What's the basics you are looking for? Enough money to make us competitive with a chance of promotion. Someone who gets the Charlton way; communicates with fans and takes onboard our views.
What's your dream scenario?
A mega wealthy owner with a good background rather than a shady Sheikh or Russian who wants to blow mental loads of cash on getting us to the top of the football period whilst keeping season tickets cheap.
What would worry you?
If the club was ever separated from the ground or training ground and I would prefer if the new owners did not come from some despot country known for human rights abuses or money laundering and just saw football as buying a clean image.
What would be your red line no no's?
If club and assets were seperated.
What's your exit strategy?
I genuinely don't care about the answer of that question and would not expect an answer from a new owner
Charlton's owners to "get" some of the things that make this club worthy of the pride its supporters have
Development of local players, through to the first team, and for them to be given the opportunity to continue to develop while they're established first team players
Continue making Charlton a safe, friendly and welcoming place for every fan, whatever colour, religion, sexuality or disability
Ensure the Manager knows his role and knows his targets; and is given the budget with which to achieve them
Valley Gold to be protected, encouraged and transparent
The museum to have a guaranteed security of tenure
All staff - from playing, through coaching, backroom, administrative, media and commercial - to be given the tools to do their job, thanked for what they do and encouraged to have pride in their employer
What's your dream scenario?
All of the above. But with bigger budgets.
What would worry you?
Any situation where any number of fans voice the question "would this have been better if the other lot had bought us?"
What would be your red line no no's?
Kit colour change from red
A feeder-club relationship with another club, at home or abroad
2. Willing to lose £130M over the next ten years, the FFP max. Since 1/2 of all clubs in the Championship exceed this already, I don't think it's asking as much as it sounds.
3. Honest communication with the fans about goals, expectations and, if planned, their exit strategy
Ambition but not to the point of obscene spending. Organic growth of the club with heavy focus on academy Good understanding of what Charlton is all about. A genuine rapport with the fans and local community.
Averageness. Reasonable communication with the fans. Reasonable investment. Reasonable respect for the club and its history. Reasonable treatment of staff, players, management. Then, if we do well, that will be real success.
I'm not wishing for the stars, just some sort of return to normality and stability in the way a club should be run. Everyone, the board, executive, staff, fans can then all pull together in the same direction on and off the field.
Success on the pitch would be great but I'd happily settle for mid table Championship mediocrity in the short to medium term.
There's a 40k supporter base out there who have had to endure the workings of a madman since 2014, that deserve so, so much better, bring it on! JSTC&FRO
Based on a list I posted a few years ago in a similar thread:
1. Financial stability. Pay the wages and bills, don’t break financial fair play rules etc.
2. Develop the players we have. That includes both academy players becoming first team players and the manager improving senior players.
3. Sensible investment outside the playing squad, the pitch and stadium, training ground, academy to get to category 1, CEO and other senior appointments etc.
4. A competitive and balanced squad, with the bulk of the squad here for the longer term.
5. Well thought out signings with the right ability and character. We shouldn’t need a huge rebuild of the squad every summer, especially Championship level or above. If the owner has a network then know how to use it in a way that suits both the clubs and the players.
6. Long term managerial appointments. We already have the right manager, so that means getting Bowyer signed up on a long term contract.
7. Remain at The Valley unless there’s a very good reason to move that the majority of the fan base can buy into. Get a lot of this list right and maybe one day we’ll have a reason to expand the ground.
8. Entertaining football. Pass out from the back but avoid tippy tappy possession for possessions sake. An energetic and skilful team that plays attacking football but can be more cautious when needed. Bowyer is by far the best at this compared to all previous managers after Curbs (difficult to compare to him given we were in the Prem).
9. Ambition to play Premier League football and have cup runs.
10. A club trying to grow the fan base. Good communication from the club and involving fans where there are opportunities to.
Roland offers the first two and did some of point 3 in the first few years.
He got incredibly lucky with Bowyer and he probably doesn’t even realise it. Bowyer’s done such a brilliant job on some of the other points such as signings and playing style that we’ve seen a few thousand more season tickets sold compared to this time last year. He’s also ambitious (point 9) with high expectations which seems to rub off on the squad and fans. He expected to compete for promotion last season, that level of expectation wasn’t there under Roland’s previous appointments.
A new owner won’t be perfect but if they can get a lot of the above right they should be doing a much better job than the current one.
Charlton's owners to "get" some of the things that make this club worthy of the pride its supporters have
Development of local players, through to the first team, and for them to be given the opportunity to continue to develop while they're established first team players
Continue making Charlton a safe, friendly and welcoming place for every fan, whatever colour, religion, sexuality or disability
Ensure the Manager knows his role and knows his targets; and is given the budget with which to achieve them
Valley Gold to be protected, encouraged and transparent
The museum to have a guaranteed security of tenure
All staff - from playing, through coaching, backroom, administrative, media and commercial - to be given the tools to do their job, thanked for what they do and encouraged to have pride in their employer
What's your dream scenario?
All of the above. But with bigger budgets.
What would worry you?
Any situation where any number of fans voice the question "would this have been better if the other lot had bought us?"
What would be your red line no no's?
Kit colour change from red
A feeder-club relationship with another club, at home or abroad
The richest person in the world, capable of outbidding anybody with a desire to make us Premier League and European champions - big tits shown transparently a bonus.
Charlton's owners to "get" some of the things that make this club worthy of the pride its supporters have
Development of local players, through to the first team, and for them to be given the opportunity to continue to develop while they're established first team players
Continue making Charlton a safe, friendly and welcoming place for every fan, whatever colour, religion, sexuality or disability
Ensure the Manager knows his role and knows his targets; and is given the budget with which to achieve them
Valley Gold to be protected, encouraged and transparent
The museum to have a guaranteed security of tenure
All staff - from playing, through coaching, backroom, administrative, media and commercial - to be given the tools to do their job, thanked for what they do and encouraged to have pride in their employer
What's your dream scenario?
All of the above. But with bigger budgets.
What would worry you?
Any situation where any number of fans voice the question "would this have been better if the other lot had bought us?"
What would be your red line no no's?
Kit colour change from red
A feeder-club relationship with another club, at home or abroad
Groundsharing away from The Valley
Red, Red Robin not being played
Fucking sofas
Is this your manifesto? :-)
It will be, if my numbers come up on the Euromillions rollover next week...
Taking it away from the main Takeover thread it would be interesting to know exactly what people would want in or from new owners.
What's the basics you are looking for?
What's your dream scenario?
What would worry you?
what would be your red line no no's?
What's your exit strategy? :-)
1. A true Ambition to making us a premier league side. Also a willingness to invest in developing our youth better. 2. Very wealthy, knows football, willing to invest, nationality not important. 3. The Aussies or another Roland type. 4. A drug lord/people trafficker would be pretty uninspiring.
Charlton's owners to "get" some of the things that make this club worthy of the pride its supporters have
Development of local players, through to the first team, and for them to be given the opportunity to continue to develop while they're established first team players
Continue making Charlton a safe, friendly and welcoming place for every fan, whatever colour, religion, sexuality or disability
Ensure the Manager knows his role and knows his targets; and is given the budget with which to achieve them
Valley Gold to be protected, encouraged and transparent
The museum to have a guaranteed security of tenure
All staff - from playing, through coaching, backroom, administrative, media and commercial - to be given the tools to do their job, thanked for what they do and encouraged to have pride in their employer
What's your dream scenario?
All of the above. But with bigger budgets.
What would worry you?
Any situation where any number of fans voice the question "would this have been better if the other lot had bought us?"
What would be your red line no no's?
Kit colour change from red
A feeder-club relationship with another club, at home or abroad
Groundsharing away from The Valley
Red, Red Robin not being played
Fucking sofas
Is this your manifesto? :-)
It will be, if my numbers come up on the Euromillions rollover next week...
Taking it away from the main Takeover thread it would be interesting to know exactly what people would want in or from new owners.
What's the basics you are looking for?
What's your dream scenario?
What would worry you?
what would be your red line no no's?
What's your exit strategy? :-)
Basics
Owner who knows and understands football at non prem, is communicative, understands the good and bad of fans, has patience.
Dream
Fan owner with money or access through his partners. Invests in academy and continues the conveyor belt of quality youth recruited and coming through to the 1st team.
Invests in players to improve the squad but does not mortgage the club.
Sees Prem as a target, but not the promised land .. playing quality, entertaining g football is the promised land.
The richest person in the world, capable of outbidding anybody with a desire to make us Premier League and European champions - big tits shown transparently a bonus. update - and must stay at The Valley.
A quick question if I may, although @bertpalmeris better at these things.
If you had to choose between the ambition (ie loads of money and happy to chuck it around) or the holistic approach. Which would you choose? The general feeling is we all want both, but which is more important to you?
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If not that, a football fan.
Someone who understands about winning and competing.
Not an oligarch or oil sheik or anyone from dirty money.
What's the basics you are looking for?
Charlton's owners to "get" some of the things that make this club worthy of the pride its supporters have
What's your dream scenario?
All of the above. But with bigger budgets.
What would worry you?
Any situation where any number of fans voice the question "would this have been better if the other lot had bought us?"
What would be your red line no no's?
And a decent portion of chips.
Organic growth of the club with heavy focus on academy
Good understanding of what Charlton is all about.
A genuine rapport with the fans and local community.
A Cafc fan said to me:
"I want mid table happiness"
The wise one replied,
"First remove I," for that is ego.
"Then remove want for that is desire"
"See you are now left with mid table happiness"
The fan left joyous in thoughts of mid table happiness.
Budda soapboxsam was left with a large stomach.
Stability in employees both on and off the pitch.
Stability in financing of the club.
Oh, and turning up (nearly) every week would be nice...
I'm not wishing for the stars, just some sort of return to normality and stability in the way a club should be run. Everyone, the board, executive, staff, fans can then all pull together in the same direction on and off the field.
Success on the pitch would be great but I'd happily settle for mid table Championship mediocrity in the short to medium term.
There's a 40k supporter base out there who have had to endure the workings of a madman since 2014, that deserve so, so much better, bring it on! JSTC&FRO
1. Financial stability. Pay the wages and bills, don’t break financial fair play rules etc.
2. Develop the players we have. That includes both academy players becoming first team players and the manager improving senior players.
3. Sensible investment outside the playing squad, the pitch and stadium, training ground, academy to get to category 1, CEO and other senior appointments etc.
4. A competitive and balanced squad, with the bulk of the squad here for the longer term.
5. Well thought out signings with the right ability and character. We shouldn’t need a huge rebuild of the squad every summer, especially Championship level or above. If the owner has a network then know how to use it in a way that suits both the clubs and the players.
6. Long term managerial appointments. We already have the right manager, so that means getting Bowyer signed up on a long term contract.
7. Remain at The Valley unless there’s a very good reason to move that the majority of the fan base can buy into. Get a lot of this list right and maybe one day we’ll have a reason to expand the ground.
8. Entertaining football. Pass out from the back but avoid tippy tappy possession for possessions sake. An energetic and skilful team that plays attacking football but can be more cautious when needed. Bowyer is by far the best at this compared to all previous managers after Curbs (difficult to compare to him given we were in the Prem).
9. Ambition to play Premier League football and have cup runs.
10. A club trying to grow the fan base. Good communication from the club and involving fans where there are opportunities to.
Roland offers the first two and did some of point 3 in the first few years.
He got incredibly lucky with Bowyer and he probably doesn’t even realise it. Bowyer’s done such a brilliant job on some of the other points such as signings and playing style that we’ve seen a few thousand more season tickets sold compared to this time last year. He’s also ambitious (point 9) with high expectations which seems to rub off on the squad and fans. He expected to compete for promotion last season, that level of expectation wasn’t there under Roland’s previous appointments.
A new owner won’t be perfect but if they can get a lot of the above right they should be doing a much better job than the current one.
And has the wisdom to sit back and let Bowyer, JJ and Gallen get on with it.
2. Very wealthy, knows football, willing to invest, nationality not important.
3. The Aussies or another Roland type.
4. A drug lord/people trafficker would be pretty uninspiring.
Owner who knows and understands football at non prem, is communicative, understands the good and bad of fans, has patience.
Dream
Fan owner with money or access through his partners. Invests in academy and continues the conveyor belt of quality youth recruited and coming through to the 1st team.
Invests in players to improve the squad but does not mortgage the club.
Sees Prem as a target, but not the promised land .. playing quality, entertaining g football is the promised land.
Worry
Limited funding, property developer, poor communicator, no footballing experience, poor reputation eg unfit owner.
Red Line
Not sure but something to do with criminal record and human rights. For instance a Saudi prince may scare journalists
Anyone who understands the background of Charlton and what the club has done for the area.
Must be able to converse with management and fans alike.
Must be in it for the future of the club regardless.
The Valley is our home and Always will be.
Build the club up, does not matter to me how slowly this is done but the heart of the club is the fans and people who work for this club.
Have this understanding and the club will grow and be strong and united again.
A quick question if I may, although @bertpalmeris better at these things.
If you had to choose between the ambition (ie loads of money and happy to chuck it around) or the holistic approach. Which would you choose? The general feeling is we all want both, but which is more important to you?
Just to be able to sing, "We've got our Charlton back".
2) an elected fan representative as a voting member of the board.