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(non Charlton) 2019 Summer Transfers - Deadline Day from Pg.24
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The fact that people are staggered at fees now.cafcfan1990 said:
What has a players bank account got to do with the transfer fee though?orpingtonRED said:
Its got to do with what is being saidcafcfan1990 said:
What’s that got to do with anything?orpingtonRED said:Celtic paid about 2.5m for Van Dijk. He moved to Southhampton for 14m then to Liverpool for 76m
I very much doubt Van Dijk has seen 70m in his bank account
Agents are making a killing.
Van Dijk done well as did his agents. But Van Dijk dont have 70m in the bank.
And if Mings goes for 20m he will probably see about a quarter of that if hes lucky. So agents are taking a lot of money out of the game
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Not sure what that has to do with Mings not being worth 20m+orpingtonRED said:Celtic paid about 2.5m for Van Dijk. He moved to Southhampton for 14m then to Liverpool for 76m
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Just saying he could go for for 70m in 2yrs like Van Dijk did. So 20m is not that shocking to me. I dont see why all the shock at Mings price.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Not sure what that has to do with Mings not being worth 20m+orpingtonRED said:Celtic paid about 2.5m for Van Dijk. He moved to Southhampton for 14m then to Liverpool for 76m
I very much doubt Van Dijk has seen 70m in his bank account1 -
I honestly don’t mean to be rude but I’m not sure you understand transfers. This has nothing to do with agents and it’s about the money in the Prem that average players now go for 20mil.orpingtonRED said:
The fact that people are staggered at fees now.cafcfan1990 said:
What has a players bank account got to do with the transfer fee though?orpingtonRED said:
Its got to do with what is being saidcafcfan1990 said:
What’s that got to do with anything?orpingtonRED said:Celtic paid about 2.5m for Van Dijk. He moved to Southhampton for 14m then to Liverpool for 76m
I very much doubt Van Dijk has seen 70m in his bank account
Agents are making a killing.
Van Dijk done well as did his agents. But Van Dijk dont have 70m in the bank.
And if Mings goes for 20m he will probably see about a quarter of that if hes lucky. So agents are taking a lot of money out of the game
The 20mil is the fee between clubs. I don’t doubt Mings is going to get a nice signing on fee but nowhere near 5mil.1 -
I undertand transferscafcfan1990 said:
I honestly don’t mean to be rude but I’m not sure you understand transfers. This has nothing to do with agents and it’s about the money in the Prem that average players now go for 20mil.orpingtonRED said:
The fact that people are staggered at fees now.cafcfan1990 said:
What has a players bank account got to do with the transfer fee though?orpingtonRED said:
Its got to do with what is being saidcafcfan1990 said:
What’s that got to do with anything?orpingtonRED said:Celtic paid about 2.5m for Van Dijk. He moved to Southhampton for 14m then to Liverpool for 76m
I very much doubt Van Dijk has seen 70m in his bank account
Agents are making a killing.
Van Dijk done well as did his agents. But Van Dijk dont have 70m in the bank.
And if Mings goes for 20m he will probably see about a quarter of that if hes lucky. So agents are taking a lot of money out of the game
The 20mil is the fee between clubs. I don’t doubt Mings is going to get a nice signing on fee but nowhere near 5mil.1 -
You would be surprised at how much an agent makes in deal.0
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And i dont mean Messi deal, agents are making money at Charlton included0
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I’m not arguing they don’t. But I really don’t understand why you are bringing agents fees and players bank accounts into a discussion about a players transfer fee.0
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Coz agents have a lot of say. And make money obviously.cafcfan1990 said:I’m not arguing they don’t. But I really don’t understand why you are bringing agents fees and players bank accounts into a discussion about a players transfer fee.
Why is it not something to be mentioned. I am not arguing either mate but trust me you would be shocked how much agents make at little old charlton0 -
I guess it’s relevant because the more that a club spend on agent fees the less they’ll have left to spend elsewhere.cafcfan1990 said:I’m not arguing they don’t. But I really don’t understand why you are bringing agents fees and players bank accounts into a discussion about a players transfer fee.0 - Sponsored links:
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I got lost at the bit about Van Dijk not having the 70 million in his pocketcafcfan1990 said:I’m not arguing they don’t. But I really don’t understand why you are bringing agents fees and players bank accounts into a discussion about a players transfer fee.
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£26 mil for Mings, £15 mil for Matt Targett games gone mad3
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Ming’s also never made it at Bournemouth following his £7/£9million transfer from Ipswich - albeit the guy had rotten luck with injuries. I think he only ever played about 15 or so games for them.
One decent season at Villa on loan makes the £26 million fee pretty baffling.
Given the absurdity of the current market, Roland must almost be regretting presiding over our descent into League 1 and then failing to safeguard assets like Karlan Grant and Joe Aribo pending the sale that never was.0 -
To be honest, I wouldn't be shocked at all. And I do completely agree that agents are making a lot of money, the power they have is way too much IMO.orpingtonRED said:
Coz agents have a lot of say. And make money obviously.cafcfan1990 said:I’m not arguing they don’t. But I really don’t understand why you are bringing agents fees and players bank accounts into a discussion about a players transfer fee.
Why is it not something to be mentioned. I am not arguing either mate but trust me you would be shocked how much agents make at little old charlton
But in terms of a players fee, like Mings in this case, agents fees are irrelevant in the crazy sums that clubs are now paying for players. When we were in the Prem, Mings would have been 3 mil at most.
Football has gone crazy since then and whilst agents are contributing to the issues within football, it's not a factor here and I still don't understand why you brought up agents fees or how much a player makes from a deal in reply to how much Mings is being valued at.1 -
Agreed, but how does that inflate a players transfer fee?se9addick said:
I guess it’s relevant because the more that a club spend on agent fees the less they’ll have left to spend elsewhere.cafcfan1990 said:I’m not arguing they don’t. But I really don’t understand why you are bringing agents fees and players bank accounts into a discussion about a players transfer fee.0 -
Not a transfer, but Mitrovic has signed a new contract at Fulham which is a massive boost for them as at Championship level he will be lethal1
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It inflates it to an extent. This is why we have these ‘super agents’ within the game like Mino Raiola and Jorge Mendes. Okay they’re extreme examples but that’s how it works. These agents have their clients, being the players. In terms of a deal, they will know when one of their clients are in demand and another club wants that specific player. So what they do is act like a middle man between the selling and buying club but it is all for their own benefit.cafcfan1990 said:
Agreed, but how does that inflate a players transfer fee?se9addick said:
I guess it’s relevant because the more that a club spend on agent fees the less they’ll have left to spend elsewhere.cafcfan1990 said:I’m not arguing they don’t. But I really don’t understand why you are bringing agents fees and players bank accounts into a discussion about a players transfer fee.
If the buying club wants a player, the agent will say how much they believe he will cost to buy. They go back to the selling club and say a different price. It gets negotiated and because of being the middle man, and they represent the asset as such, the agent gets a cut of the deal. But to ensure the selling club get the money they want for the player, the value increases because the agent will get their fee too.
So of course, the money in the game has gone mental and is the major factor. But agents do you play a part in the inflated prices because they’re in it for their cut too and they know the money is there so demand higher prices, including wages, for their clients which will in turn benefit themselves too.0 -
Surprised at this though he is getting a bit injury prone. Jansson is/was a Leeds fan's favourite and can be a bit of an animal. Brentford will be formidable this coming season, though they will miss Maupay (gone for More Pay ?).Braziliance said:Neil Maupay is going to Sheffield United for 20 million apparently.
Brentford are signing Pontus Jansson from Leeds for 5.5 million. Brentfords turn around over the years has been excellent. Always selling their best players on for good value and then snapping up talent on the cheap, if they keep this model up they will have that promotion season eventuallyBraziliance said:Neil Maupay is going to Sheffield United for 20 million apparently.
Brentford are signing Pontus Jansson from Leeds for 5.5 million. Brentfords turn around over the years has been excellent. Always selling their best players on for good value and then snapping up talent on the cheap, if they keep this model up they will have that promotion season eventually
Maupay is another who likes to put it about (in this context meaning he is a bit of a dirty fecker) .. he reminds me of B'Mouth's Wilson and could be a 'bargain' at a reported £20 Million
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Wouldn’t moneyball suggest you have ambition to keep progressing? His aim seemed to be floating around in mid table of the Championship and at least breaking even by selling young players. He thought he’d save costs by using the network and our academy.Richard J said:
Wasn't that Roland's strategy. Moneyball?Braziliance said:Neil Maupay is going to Sheffield United for 20 million apparently.
Brentford are signing Pontus Jansson from Leeds for 5.5 million. Brentfords turn around over the years has been excellent. Always selling their best players on for good value and then snapping up talent on the cheap, if they keep this model up they will have that promotion season eventually
However, the execution of it left a lot to be desired.
The fact that Brentford can outbid us is depressing. I would still maintain that we have more potential as a club.
Aiming so low in the Championship was always eventually going to end in relegation. The FFP rules changed didn’t help either as other clubs could then have much bigger budgets than us0 -
It was reported yesterday that we had agreed a £750k fee with Reading for Jón Dadi Bödvarsson.
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Who him?Big_Bad_World said:It was reported yesterday that we had agreed a £750k fee with Reading for Jón Dadi Bödvarsson.
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Redrobo said:
Who him?Big_Bad_World said:It was reported yesterday that we had agreed a £750k fee with Reading for Jón Dadi Bödvarsson.
Icelandic winger/striker, formerly of Wolves, now at Reading.Has to be an improvement on Tom Elliott. Anything would be an improvement on Tom Elliott.
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I think you are confusing me with someone who cares. 😐Big_Bad_World said:Redrobo said:
Who him?Big_Bad_World said:It was reported yesterday that we had agreed a £750k fee with Reading for Jón Dadi Bödvarsson.
Icelandic winger/striker, formerly of Wolves, now at Reading.Has to be an improvement on Tom Elliott. Anything would be an improvement on Tom Elliott.
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I’m not sure they are, you asked...Redrobo said:
I think you are confusing me with someone who cares. 😐Big_Bad_World said:Redrobo said:
Who him?Big_Bad_World said:It was reported yesterday that we had agreed a £750k fee with Reading for Jón Dadi Bödvarsson.
Icelandic winger/striker, formerly of Wolves, now at Reading.Has to be an improvement on Tom Elliott. Anything would be an improvement on Tom Elliott.
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Redrobo said:
I think you are confusing me with someone who cares. 😐Big_Bad_World said:Redrobo said:
Who him?Big_Bad_World said:It was reported yesterday that we had agreed a £750k fee with Reading for Jón Dadi Bödvarsson.
Icelandic winger/striker, formerly of Wolves, now at Reading.Has to be an improvement on Tom Elliott. Anything would be an improvement on Tom Elliott.
Oh, right. It's just that you asked a question so I thought I'd be polite and answer it.Sorry, tough guy.
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9454566/barcelona-sign-england-louie-barry-psg-transfer/
Another club losing one of their academy stars. This time it's WBA losing England youth striker Louie Barry to Barcelona, getting just £235000 compensation0 -
Looking into it, it seems the clubs after him were RB Leipzig, PSG and Barca. Strange that no English sides were interested, unless of course he'd made it clear he wanted to move abroad.killerandflash said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9454566/barcelona-sign-england-louie-barry-psg-transfer/
Another club losing one of their academy stars. This time it's WBA losing England youth striker Louie Barry to Barcelona, getting just £235000 compensation
West brom to Barca - what a move. Great experience for him.0 -
I think West Brom have had Barcelona over here. Its actually going to be Gareth Barry that turns up to sign for them.killerandflash said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9454566/barcelona-sign-england-louie-barry-psg-transfer/
Another club losing one of their academy stars. This time it's WBA losing England youth striker Louie Barry to Barcelona, getting just £235000 compensation3 -
And also there’s a clue in the thread titleBig_Bad_World said:Redrobo said:
I think you are confusing me with someone who cares. 😐Big_Bad_World said:Redrobo said:
Who him?Big_Bad_World said:It was reported yesterday that we had agreed a £750k fee with Reading for Jón Dadi Bödvarsson.
Icelandic winger/striker, formerly of Wolves, now at Reading.Has to be an improvement on Tom Elliott. Anything would be an improvement on Tom Elliott.
Oh, right. It's just that you asked a question so I thought I'd be polite and answer it.Sorry, tough guy.
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Am sure Barcelona would be delighted to see Gareth Barry again and will no doubt send a taxi for his own personal use againricky_otto said:
I think West Brom have had Barcelona over here. Its actually going to be Gareth Barry that turns up to sign for them.killerandflash said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9454566/barcelona-sign-england-louie-barry-psg-transfer/
Another club losing one of their academy stars. This time it's WBA losing England youth striker Louie Barry to Barcelona, getting just £235000 compensation1
