Can your budget structure really stay sustainable if you’re in threat of relegation and desperately need bodies in though? We need deals to be done and urgently.
So the undertaking Cowley gave Lincoln when he took the manager's job at Huddersfield not to poach any of their players for the rest of this season was just hot air then 😏.
Sounds to me that Maddison just doesn't want to move to us.
I tend to agree with this. Sounds like he's after a bigger paycheck which we won't give him. There's more to contracts than just the pay, it's possible that he's demanding too much and we have a large wage reduction upon relegation clause which is making him jittery based on our league position. January always has inflated prices and our league position makes it even harder because no players are going to want to move to us if they think there's a chance of being in league 1 next year unless they're getting significant renumeration, which we aren't offering.
I'm praying we get Bowyer and a decent, fit midfielder in before Preston!
Bowyer had a low budget under Douchebag but managed to get deals done. Seeing as the urgency to own us was around having a transfer window to cement our place in the division, you have to think the budget is significantly higher than the summer one! It is just we are not seeing any hard evidence of it yet and that includes getting Bowyer signed up himself beyond his current deal!
The Bowyer deal is the thing I think concerns (for want of a better term) me slightly at this stage. I’m still fully confident it will get done, as I don’t believe Bowyer would’ve put out a statement saying it just requires a few tweaks for it to all fall down.
Re: transfers, as others have said, I can’t see themselves committing £50m or whatever it is, just to see us in League One. MS has come out and said that he recognised the squad needs reinforcements, because relegation would be very bad.
I think they know there is a sense of urgency, but based on what they offered Taylor, I think that’s our ceiling. Maybe Maddison wanted more, who knows. I get the short term argument of paying a bit more now, but it’s not just going to be about now. If they give into Maddison’s demands, then there is a longer term knock on effect
We need players in for the next two games yes, but we need to do it a sustainable manner as MS has pointed out.
We wanted Roland out and new owners in. We’ve got new owners who are only 2 weeks into their ownership and already there is discord (not you personally Muttley), about what they’re willing to pay and the time it’s taking deals to be done . I can’t get my head around it. We’re like that kid in the toy store throwing a strop because their parents won’t buy them the most expensive toys
I can't really get my head round footballers wanting to stay in a certain location when you're in the Championship & above. They're earning serious wedge and could afford to fly home plenty of times a month if they wanted to...
How many Championship clubs are sustainable , football is a financial fuck up, you have to speculate to accumulate (if you're lucky) , all this model waffle is dreamland .
Fans want cheap football but want us to pay up for the players , madness put the prices up double everyones season ticket and see how keen the fans really are for you to pay up , lose lose lose whatever way you turn in this game .
I think my concern stems from the fact that I feel our position demands we go into our next two games and six points (over the next six days) with more than a midfield of an overplayed Pratley (I think he deserves a medal btw), Vennings and Morgan. And well as he did on Saturday, only Davison up front. Ok we have a few coming back but they have to be eased back for fear of losing them later!
If you think we can write those points off and wait for Barnsley then you are probably going to feel better about things than me. But I honestly feel these two games coming up are vitally important and I would have expected us to be better prepared for them in terms of personnel given we are on day 16 of the transfer window.
Sounds to me that Maddison just doesn't want to move to us.
Spoke to a Posh mate, he seems to think Maddison is using as leverage. He is very confident he wants to go to Hull, but will only happen if Jarrod Bowen moves.
Sky reporting that Toffolo is off to Huddersfield... Wouldnt surprise me in the slightest seeing he'd be working with his old Manager
HUDDERSFIELD GETTING CLOSER ON TOFFOLO
Huddersfield are closing in on a deal to reunite Harry Toffolo with his former Lincoln boss Danny Cowley.
The Terriers are in advanced talks with the Imps to sign the left-back and there is understood to be an agreement on the fee.
Toffolo, 24, set to join pending the results of a medical and an agreement over personal terms.
Were we even in for him? I didn't see anywhere link him to us and I had a look at Lincoln's forum and they were none the wiser either. From what I read on there he gets MotM every week and is fully capable of playing at this level and maybe beyond, so could be a gem for a championship side. Cowley link is there so that's probably that
How many Championship clubs are sustainable , football is a financial fuck up, you have to speculate to accumulate (if you're lucky) , all this model waffle is dreamland .
Fans want cheap football but want us to pay up for the players , madness put the prices up double everyones season ticket and see how keen the fans really are for you to pay up , lose lose lose whatever way you turn in this game .
That might be true but I wouldn't be that happy if we did something like what Derby have done and spend millions every year only to stay in this league anyway
So if Maddison is not one of the "Deals Pending" tweeted by Southall, then who is?
Have to be honest, the idea of a CM who was a target for us not to agree on an extra 1K a week in the position as is in, is bizarre.
I'm not a doom and gloomer but, we seriously need to pull our finger out and get some bodies in. Refusing to stump up an extra 52K pa or negotiating that, is not going to keep us up.
We can not keep saying after the next game we will get bodies in, we need liven up now.
I can't really get my head round footballers wanting to stay in a certain location when you're in the Championship & above. They're earning serious wedge and could afford to fly home plenty of times a month if they wanted to...
I've got friends who earn very good money and choose to live in Medway. People eh?
Sounds to me that Maddison just doesn't want to move to us.
Spoke to a Posh mate, he seems to think Maddison is using as leverage. He is very confident he wants to go to Hull, but will only happen if Jarrod Bowen moves.
A player who is very keen on going to Hull is almost *exactly* the type of player it would be good not to have sign for Charlton.
So if Maddison is not one of the "Deals Pending" tweeted by Southall, then who is?
Have to be honest, the idea of a CM who was a target for us not to agree on an extra 1K a week in the position as is in, is bizarre.
I'm not a doom and gloomer but, we seriously need to pull our finger out and get some bodies in. Refusing to stump up an extra 52K pa or negotiating that, is not going to keep us up.
We can not keep saying after the next game we will get bodies in, we need liven up now.
So if we assembled say a 25 man squad all doing the same that extra 1k a week becomes 25k extra a week and £1.3m a year.
Frustrating I know as we need bodies in urgently but we do also have bodies coming back like Williams and JFC.
Agreed though we do need fresh bodies now but I get not overpaying for them too.
Regarding the demand from an agent for an additional £1K a week, my understanding is that was AFTER a deal had been agreed. If we’d fallen for that then that would have set the standard for all future player negotiations. If we were already at the maximum that Steve Gallen thought the player was worth then I think we made the right call.
So if Maddison is not one of the "Deals Pending" tweeted by Southall, then who is?
Have to be honest, the idea of a CM who was a target for us not to agree on an extra 1K a week in the position as is in, is bizarre.
I'm not a doom and gloomer but, we seriously need to pull our finger out and get some bodies in. Refusing to stump up an extra 52K pa or negotiating that, is not going to keep us up.
We can not keep saying after the next game we will get bodies in, we need liven up now.
So if we assembled say a 25 man squad all doing the same that extra 1k a week becomes 25k extra a week and £1.3m a year.
Frustrating I know as we need bodies in urgently but we do also have bodies coming back like Williams and JFC.
Agreed though we do need fresh bodies now but I get not overpaying for them too.
I get that but you can't work on that model. We are not trying to sign 25 players. We need ideally 3/4 players in. So say if all four wanted an extra 1k a week. That's 208k a year for 4 players?
Regarding the demand from an agent for an additional £1K a week, my understanding is that was AFTER a deal had been agreed. If we’d fallen for that then that would have set the standard for all future player negotiations. If we were already at the maximum that Steve Gallen thought the player was worth then I think we made the right call.
If the player was one of the players we have been linked with then it sounds like a case of cutting off the nose to spite the face. Got our chairman on sky sports news flirting with the idea of being in for players like Ivan Toney and then we hear we are skimping on wages to get some quality over the line. It's a bit frustrating. Even if it was after, as someone else said at least offer a quarter or half that, just sounds like as soon as a club or player want a bit extra we completely shut them off and that's not good for business
Sky reporting that Toffolo is off to Huddersfield... Wouldnt surprise me in the slightest seeing he'd be working with his old Manager
HUDDERSFIELD GETTING CLOSER ON TOFFOLO
Huddersfield are closing in on a deal to reunite Harry Toffolo with his former Lincoln boss Danny Cowley.
The Terriers are in advanced talks with the Imps to sign the left-back and there is understood to be an agreement on the fee.
Toffolo, 24, set to join pending the results of a medical and an agreement over personal terms.
I don’t believe we was ever actually in for him was we ?
Were, were, were, were.
I don't think we were either. Strikes me as a smug PR game to show willing....then backfired when CG got recalled.
Southall drives to Peterborough to meet their Chairman. Bowyer drives to Peterborough to discuss terms with Maddison. Negotiations continue with Maddison and we did it all for a game, for a laugh ha ha ha.
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HUDDERSFIELD GETTING CLOSER ON TOFFOLO
Huddersfield are closing in on a deal to reunite Harry Toffolo with his former Lincoln boss Danny Cowley.
The Terriers are in advanced talks with the Imps to sign the left-back and there is understood to be an agreement on the fee.
Toffolo, 24, set to join pending the results of a medical and an agreement over personal terms.
STEVE GALLEN: He's exactly the sort of player we are looking for
RICH CAWLEY: *tweet* I can confirm the story about Chunes and I have a quote from his manager
JIM WHITE: We will have an interview with Roland Duchatelet to ask him what he thinks about Chunes
SKY SPORTS: Stay Chuned for an update from The Valley
MATT SOUTHALL: I can confirm we have agreed terms with his current club for Chunes and several of his team mates
LEE BOWYER: The Chairman made me drive up there last night to have a chat to him
CHARLTON LIFE: How tall is he?
Our worry is we have all our main goalscorers out...Taylor/Bonne/Leko/Gallagher, so no idea what we plan to do.
I'm praying we get Bowyer and a decent, fit midfielder in before Preston!
Re: transfers, as others have said, I can’t see themselves committing £50m or whatever it is, just to see us in League One. MS has come out and said that he recognised the squad needs reinforcements, because relegation would be very bad.
We need players in for the next two games yes, but we need to do it a sustainable manner as MS has pointed out.
give them a chance
Fans want cheap football but want us to pay up for the players , madness
put the prices up double everyones season ticket and see how keen the fans really are for you to pay up , lose lose lose whatever way you turn in this game .
If you think we can write those points off and wait for Barnsley then you are probably going to feel better about things than me. But I honestly feel these two games coming up are vitally important and I would have expected us to be better prepared for them in terms of personnel given we are on day 16 of the transfer window.
He is very confident he wants to go to Hull, but will only happen if Jarrod Bowen moves.
Have to be honest, the idea of a CM who was a target for us not to agree on an extra 1K a week in the position as is in, is bizarre.
I'm not a doom and gloomer but, we seriously need to pull our finger out and get some bodies in. Refusing to stump up an extra 52K pa or negotiating that, is not going to keep us up.
We can not keep saying after the next game we will get bodies in, we need liven up now.
Frustrating I know as we need bodies in urgently but we do also have bodies coming back like Williams and JFC.
Agreed though we do need fresh bodies now but I get not overpaying for them too.
Bowyer drives to Peterborough to discuss terms with Maddison.
Negotiations continue with Maddison and we did it all for a game, for a laugh ha ha ha.
- Mike Tyson.
Prefer that version tbh.