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January 2020 transfer rumours thread (Deadline Day starts Page 283)
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I'm as frustrated as the next person but we have no idea what Maddison was asking for, and how that would effect our overall wage structure etc.CAFCsayer said:covered_end_junior said:
This is bollocks... They need to start pulling their finger out or we are nailed on for relegation13 -
This is getting a bit silly now, surely you’d sound out the agent and get a rough idea on wages before bidding 2.5 million,covered_end_junior said:
i really hope they bring in a player or two today/tomorrow because people are getting nervous and fed up,
they’re still in credit with me and I’m liking everything else I’m seeing and reading but several bids made contracts offered and nothings getting across the finishing line.3 -
Fair enough, move on and get some other deals over the line now then.1
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I'm gonna be playing in midfield on Saturday at this rate0
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Seeing that news about Maddison just as I was updating the bitesize thread. On there now. My bloody typing hasn't got the dexterity to do this in real time. Still, stops me from doing any work, so can't complain1
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Exactly this... He's a former agent ffsJamie19 said:
This is getting a bit silly now, surely you’d sound out the agent and get a rough idea on wages before bidding 2.5 million,covered_end_junior said:
i really hope they bring in a player or two today/tomorrow because people are getting nervous and fed up,
they’re still in credit with me and I’m liking everything else I’m seeing and reading but several bids made contracts offered and nothings getting across the finishing line.
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If you are bidding 2.5mil for a player you would surely know they are going be asking for high wages? Nothing is ever strait forward with Charlton
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Would have thought Southall being an ex-agent would've meant deals getting done easily. Seems like the opposite.0
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Just means he knows what over paying for someone means. I like the fact that our owners won't be pushed around over money. It means they're doing it properly and won't put us at risk of FFP.Chunes said:Would have thought Southall being an ex-agent would've meant deals getting done easily. Seems like the opposite.2 -
Does that include the manager too?0
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Maddison is probably prepared to stay where he is until the summer, will no doubt be able to negotiate higher wages when he's on a free.4
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I think before putting in a bid you'd pretty much know what wage he was currently on & what he'd be looking for. All sounds a bit amateurish to me.FishCostaFortune said:
I'm as frustrated as the next person but we have no idea what Maddison was asking for, and how that would effect our overall wage structure etc.CAFCsayer said:covered_end_junior said:
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He doesn’t seem like the easiest of characters and he’s out of contract in 6 months, with a host of clubs likely to offer him a good deal with a healthy signing on fee. He could be taking absolute liberties with his demands with us.15
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This, MS has stated that it’s all about sustainability and building slowly and expediently, we should not be held to ransom by players or their agents because they think we are now minted or Man City MKII, if the deals not right for the club, pull outFishCostaFortune said:
I'm as frustrated as the next person but we have no idea what Maddison was asking for, and how that would effect our overall wage structure etc.CAFCsayer said:covered_end_junior said:
This is bollocks... They need to start pulling their finger out or we are nailed on for relegation7 -
This feels like what happened with Williams in the summer - on hold, revisit later on when we have a better idea of what budget is left, or to see if Maddison lowers his demands.3
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Because the Custodians of cafc are from the UAE is this becoming a problem as League one Players believe they should be offered a Middling Championship wage and not a low championship wage ?
Anyone who is an agent or ex agent with a network of contracts would be aware of the going rates for players. Steve Gallen said a number of offers have been made to clubs and other than Green on the first day it's been quieter than a gathering of Carthusian monks.1 - Sponsored links:
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Football transfers are not as black and white as that though are they. For Charlton and every other club in the world bar maybe the top 1%.golfaddick said:
I think before putting in a bid you'd pretty much know what wage he was currently on & what he'd be looking for. All sounds a bit amateurish to me.FishCostaFortune said:
I'm as frustrated as the next person but we have no idea what Maddison was asking for, and how that would effect our overall wage structure etc.CAFCsayer said:covered_end_junior said:
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I'm sure they spoke to Maddison agent before going into talks, but it doesn't stop the player or his reps taking the piss when they get in the room.4
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Alternatively, give up on Maddison and sign a few players that want to be here. But sign them quickly - we have a game on Saturday and then Tuesday (6 important points). At this stage we are more than struggling for midfielders and strikers!2
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Yep. 2 weeks to go, time for him to reduce his demands if he wants to & time for us to increase ours if we want to.Scoham said:This feels like what happened with Williams in the summer - on hold, revisit later on when we have a better idea of what budget is left, or to see if Maddison lowers his demands.
If we don't get in a few good 'uns we might increase our offer.
It's an auction/poker and the game ends on the 31st January, unless one party chooses to end it beforehand.1 -
I respect that we are managing to a budget, and have a wage structure which we try to adhere to. But the cost of relegation would be huge. Got to get the balance right.
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Just hope our wage structure can survive this window , nothing would be worse than signing some decent players for highly inflated salaries .
Fingers crossed we can stay streamline and at the lower end , good times .
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In footballing terms at championship level it is absolutely f all though. I could understand if it was an extra 5k a week or so but 1k and a straight rejection is poor showing. Same as the Gnanduillet bid, ok so they want double, offer half and go from there, we have 0 bargaining skills unless it's for a player on the cheap by the sounds of things, this isn't league 1 anymore, we aren't gonna get by offering 4k a week 2 year contracts.TEL said:
In the real world 52k a year is a lot of moneyBraziliance said:I really hope that Midfielder wasn't Mowatt or Maddison that we were penny pinching over, 52k a year extra is hardly crazy money for a proper player
Football world isn't realistic as far as money goes I'm afraid.
5-8k a week contracts = more than likely bang average players = chance of relegation every season. How a group has spent millions and now won't break the wage structure ever so slightly is beyond me1 -
If I was Maddison I wouldn’t move until the summer, leave on a free and get paid a bigger salary/signing on fee.
It would be a bad deal for Peterborough because not only would I be depriving them of a transfer fee but I would also spend the rest of the season avoiding any situation that could lead to me being injured (including any sort of tackling) and ruining my pay day, but that’s the sort of guy I am.1 -
Bowyer had a low budget under Douchebag but managed to get deals done. Seeing as the urgency to own us was around having a transfer window to cement our place in the division, you have to think the budget is significantly higher than the summer one! It is just we are not seeing any hard evidence of it yet and that includes getting Bowyer signed up himself beyond his current deal!4
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Yep, so we ask Posh to reduce their transfer fee, in order to pay Maddison more.se9addick said:If I was Maddison I wouldn’t move until the summer, leave on a free and get paid a bigger salary/signing on fee.
It would be a bad deal for Peterborough because not only would I be depriving them of a transfer fee but I would also spend the rest of the season avoiding any situation that could lead to me being injured (including any sort of tackling) and ruining my pay day, but that’s the sort of guy I am.
If they don't they will get nothing.
As it stands I've heard nothing to say any other club have met the break clause, so it's still only us allowed to talk to him.2
