I am sure Parker was not our first choice,but he is a decent player.Grants goalscoring ratio was diabolical before he teamed up with Taylor,and I am sure Parker will score enough to sway the doubters.With regards the incoming transfer money,this is how clubs survive.Sunderland,Portsmouth supporters have stuck by their clubs through turbulant times,even Crowds at Luton now approach 10000.These clubs could afford to get more people in.It is no good boycotting the club and then moan about selling players to cover the deficit.When we got relegated after our first season in the premier league I think we only sold Danny Mills,our crowds were only 2-3000 down on the premier league attendancies ,the club was able to pay its way.I am not in any way supporting RD but football clubs are a business,and owners dont like losing money(especially if they are hated as much as RD is)
You need to get yourself a calculator and work out the actual benefit of a situation where crowds “now approach 10,000”. That’s about £4m in annual revenue if you’re lucky, once you allow for VAT and concessions. Charlton’s operating costs will be in the region of £15m. Total revenue is about £7m.
If Luton’s cost base is anywhere near £4m (unlikely) hence they can afford to bring players in, ask yourself why we are spending four times what they are but are behind them in the league.
Increased crowds will make no difference to Duchatelet’s policy of selling whoever he can whenever he can and he has no other plan.
Hopefully he'll be a bit like Danny Haynes. Strong, quick, surprisingly good with his head, ususally shoved out wide because of his pace but can flourish at centre forward. Granted Haynes was pretty ineffectual in L1 the half season we were there with him but after that he was on fire in the brief periods where he wasn't hogging the physio table. If you offered me 'Danny Haynes but his hamstrings work' I'd take it, so fingers crossed
Sometimes players look better in a better team, I am guessing Parker was the insurance for Eisa deal not going through. Lets see how he gets on. Might be good that expectations are not high.
Seems more of a back up for Lyle than a straight replacement for Karlan. I wonder whether bow's may be tempted to revert back to a 4 5 1 we've certainly got a lot midfield.
I dont know much about Luton but I doubt very much if they have the training facilities and academy set up that we have,their stadium is half the size of ours and therefore I am sure our running costs are much more than theirs.With regards blaming boycotters for lack of signings,of course crowd levels affect losses at the club,but my point is if you were in Rolands place would you sanction outlay on players if you were hated and ridiculed even on your own doorstep,he openly wants rid of the club,and if anyone thinks he is going to spend more than necessarry to keep it going they are in cuckoo land.
guess its already been mentioned but I presume the only reason even this deal went through is because Ricky Holmes made it possible. they bought in a winger so we were able to buy their winger. another reason for people to respect Holmes.
anyone who thought/said we would get any of the transfer budget go and stand in the corner NOW !
Until The Rat goes we trade in the Poundland rejects bucket .The fact that we were 4th until this window reflects just how well Bowyer and his support staff are doing ------ longer term is very bleak .
I guess any money received for KG went towards the debt CAFC owe to Strapix.
Don’t really know anything about him but logic tells me that Bowyer/ Gallen rate him / have chose him over Ricky Holmes.
Would those unhappy have been happier if we had announced Holmes?
. If they rated him so highly why a 6 month contract? I
Because in footballing terms it’s a short term fill. At a wider level we have a business that loses £500-600k a month, that the owner is looking to sell, and one way of making it more attractive is to reduce overheads / medium term commitments as much as possible. As a journeyman, Parker is unlikely to increase in valuation so there is little strategic gain in committing him for longer, imo
Is it also because we have reached the maximum number of loanees allowed?
Don’t really know anything about him but logic tells me that Bowyer/ Gallen rate him / have chose him over Ricky Holmes.
Would those unhappy have been happier if we had announced Holmes?
. If they rated him so highly why a 6 month contract? I
Because in footballing terms it’s a short term fill. At a wider level we have a business that loses £500-600k a month, that the owner is looking to sell, and one way of making it more attractive is to reduce overheads / medium term commitments as much as possible. As a journeyman, Parker is unlikely to increase in valuation so there is little strategic gain in committing him for longer, imo
Is it also because we have reached the maximum number of loanees allowed?
Nope, we've still got one more spot; Eisa would have made it the maximum number that are allowed in a matchday squad
I dont know much about Luton but I doubt very much if they have the training facilities and academy set up that we have,their stadium is half the size of ours and therefore I am sure our running costs are much more than theirs.With regards blaming boycotters for lack of signings,of course crowd levels affect losses at the club,but my point is if you were in Rolands place would you sanction outlay on players if you were hated and ridiculed even on your own doorstep,he openly wants rid of the club,and if anyone thinks he is going to spend more than necessarry to keep it going they are in cuckoo land.
Let’s be clear - it’s not net spending he would have been sanctioning. It’s reinvesting some of the money he didn’t have before this month in pursuit of a stronger financial position at the end of the season. Any business can sell its plant but it can’t be surprised if its ability to trade successfully declines as a consequence.
Of course Luton’s costs are much lower but my point is that you massively overstate the impact of rising crowds on their overall financial position and at Charlton such an effect would be negligible in terms of policy.
In Steve Gallen I trust. To identify a player who is quick, strong, good in the air but has been played out of position is why our Head of Recruitment is special. I predict goals at the same rate as KG.
If he’s got pace and a brain then he will get chances alongside Taylor. It’s just whether he can take them. Perhaps Bowyer might see Fosu as the player to replace Grant, we know from last season he’s got the quality.
I am sure Parker was not our first choice,but he is a decent player.Grants goalscoring ratio was diabolical before he teamed up with Taylor,and I am sure Parker will score enough to sway the doubters.With regards the incoming transfer money,this is how clubs survive.Sunderland,Portsmouth supporters have stuck by their clubs through turbulant times,even Crowds at Luton now approach 10000.These clubs could afford to get more people in.It is no good boycotting the club and then moan about selling players to cover the deficit.When we got relegated after our first season in the premier league I think we only sold Danny Mills,our crowds were only 2-3000 down on the premier league attendancies ,the club was able to pay its way.I am not in any way supporting RD but football clubs are a business,and owners dont like losing money(especially if they are hated as much as RD is)
Nonsense.
Grant was scoring before Taylor. He's scored more than Parker
I am sure Parker was not our first choice,but he is a decent player.Grants goalscoring ratio was diabolical before he teamed up with Taylor,and I am sure Parker will score enough to sway the doubters.With regards the incoming transfer money,this is how clubs survive.Sunderland,Portsmouth supporters have stuck by their clubs through turbulant times,even Crowds at Luton now approach 10000.These clubs could afford to get more people in.It is no good boycotting the club and then moan about selling players to cover the deficit.When we got relegated after our first season in the premier league I think we only sold Danny Mills,our crowds were only 2-3000 down on the premier league attendancies ,the club was able to pay its way.I am not in any way supporting RD but football clubs are a business,and owners dont like losing money(especially if they are hated as much as RD is)
Nonsense.
Grant was scoring before Taylor. He's scored more than Parker
And you then revert to blaming other fans. Let it go, you're wrong, the fans aren't the problem, Roland is.
Oh behave... Taylor after all was the reason Karlan scored all those goals @ Crawley!!
JOSH PARKER’S story is so nuts, the fact he went from playing for Red Star Belgrade to working in a coffee shop two years later is not the most bonkers part of it.
The winger, now at Gillingham, blazed a trail by becoming the only English-born footballer to play in Slovenia and then Serbia.
But the latter move turned into a nightmare which involved a legal fight over breach of contract.
During that time Parker claims he:
Secretly recorded his manager contradicting club chiefs to build a case against Red Star. Missed out on a megabucks move to China because the mother of his son refused to travel there prior to a long-standing custody battle. Was forced to train on his own in the DARK for three months without even being allowed to kick a football. Snubbed doctor’s advice to take antidepressants after climbing the walls with boredom in a ramshackle Belgrade hotel which was “worse than prison”.
Parker, who has also appeared on TV show Come Dine With Me, said: “Many people have told me that my story would make a good book.”
The 28-year-old began his career at QPR where he was given his debut by Neil Warnock, who he comes face-to-face with today when Gills host Cardiff in the FA Cup third round.
But due to what Parker labels “the politics of football”, his career in England stalled as he was released by Oxford in 2013.
It left him unemployed, relying on loans from his mum and looking after his baby son.
He found a way back into the game by joining Domzale in Slovenia, despite having never heard of the country before his 2013 move.
There he fell out with “crazy” boss Stevan Mojsilovic, whose madcap training ideas included tying players’ hands together with rope for shuttle runs and doing hurdles and 40-minute sprints at 9am on the day of night games. Mojsilovic was axed and Parker shone under his replacement, earning interest from Red Star, Swiss side Grasshoppers and Sturm Graz of Austria.
He says he also had an offer from Beijing worth £360,000 a year after tax, but was forced to turn it down when son Cairo’s mum refused to travel there due to a court fight over visiting rights.
Instead, Parker opted for Serbian giants Red Star in 2015. But he was caught cold by the intense scrutiny, starting with 30 paparazzi snapping him at the airport, and by fans who hammered him when he failed to score.
His form dipped and tensions rose when the club refused to allow Parker to travel home after his nan died.
Following a short loan spell at Aberdeen, he returned to Belgrade but refused to cut short the 2½ years left on his deal without a pay-off, so Red Star left him to rot.
Parker claimed: “They said, ‘We can make things really hard for you, we’ll make you suffer’. From that point on, for three months, I didn’t touch a football.
“They made me come in every day but I wasn’t allowed to socialise or train with the team.
“We’d train at night but I was on a separate pitch on my own, where the floodlights were off, with no balls, no equipment and no coach. I’d run around in circles in the dark.”
The Slough-born wideman roomed alone in the antiquated hotel the club used, with no internet and no TV.
For entertainment he would walk to a nearby shopping centre but not buy anything as his wages were often several months late.
He explained: “It was the hardest time of my life. I lost loads of weight, I started going through anxiety and depression. I’d nothing to stimulate me.
“It was worse than prison. I was without my family and the friends I did have I wasn’t allowed to talk to.”
He started keeping a video diary of his isolated existence before secretly recording his coach — using a phone hidden in a football boot — claiming he could not pick him due to the club’s hierarchy.
Parker used the recordings, plus hundreds of documents he kept, for a case he took to Fifa claiming breach of contract after terminating his deal.
Red Star counter-sued for a whopping £1.8million.
The 1991 Champions League winners would not release his international transfer papers, meaning he was forced out of the game between June 2016 and February 2017.
Parker, who received online death threats at the time, added: “I was in a bad way. I went to the doctors and they were trying to prescribe me medication for depression and anxiety and even asking me if I’d thought about suicide.
“I didn’t take the medicine as I’m a vegan and don’t believe in it. I was thinking, ‘How am I going to pay back two million euros? You might as well dig my grave now and put me in it’.”
During his eight-month hiatus he worked at a hip hop-styled cafe his old youth coach Tony Thompson set up in Willesden Green, west London.
He would open up at 6am and serve the same coffee, no matter whether the order was for a latte or a flat white, just in different sized cups.
Eventually he began training for non-league Wealdstone, when his transfer papers came through, and soon after he joined Gills.
On December 1, 2017, he got news he had won his case against Red Star and was due six-figure compensation.
The Antigua and Barbuda captain wanted to weep with joy.
Yet he claims he is still to see a penny, suggesting this crazy story is not quite over.
Feel sorry for him yet find its a joke that FIFA always seem to continue to go after the easy cases yet dont come down hard on clubs like Red Star especially as Parker cant be the sole recipient of that treatment
Like him more now after reading that and really hope he succeeds with us
JOSH PARKER’S story is so nuts, the fact he went from playing for Red Star Belgrade to working in a coffee shop two years later is not the most bonkers part of it.
The winger, now at Gillingham, blazed a trail by becoming the only English-born footballer to play in Slovenia and then Serbia.
But the latter move turned into a nightmare which involved a legal fight over breach of contract.
During that time Parker claims he:
Secretly recorded his manager contradicting club chiefs to build a case against Red Star. Missed out on a megabucks move to China because the mother of his son refused to travel there prior to a long-standing custody battle. Was forced to train on his own in the DARK for three months without even being allowed to kick a football. Snubbed doctor’s advice to take antidepressants after climbing the walls with boredom in a ramshackle Belgrade hotel which was “worse than prison”.
Parker, who has also appeared on TV show Come Dine With Me, said: “Many people have told me that my story would make a good book.”
The 28-year-old began his career at QPR where he was given his debut by Neil Warnock, who he comes face-to-face with today when Gills host Cardiff in the FA Cup third round.
But due to what Parker labels “the politics of football”, his career in England stalled as he was released by Oxford in 2013.
It left him unemployed, relying on loans from his mum and looking after his baby son.
He found a way back into the game by joining Domzale in Slovenia, despite having never heard of the country before his 2013 move.
There he fell out with “crazy” boss Stevan Mojsilovic, whose madcap training ideas included tying players’ hands together with rope for shuttle runs and doing hurdles and 40-minute sprints at 9am on the day of night games. Mojsilovic was axed and Parker shone under his replacement, earning interest from Red Star, Swiss side Grasshoppers and Sturm Graz of Austria.
He says he also had an offer from Beijing worth £360,000 a year after tax, but was forced to turn it down when son Cairo’s mum refused to travel there due to a court fight over visiting rights.
Instead, Parker opted for Serbian giants Red Star in 2015. But he was caught cold by the intense scrutiny, starting with 30 paparazzi snapping him at the airport, and by fans who hammered him when he failed to score.
His form dipped and tensions rose when the club refused to allow Parker to travel home after his nan died.
Following a short loan spell at Aberdeen, he returned to Belgrade but refused to cut short the 2½ years left on his deal without a pay-off, so Red Star left him to rot.
Parker claimed: “They said, ‘We can make things really hard for you, we’ll make you suffer’. From that point on, for three months, I didn’t touch a football.
“They made me come in every day but I wasn’t allowed to socialise or train with the team.
“We’d train at night but I was on a separate pitch on my own, where the floodlights were off, with no balls, no equipment and no coach. I’d run around in circles in the dark.”
The Slough-born wideman roomed alone in the antiquated hotel the club used, with no internet and no TV.
For entertainment he would walk to a nearby shopping centre but not buy anything as his wages were often several months late.
He explained: “It was the hardest time of my life. I lost loads of weight, I started going through anxiety and depression. I’d nothing to stimulate me.
“It was worse than prison. I was without my family and the friends I did have I wasn’t allowed to talk to.”
He started keeping a video diary of his isolated existence before secretly recording his coach — using a phone hidden in a football boot — claiming he could not pick him due to the club’s hierarchy.
Parker used the recordings, plus hundreds of documents he kept, for a case he took to Fifa claiming breach of contract after terminating his deal.
Red Star counter-sued for a whopping £1.8million.
The 1991 Champions League winners would not release his international transfer papers, meaning he was forced out of the game between June 2016 and February 2017.
Parker, who received online death threats at the time, added: “I was in a bad way. I went to the doctors and they were trying to prescribe me medication for depression and anxiety and even asking me if I’d thought about suicide.
“I didn’t take the medicine as I’m a vegan and don’t believe in it. I was thinking, ‘How am I going to pay back two million euros? You might as well dig my grave now and put me in it’.”
During his eight-month hiatus he worked at a hip hop-styled cafe his old youth coach Tony Thompson set up in Willesden Green, west London.
He would open up at 6am and serve the same coffee, no matter whether the order was for a latte or a flat white, just in different sized cups.
Eventually he began training for non-league Wealdstone, when his transfer papers came through, and soon after he joined Gills.
On December 1, 2017, he got news he had won his case against Red Star and was due six-figure compensation.
The Antigua and Barbuda captain wanted to weep with joy.
Yet he claims he is still to see a penny, suggesting this crazy story is not quite over.
Right, I can’t wait to see him play now after reading that. Very much want to see him do well.
Don’t really know anything about him but logic tells me that Bowyer/ Gallen rate him / have chose him over Ricky Holmes.
Would those unhappy have been happier if we had announced Holmes?
. If they rated him so highly why a 6 month contract? I
Because in footballing terms it’s a short term fill. At a wider level we have a business that loses £500-600k a month, that the owner is looking to sell, and one way of making it more attractive is to reduce overheads / medium term commitments as much as possible. As a journeyman, Parker is unlikely to increase in valuation so there is little strategic gain in committing him for longer, imo
Is it also because we have reached the maximum number of loanees allowed?
Nope, we've still got one more spot; Eisa would have made it the maximum number that are allowed in a matchday squad
OK, thanks does that mean we can still get another loan in or has that window closed as well?
Looks decent on the goal reel. Quick, powerful, good in the air and a strong shot on him. Ive got a good feeling about this fella, despite never having heard of him before! Could have done with another forward, but i think we all knew the best we could have hoped for was one. If Bowyer gets us anywhere near the autos, after all thats happened, he should be manager of the season. COYA
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If Luton’s cost base is anywhere near £4m (unlikely) hence they can afford to bring players in, ask yourself why we are spending four times what they are but are behind them in the league.
Increased crowds will make no difference to Duchatelet’s policy of selling whoever he can whenever he can and he has no other plan.
Of course Luton’s costs are much lower but my point is that you massively overstate the impact of rising crowds on their overall financial position and at Charlton such an effect would be negligible in terms of policy.
Grant was scoring before Taylor. He's scored more than Parker
https://thesun.co.uk/sport/football/8123065/gillingham-josh-parker-football-serbia-cardiff-fa-cup/
JOSH PARKER’S story is so nuts, the fact he went from playing for Red Star Belgrade to working in a coffee shop two years later is not the most bonkers part of it.
The winger, now at Gillingham, blazed a trail by becoming the only English-born footballer to play in Slovenia and then Serbia.
But the latter move turned into a nightmare which involved a legal fight over breach of contract.
During that time Parker claims he:
Secretly recorded his manager contradicting club chiefs to build a case against Red Star.
Missed out on a megabucks move to China because the mother of his son refused to travel there prior to a long-standing custody battle.
Was forced to train on his own in the DARK for three months without even being allowed to kick a football.
Snubbed doctor’s advice to take antidepressants after climbing the walls with boredom in a ramshackle Belgrade hotel which was “worse than prison”.
Parker, who has also appeared on TV show Come Dine With Me, said: “Many people have told me that my story would make a good book.”
The 28-year-old began his career at QPR where he was given his debut by Neil Warnock, who he comes face-to-face with today when Gills host Cardiff in the FA Cup third round.
But due to what Parker labels “the politics of football”, his career in England stalled as he was released by Oxford in 2013.
It left him unemployed, relying on loans from his mum and looking after his baby son.
He found a way back into the game by joining Domzale in Slovenia, despite having never heard of the country before his 2013 move.
There he fell out with “crazy” boss Stevan Mojsilovic, whose madcap training ideas included tying players’ hands together with rope for shuttle runs and doing hurdles and 40-minute sprints at 9am on the day of night games.
Mojsilovic was axed and Parker shone under his replacement, earning interest from Red Star, Swiss side Grasshoppers and Sturm Graz of Austria.
He says he also had an offer from Beijing worth £360,000 a year after tax, but was forced to turn it down when son Cairo’s mum refused to travel there due to a court fight over visiting rights.
Instead, Parker opted for Serbian giants Red Star in 2015. But he was caught cold by the intense scrutiny, starting with 30 paparazzi snapping him at the airport, and by fans who hammered him when he failed to score.
His form dipped and tensions rose when the club refused to allow Parker to travel home after his nan died.
Following a short loan spell at Aberdeen, he returned to Belgrade but refused to cut short the 2½ years left on his deal without a pay-off, so Red Star left him to rot.
Parker claimed: “They said, ‘We can make things really hard for you, we’ll make you suffer’. From that point on, for three months, I didn’t touch a football.
“They made me come in every day but I wasn’t allowed to socialise or train with the team.
“We’d train at night but I was on a separate pitch on my own, where the floodlights were off, with no balls, no equipment and no coach. I’d run around in circles in the dark.”
The Slough-born wideman roomed alone in the antiquated hotel the club used, with no internet and no TV.
For entertainment he would walk to a nearby shopping centre but not buy anything as his wages were often several months late.
He explained: “It was the hardest time of my life. I lost loads of weight, I started going through anxiety and depression. I’d nothing to stimulate me.
“It was worse than prison. I was without my family and the friends I did have I wasn’t allowed to talk to.”
He started keeping a video diary of his isolated existence before secretly recording his coach — using a phone hidden in a football boot — claiming he could not pick him due to the club’s hierarchy.
Parker used the recordings, plus hundreds of documents he kept, for a case he took to Fifa claiming breach of contract after terminating his deal.
Red Star counter-sued for a whopping £1.8million.
The 1991 Champions League winners would not release his international transfer papers, meaning he was forced out of the game between June 2016 and February 2017.
Parker, who received online death threats at the time, added: “I was in a bad way. I went to the doctors and they were trying to prescribe me medication for depression and anxiety and even asking me if I’d thought about suicide.
“I didn’t take the medicine as I’m a vegan and don’t believe in it. I was thinking, ‘How am I going to pay back two million euros? You might as well dig my grave now and put me in it’.”
During his eight-month hiatus he worked at a hip hop-styled cafe his old youth coach Tony Thompson set up in Willesden Green, west London.
He would open up at 6am and serve the same coffee, no matter whether the order was for a latte or a flat white, just in different sized cups.
Eventually he began training for non-league Wealdstone, when his transfer papers came through, and soon after he joined Gills.
On December 1, 2017, he got news he had won his case against Red Star and was due six-figure compensation.
The Antigua and Barbuda captain wanted to weep with joy.
Yet he claims he is still to see a penny, suggesting this crazy story is not quite over.
Like him more now after reading that and really hope he succeeds with us