Must be the only ground in the country where the police shit themselves so much that they're worried about 2 sets of fans in DIFFERENT stands. If it was a wrap around stadium then i'd maybe understand it a bit but how can they not sell the lower tier when fans go in different stands?
Even Rangers and Celtic manage to segregate fans in the same stand.
Yep, even West Ham had the lower tier once. Maybe its Millwall's decision because they dont want to pay for the extra policing/stewards.
Must be the only ground in the country where the police shit themselves so much that they're worried about 2 sets of fans in DIFFERENT stands. If it was a wrap around stadium then i'd maybe understand it a bit but how can they not sell the lower tier when fans go in different stands?
Even Rangers and Celtic manage to segregate fans in the same stand.
It is odd, and looks daft on TV. Most other grounds in the country seems to cope with away fans next to the pitch, and if some dickhead wanted to throw a flare on the pitch they could do it from the upper tier anyway. Or if they are worried about away fans being too close to home ones, either close off the end blocks or close off the end blocks of the home stands.
Must be the only ground in the country where the police shit themselves so much that they're worried about 2 sets of fans in DIFFERENT stands. If it was a wrap around stadium then i'd maybe understand it a bit but how can they not sell the lower tier when fans go in different stands?
Even Rangers and Celtic manage to segregate fans in the same stand.
Yep, even West Ham had the lower tier once. Maybe its Millwall's decision because they dont want to pay for the extra policing/stewards.
Surely the revenue from those extra fans would more than pay for more stewards/Police.
The lower tier has been used a few times and has usually resulted in problems - West Ham, Liverpool, us.
I think it is unique in that it is so close to the lower side stand, where a number of Millwalls more likely chaps stand. There is therefore the chance (however unlikely - we know what those invisible walls are like) that it will boil over and result in people on the pitch, which no one wants, esp Millwall the club.
What is bewildering is why the league, police or FA have not made Millwall close the ends of those side stands to defuse the potential problems, as they know they originate due to those who occupy those areas and it has happened at many other clubs.
As for some of our boasting we’d sell whatever were given, let’s not make ourselves look silly, we can hardly gloat too much given historic turnouts. We manage it now it’s an easy away day and so we should.
The lower tier has been used a few times and has usually resulted in problems - West Ham, Liverpool, us.
I think it is unique in that it is so close to the lower side stand, where a number of Millwalls more likely chaps stand. There is therefore the chance (however unlikely - we know what those invisible walls are like) that it will boil over and result in people on the pitch, which no one wants, esp Millwall the club.
What is bewildering is why the league, police or FA have not made Millwall close the ends of those side stands to defuse the potential problems, as they know they originate due to those who occupy those areas and it has happened at many other clubs.
As for some of our boasting we’d sell whatever were given, let’s not make ourselves look silly, we can hardly gloat too much given historic turnouts. We manage it now it’s an easy away day and so we should.
Anytime i've been to Millwall the 'chaps' in the end blocks that you refer to have always been about 14.
If they can sort segregation at Rangers/Celtic, Man U/Liverpool, Newcastle/Sunderland, Villa/Birmingham, then it's just bizarre how they can't do it at Millwall.
As you say, just close off the end block in either stand and be done with it.
Does the lower tier @ Sheffield Wednesday ever get used?
Only ever been in the upper tier of the away end when I've gone to Hillsborough
Was in the lower tier for the cup game a few years ago. I think it was anyway, don't recall being too far above SCP when he was swinging from the crossbar!!
My son knows somebody who works in the ticket office at millwall - he reckons we will be getting the lower tier - whether he is wrong or on a wind up i don't know (the ticket office kid not my son). I also presume he means the top tier as well but again i don't know. Just passing on info - it could well be nonsense and it would be surprising but hope its right - i think we would sell both tiers comfortably.
The reason for not getting the lower tier at the last game was because those naughty chaps on the side in their pink Lacoste polo shirts started getting things out of their man bags and throwing them at us. I almost got hit by a lipseal the last time I was there.
The reason for not getting the lower tier at the last game was because those naughty chaps on the side in their pink Lacoste polo shirts started getting things out of their man bags and throwing them at us. I almost got hit by a lipseal the last time I was there.
Oh the irony.... that could have split one of your lips !!
The reason for not getting the lower tier at the last game was because those naughty chaps on the side in their pink Lacoste polo shirts started getting things out of their man bags and throwing them at us. I almost got hit by a lipseal the last time I was there.
To be fair - the entertainment value in watching them cretins acting up for 90 minutes is one of the features of an away day at millwall - wouldn't be the same without it - if only we could get a win and watch one self combust. There would be bits of lacoste, man bag and flat cap everywhere but it would be worth it as long as the game didn't get abandoned. I was there in 96 but don't remember them being so embarrassing then . They've got more ridiculous year on year.
My son knows somebody who works in the ticket office at millwall - he reckons we will be getting the lower tier - whether he is wrong or on a wind up i don't know (the ticket office kid not my son). I also presume he means the top tier as well but again i don't know. Just passing on info - it could well be nonsense and it would be surprising but hope its right - i think we would sell both tiers comfortably.
Has been discussed between the clubs. Not sure what the outcome was.
No chance that lower tier holds 2,000 when the Upper holds about 2,200?
Probably about 3,200 if the full bottom tier is allocated, wouldn't surprise me if the end blocks aren't made available if the lower tier is available at all.
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I think it is unique in that it is so close to the lower side stand, where a number of Millwalls more likely chaps stand. There is therefore the chance (however unlikely - we know what those invisible walls are like) that it will boil over and result in people on the pitch, which no one wants, esp Millwall the club.
What is bewildering is why the league, police or FA have not made Millwall close the ends of those side stands to defuse the potential problems, as they know they originate due to those who occupy those areas and it has happened at many other clubs.
As for some of our boasting we’d sell whatever were given, let’s not make ourselves look silly, we can hardly gloat too much given historic turnouts. We manage it now it’s an easy away day and so we should.
If they can sort segregation at Rangers/Celtic, Man U/Liverpool, Newcastle/Sunderland, Villa/Birmingham, then it's just bizarre how they can't do it at Millwall.
As you say, just close off the end block in either stand and be done with it.
Only ever been in the upper tier of the away end when I've gone to Hillsborough
Was in the lower tier for the cup game a few years ago. I think it was anyway, don't recall being too far above SCP when he was swinging from the crossbar!!
To be fair - the entertainment value in watching them cretins acting up for 90 minutes is one of the features of an away day at millwall - wouldn't be the same without it - if only we could get a win and watch one self combust. There would be bits of lacoste, man bag and flat cap everywhere but it would be worth it as long as the game didn't get abandoned. I was there in 96 but don't remember them being so embarrassing then . They've got more ridiculous year on year.
If we did get lower and upper tier, does anybody know how many tickets that would equate to?
Probably about 3,200 if the full bottom tier is allocated, wouldn't surprise me if the end blocks aren't made available if the lower tier is available at all.