dagenham and Redbridge for £250k 2010.
Pawel Abbott from Oldham Athletic for £20k in 2010.
Dale Stephens from Oldham Athetic for £350k in 2011.
David Button from Spurs (division above) for £500k in 2012.
El Hadji Ba from Sunderland (division above) for an undisclosed fee, likely around £400k in 2015.
That press conference was hugely positive. A few hints that we’re after quality players. The bit when Bowyer said he met a player last night after MS got on the phone and made it happen...Peterborough player?
When was the last time we signed an experienced player from the 1st team of a club in the same divison as us, for a fee?
There are probably loads I have forgotten but I can only think of a couple in Powell's team Wiggins and BWP. Before that it may have been Eddie Youds!
Even in the premier league we mainly bought players from the football league, abroad or players unwanted by bigger clubs. I don't expect that to change any time soon.
Chris Powell from Derby for £825k in 1998
Wasn't in the team because of the formation Jim Smith was playing.
Carl Tiler from Everton for £750k in 1998.
Wasn't in their first tea
Eddie Youds from Bradford for £500k in 1998. Can't find exact details on his transfer date or fee so may have been from a division below or above. Did we sign him before or after promotion?
We signed him in the same divison. I already said him.
Neal Redfearn from Bradford (just relegated as we were promoted) for £1m in 1998.
We signed him from Barnsley, sold him to Bradford, we crossed over.
Graham Stuart from Sheffield United for £1.5m in 1999. Not sure on the fee here.
We were in the prem, they weren't.
Andy Todd from Bolton for £1.3m in 1999. Not sure on the fee here.
Wasn't playing for Bolton because he clumped Phil Brown.
Claus Jensen for£4m from Bolton in 2000. We had just been promoted from First Division to Premier Division, they finished 6th and were not promoted.
So not in the same divison.
Luke Young from Spurs for £4m in 2001.
Wasn't playing, was behind Stephen Carr.
Chris Perry from Spurs for £100k in 2003 - great deal that.
Wasn't playing for Spurs. Best £ for £ deal ever.
Jerome Thomas from Arsenal for £100k in 2004.
Hardly a first team player.
Franny Jeffers from Arsenal for £2.6M in 2004.
See above
Danny Murphy from Liverpool for £2.5M in 2004.
See above
Darren Ambrose from Newcastle for £1.5m in 2005.
See above
Marcus Bent from Everton for £2.3m in 2006.
Maybe
Andy Reid from Spurs for £3m in 2006.
Again wasn't playing
Amdy Faye from Newcastle for ~£2M in 2006 - can't find a solid number on this one.
Actually did play quite a lot so that's a maybe.
Djimi Traoré from Liverpool for £2m in 2006.
Yup
Ben Thatcher from Manchester City for between £500k and £750k.
Yeap
Paddy McCarthy from Leicester for £650k in 2007.
Were we in the same divison, I honestly can't remember.
Andy Gray from Burnley for £1.5m in 2008.
See above.
Paul Benson from Dagenham and Redbridge for an undisclosed fee, likely around £200k in 2010, lik.
Pawel Abbott from Oldham Athletic for £20k in 2010.
Dale Stephens from Oldham Athetic for £350k in 2011.
If we were in the same divison fair enough.
David Button from Spurs (division above) for £500k in 2012.
El Hadji Ba from Sunderland (division above) for anundisclosed fee, likely around £400k in 2015.
That's really wasn't the question was it.
Nicky Ajose from Swindon for £800k in 2016. Yup
So 26 players in about 30 years, at least half don't answer the question. My point being we don't often do it and doing it is a massive statement of intent.
Oh I forgot about Keith Jones.
You said first team, not first 11. Theres a difference, and your responses are arbitrary. Its also only going back to 1998, 22 (really 21.5) years, not 30.
The only one of the players I named who couldn't be considered first team was Thomas who was basically an U23 or equivalent at the time.
Anyway this was every player we signed from the same division (or higher) for a fee since we were first promoted to the Premier League in 1998.
It isn't, it doesn't include Pearce, JFC, Page, Fosu, Clarke (who actually is an answer to the question). If your including Redfern you could also include Purrington.
Anyway it's all by the by. My point was we have hardly ever signed "a first team regular" for a fee, from a team in the same divison. If we signed one in this window it would be a massive statement of intent, regardless of fee paid.
today's press states that the Blades 'will not stand in the way' of Kean Bryan joining CAFC .. no mention of loan or permanent
central defender ? .. he's 6'1" .. too small in the middle for my liking and only ever played in the lower divisions
How tall was Chris Perry? A lot of tall players can’t jump, Naby Sarr for example.
every time height is mentioned it's 'what about Chris Perry' .. he left us about 14 years ago, things have moved on .. do you watch much football ?.. have you seen the size/height of most contemporary central defenders ? .. there is room for 1 'small' one so long as he is alongside 1 'big' 1
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997–98_Charlton_Athletic_F.C._season
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/danny-mills/transfers/spieler/3743/transfer_id/51478
The bit when Bowyer said he met a player last night after MS got on the phone and made it happen...Peterborough player?
All in all though, sounds exciting.
He then said maybe one more on loan
Anyway it's all by the by. My point was we have hardly ever signed "a first team regular" for a fee, from a team in the same divison. If we signed one in this window it would be a massive statement of intent, regardless of fee paid.