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  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955

    Dont get all the Pompey fans bashing tbh, i spent 7 years living and working there, and had a great time - good people. The 'inbreds' bit just sounds a bit childish tbh.
    Plus in terms of their fans, they are one of the best in the country for following their team through thick and thin.

    Actually agree with this.
    Always enjoyed games against them, of which there have been many, including trips to Fratton Park. Really enjoyed my first trip there in January 1976, when we won an FA Cup replay 3-0.
    There are far worse places to visit.
    Yeah, that one. I was there, being a student, and it seemed like I was the only Charlton fan there in a 32,000 crowd that thought it was going to be some kind of renaissance game -they were bottom of Div 2, we were halfway. I got separated from my neutral student buddies on the terrace, and watched the game on my own.Some Pompey bloke behind me had a go at me, so I turned round and tried to just face him down, and nothing happened. Two weeks later in the bar of the Centre Hotel there he was, with his girlfriend, looking at me, and I could see his brain trying to work out how this could possibly be, that I was still in Portsmouth. Meanwhile my brain was working out how large his biceps were, something I hadn't noticed two weeks earlier. Fortunately my great Pompey mate with me negotiated an honourable settlement.

    I hated the place, as a city, but I loved my six months in Grimsby the year before. Grimsby...these are just the hands life deals you. Beating them, especially at their gaff, is a close third for me after winning at Selhurst and the Rustbucket. Cheers!
    I was also at Fratton Park for that Cup game in 1976.

    But it was a decent sized Charlton contingent that went ..... about a dozen coaches, and loads had come down on the train. Plenty of us Charlton there, Prague.

    Then we took a massive crowd to top tier Wolves in the next round - lost 3-0 but hell of a good day out.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    Great as Lapslie was, important to also note just how fantastic Bielik was as well - this might have been his midfield coming-of-age too (we already know he can play CB)
  • Oggy Red said:

    Dont get all the Pompey fans bashing tbh, i spent 7 years living and working there, and had a great time - good people. The 'inbreds' bit just sounds a bit childish tbh.
    Plus in terms of their fans, they are one of the best in the country for following their team through thick and thin.

    Actually agree with this.
    Always enjoyed games against them, of which there have been many, including trips to Fratton Park. Really enjoyed my first trip there in January 1976, when we won an FA Cup replay 3-0.
    There are far worse places to visit.
    Yeah, that one. I was there, being a student, and it seemed like I was the only Charlton fan there in a 32,000 crowd that thought it was going to be some kind of renaissance game -they were bottom of Div 2, we were halfway. I got separated from my neutral student buddies on the terrace, and watched the game on my own.Some Pompey bloke behind me had a go at me, so I turned round and tried to just face him down, and nothing happened. Two weeks later in the bar of the Centre Hotel there he was, with his girlfriend, looking at me, and I could see his brain trying to work out how this could possibly be, that I was still in Portsmouth. Meanwhile my brain was working out how large his biceps were, something I hadn't noticed two weeks earlier. Fortunately my great Pompey mate with me negotiated an honourable settlement.

    I hated the place, as a city, but I loved my six months in Grimsby the year before. Grimsby...these are just the hands life deals you. Beating them, especially at their gaff, is a close third for me after winning at Selhurst and the Rustbucket. Cheers!
    I was also at Fratton Park for that Cup game in 1976.

    But it was a decent sized Charlton contingent that went ..... about a dozen coaches, and loads had come down on the train. Plenty of us Charlton there, Prague.

    Then we took a massive crowd to top tier Wolves in the next round - lost 3-0 but hell of a good day out.
    Remember that as well. My first ever away trip on my own at the age of 13.
    Things were obviously very different then, as I can't imagine letting my boy, who is nearly 15, even going to a home game on his own (although we do live about 65 miles from The Valley).
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006

    RedChaser said:

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    Watched on a stream. We were fuckin awesome all over the pitch.

    Special mentions to Lapslie who I thought was a warrior and looked like Scott Parker at times.

    Big Naby, who’ve ive been critical of, he was immense and collective.

    Bielik really showed why Arsenal still have him real class act at times.

    And the obvious warriors in Pearce and Taylor.

    Excellent, might just be able to forget the cup now if we do Wimbledon Saturday, but wouldn’t it just be so charlton of us to fuck io Saturday though..

    The further injuries tonight won't make the task any easier against Wimbledon; getting right down to the bare bones now :disappointed:
    But apparently Bowyer was wrong to play a second eleven in the cup.
    Bloke who played in the Cup scored the winner today.
    And.....
    I'd be far more concerned with the injuries that we already have and the injuries that we may have picked up tonight. I'd rather have Taylor and Grant up front on Saturday than Ajose and Reeco.
    Emergency loan ? Is that possible?
    No such thing anymore (apart from goalies I think).
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    I can't stop watching the Lapslie save. It's mesmerising
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,333
    Oggy Red said:

    Dont get all the Pompey fans bashing tbh, i spent 7 years living and working there, and had a great time - good people. The 'inbreds' bit just sounds a bit childish tbh.
    Plus in terms of their fans, they are one of the best in the country for following their team through thick and thin.

    Actually agree with this.
    Always enjoyed games against them, of which there have been many, including trips to Fratton Park. Really enjoyed my first trip there in January 1976, when we won an FA Cup replay 3-0.
    There are far worse places to visit.
    Yeah, that one. I was there, being a student, and it seemed like I was the only Charlton fan there in a 32,000 crowd that thought it was going to be some kind of renaissance game -they were bottom of Div 2, we were halfway. I got separated from my neutral student buddies on the terrace, and watched the game on my own.Some Pompey bloke behind me had a go at me, so I turned round and tried to just face him down, and nothing happened. Two weeks later in the bar of the Centre Hotel there he was, with his girlfriend, looking at me, and I could see his brain trying to work out how this could possibly be, that I was still in Portsmouth. Meanwhile my brain was working out how large his biceps were, something I hadn't noticed two weeks earlier. Fortunately my great Pompey mate with me negotiated an honourable settlement.

    I hated the place, as a city, but I loved my six months in Grimsby the year before. Grimsby...these are just the hands life deals you. Beating them, especially at their gaff, is a close third for me after winning at Selhurst and the Rustbucket. Cheers!
    I was also at Fratton Park for that Cup game in 1976.

    But it was a decent sized Charlton contingent that went ..... about a dozen coaches, and loads had come down on the train. Plenty of us Charlton there, Prague.

    Then we took a massive crowd to top tier Wolves in the next round - lost 3-0 but hell of a good day out.
    Was at the Wolves game as a 14 year old traveled on my own. John Richards scored a hat trick I believe. It was a little naughty outside if I remember correctly.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    edited December 2018
    Love that performance, watched it on ifollow.

    Steer a bit flappy but a reliable performance, Pearcey just simply doesn't lose headers, Bauer solid, Anfernee looked very comfortable first half, lot of love for Naby, to go from such an unpopular player to a player clearly everyone wants to do well is something and a credit to the man, solid from him. Bielik like a different man from Blackpool, looked very assured in the mid, Reeves looked tidy before he came off, Marshall was Marshall can't knock him, Grant rapid, good to see him score again, Ajose was pretty poor but he scored the winner so he's alright, Taylor is simply the man, best striker in the league and would be one of the best even the level above, Aribo is now a key player, feels very dependable in the starting line up now. Best till last, Lapslie. Absolutely love him, he is raw but just has a bit of everything about him, covered every blade of grass tonight, excellent commitment and will hopefully really kick on from that performance.

    As for Pompey I can see why they are up there, until Thompson made that poor tackle he had a class game, Matt Clarke has to be one of the best centre backs I've seen in this league along side our lot, good on the ball and a decent defender but their stand out player was Lowe, very good winger and if they don't go up he won't be there long I imagine. In the end I don't think anyone could argue too much about our win but a draw also wouldn't have been a complete disaster.

    Safe travels home Addicks
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,145
    Oggy Red said:

    Dont get all the Pompey fans bashing tbh, i spent 7 years living and working there, and had a great time - good people. The 'inbreds' bit just sounds a bit childish tbh.
    Plus in terms of their fans, they are one of the best in the country for following their team through thick and thin.

    Actually agree with this.
    Always enjoyed games against them, of which there have been many, including trips to Fratton Park. Really enjoyed my first trip there in January 1976, when we won an FA Cup replay 3-0.
    There are far worse places to visit.
    Yeah, that one. I was there, being a student, and it seemed like I was the only Charlton fan there in a 32,000 crowd that thought it was going to be some kind of renaissance game -they were bottom of Div 2, we were halfway. I got separated from my neutral student buddies on the terrace, and watched the game on my own.Some Pompey bloke behind me had a go at me, so I turned round and tried to just face him down, and nothing happened. Two weeks later in the bar of the Centre Hotel there he was, with his girlfriend, looking at me, and I could see his brain trying to work out how this could possibly be, that I was still in Portsmouth. Meanwhile my brain was working out how large his biceps were, something I hadn't noticed two weeks earlier. Fortunately my great Pompey mate with me negotiated an honourable settlement.

    I hated the place, as a city, but I loved my six months in Grimsby the year before. Grimsby...these are just the hands life deals you. Beating them, especially at their gaff, is a close third for me after winning at Selhurst and the Rustbucket. Cheers!
    I was also at Fratton Park for that Cup game in 1976.

    But it was a decent sized Charlton contingent that went ..... about a dozen coaches, and loads had come down on the train. Plenty of us Charlton there, Prague.

    Then we took a massive crowd to top tier Wolves in the next round - lost 3-0 but hell of a good day out.
    Well I don't doubt for one moment that you were there, but where the ???? you all were, i will never know, because I didn't see or hear any large group in any location. If I'd seen it, I would have headed for it, it was pretty much all free terracing in those days. 3-0, and I thought I was celebrating on my own.

    I didnt go to Wolves, but I could see on the the telly clips the huge Charlton contingent, which only made me think again, where was everybody at Fratton?

    Do you remember being in a big Charlton group, Oggy, and if so, where in the ground?

  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    Just wanna add as well the Pompey fans bed wetting is hilarious. Alright the ref had a blunder with Lapslie running the ball of the pitch and he missed a few fouls for both sides, but according to a lot of their fans they should have had at least 3 penalties?! What a load of shite
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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    Bloody brilliantly!

    Can we play every match at Fratton Park?
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    Oggy Red said:

    Dont get all the Pompey fans bashing tbh, i spent 7 years living and working there, and had a great time - good people. The 'inbreds' bit just sounds a bit childish tbh.
    Plus in terms of their fans, they are one of the best in the country for following their team through thick and thin.

    Actually agree with this.
    Always enjoyed games against them, of which there have been many, including trips to Fratton Park. Really enjoyed my first trip there in January 1976, when we won an FA Cup replay 3-0.
    There are far worse places to visit.
    Yeah, that one. I was there, being a student, and it seemed like I was the only Charlton fan there in a 32,000 crowd that thought it was going to be some kind of renaissance game -they were bottom of Div 2, we were halfway. I got separated from my neutral student buddies on the terrace, and watched the game on my own.Some Pompey bloke behind me had a go at me, so I turned round and tried to just face him down, and nothing happened. Two weeks later in the bar of the Centre Hotel there he was, with his girlfriend, looking at me, and I could see his brain trying to work out how this could possibly be, that I was still in Portsmouth. Meanwhile my brain was working out how large his biceps were, something I hadn't noticed two weeks earlier. Fortunately my great Pompey mate with me negotiated an honourable settlement.

    I hated the place, as a city, but I loved my six months in Grimsby the year before. Grimsby...these are just the hands life deals you. Beating them, especially at their gaff, is a close third for me after winning at Selhurst and the Rustbucket. Cheers!
    I was also at Fratton Park for that Cup game in 1976.

    But it was a decent sized Charlton contingent that went ..... about a dozen coaches, and loads had come down on the train. Plenty of us Charlton there, Prague.

    Then we took a massive crowd to top tier Wolves in the next round - lost 3-0 but hell of a good day out.
    Hey, Prague and others of us veterans of the 1976 Cup win at Fratton.

    Look what I found on a Pompey website:
    http://www.pompeyvoices.co.uk/story/f16b10ba1c

    Pathetic, Pompey

    Come January, Pompey were rooted to the bottom of the table, and had been virtually since the season started. The club had been on a 17 match winless run between September and December, including a club record 9 match losing run between October and December.

    Not surprisingly, the fans turned to the F A Cup for some solace.

    A third round home tie with First Division Birmingham attracted 19,414 to Fratton to witness a 1-1 draw, and a Bobby McGuinness goal on the stroke of half time had won the replay.

    Next up in the fourth round were Charlton at The Valley, where a very late Norman Piper equaliser had cancelled out a first half penalty by Curtis.

    And so to Fratton for a Tuesday night replay, for the right to meet Wolves at Molineux. A big crowd was anticipated, but an attendance of over 31,000 surpassed all expectations, and preparations. Turnstiles ran out of change, and the situation in the main areas of concern, Specks Lane and Milton Lane, were described by one policeman as 'frightening'. Some fans were up to 35 minutes late getting into the ground, having queued for over an hour.

    The first half was goalless, Charlton had looked the better side, and had hit the bar, and Pompey had been reduced to high and hopeful tactics, which. with a low level strike force of Piper, McGuiness, and Eames, had produced nothing.

    The second half started with Paul Went thundering a shot just wide, and that was to be Pompey's only serious threat of the night. Suddenly Charlton had the game by the throat. A low angled cross by Hope was turned home by Powell, who ghosted in behind Mellows, and beat a statuesque Lloyd.

    Three minutes later, Hales got away from a ponderous Lawler, crossed, and Flanagans shot (pictured) skidded through Lloyd's hands.

    The rest was a formality, just before the end, Hope outpaced three defenders, rounded Lloyd, and angled home the third.

    Ashen faced Manager Ian St John apologised 'We never got started, never put anything together. It was scandalous, absolutely scandalous'.

    Effectively the season was now over. Pompey won only five more games, to finish bottom of the table, a distant 12 points from safety.

    Team: Grahame Lloyd, Chris Lawler, Micky Mellows, Phil Roberts, Paul Went, Paul Cahill, Bobby McGuiness, Norman Piper, George Graham, Richie Reynolds, Billy Eames (Sub Billy Wilson)

    Charlton: Tutt, Penfold, Warman, Hunt, Giles, Curtis, Powell, Hales, Hope, Peacock, Flanaghan.

    Attendance: 31,722
  • Alright the ref had a blunder with Lapslie running the ball of the pitch

    Thing is I don't think the whole of the ball was over the whole of the line , yes the base of the ball may have been off the pitch but the spherical shape of the ball means that that can happen and the ball still be covering the line and therefore be in play .
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    Lapslie MOM, ran forever and was a target for their bullying.
    Steer made a couple of vital high class saves.
    Pearce put his head in where nobody else would dare - 3 times in all, got a boot in the face and 2 headbutts for his trouble.
    Nabby was Like a brick wall when we needed it.
    That was proper Charlton.
    Well done lads.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited December 2018

    Alright the ref had a blunder with Lapslie running the ball of the pitch

    Thing is I don't think the whole of the ball was over the whole of the line , yes the base of the ball may have been off the pitch but the spherical shape of the ball means that that can happen and the ball still be covering the line and therefore be in play .
    And the Lino was about 5 yards away! He can't give what he can't see though if Lapslie's body was in the way.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359

    Alright the ref had a blunder with Lapslie running the ball of the pitch

    Thing is I don't think the whole of the ball was over the whole of the line , yes the base of the ball may have been off the pitch but the spherical shape of the ball means that that can happen and the ball still be covering the line and therefore be in play .
    I should have said lino, it's really hard to tell, I'm just going with Pompey's views if anything as from what I saw it was either just about on the line or just over. Trying to stay neutral about it but I genuinely think the ref had a good game and not because we won, be nice if we had a ref of that quality most games
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    What a heroic peformance by Lasplie reflecting on it, goal line face clearance, willingly took a big boot to the face, composure on the ball in all our build ups, usual dagger tackles, the run and attitude to get the ball in the area for the second. Has to be one of my favourite Charlton peformances I've seen recently, love that he is one of our own
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    Be a miracle if this comes out , head to head with Pompey since 1970
  • The Wolves match mentioned, was that were we were held inside for 20 minutes and marched to the station? A 1st for me. I thought it was a few years later.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955

    Oggy Red said:

    Dont get all the Pompey fans bashing tbh, i spent 7 years living and working there, and had a great time - good people. The 'inbreds' bit just sounds a bit childish tbh.
    Plus in terms of their fans, they are one of the best in the country for following their team through thick and thin.

    Actually agree with this.
    Always enjoyed games against them, of which there have been many, including trips to Fratton Park. Really enjoyed my first trip there in January 1976, when we won an FA Cup replay 3-0.
    There are far worse places to visit.
    Yeah, that one. I was there, being a student, and it seemed like I was the only Charlton fan there in a 32,000 crowd that thought it was going to be some kind of renaissance game -they were bottom of Div 2, we were halfway. I got separated from my neutral student buddies on the terrace, and watched the game on my own.Some Pompey bloke behind me had a go at me, so I turned round and tried to just face him down, and nothing happened. Two weeks later in the bar of the Centre Hotel there he was, with his girlfriend, looking at me, and I could see his brain trying to work out how this could possibly be, that I was still in Portsmouth. Meanwhile my brain was working out how large his biceps were, something I hadn't noticed two weeks earlier. Fortunately my great Pompey mate with me negotiated an honourable settlement.

    I hated the place, as a city, but I loved my six months in Grimsby the year before. Grimsby...these are just the hands life deals you. Beating them, especially at their gaff, is a close third for me after winning at Selhurst and the Rustbucket. Cheers!
    I was also at Fratton Park for that Cup game in 1976.

    But it was a decent sized Charlton contingent that went ..... about a dozen coaches, and loads had come down on the train. Plenty of us Charlton there, Prague.

    Then we took a massive crowd to top tier Wolves in the next round - lost 3-0 but hell of a good day out.
    Well I don't doubt for one moment that you were there, but where the ???? you all were, i will never know, because I didn't see or hear any large group in any location. If I'd seen it, I would have headed for it, it was pretty much all free terracing in those days. 3-0, and I thought I was celebrating on my own.

    I didnt go to Wolves, but I could see on the the telly clips the huge Charlton contingent, which only made me think again, where was everybody at Fratton?

    Do you remember being in a big Charlton group, Oggy, and if so, where in the ground?

    Well, it's a long time ago now, Prague so a bit hazy ..... evening game, and as the goals were all scored down at the far end, I must have been standing with my mates in the corner of the long side or the corner behind the other goal. Can't be precise now, but there were a decent number of us and great singing after the match walking down the street, going back to the coaches and station.

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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600

    stonemuse said:
    They are such a load of inbred cnuts.
    Oh yes, they are.

    Official trust view? Or just "banter"?

    Seriously though what a great result tonight, sounds like everyone man did his duty and george was outstanding? Love the tweet from naby after the game. E I e I o......
  • Halix
    Halix Posts: 2,237
    The quality paper that is the Newshopper has a post on Newstalk "Charlton win against 10 man Portsmouth", I know that this is strictly accurate but as the red card happened in injury time it does rather downgrade our performance.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    Halix said:

    The quality paper that is the Newshopper has a post on Newstalk "Charlton win against 10 man Portsmouth", I know that this is strictly accurate but as the red card happened in injury time it does rather downgrade our performance.

    They should have had two players sent off for that tackle, looked like a shocker from the away end.
  • I made my train

    Big thanks to Vince and the lads otherwise would be an Uber
    Happy days

  • What a brilliant performance!!

    Great to see the old results. I can go back a little earlier - Mar or Apr 1967 Pompey 1-2 CAFC. Charlton were flirting with relegation but Firmani's return gradually put paid to that. A second-half masterclass by Campbell and Firmani saw us home in a tough old game.

    Very proud of the team tonight - just hope they have something left for Saturday.
  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 11,790
    Question? Why were people listening to the Pompey commentary when Charlton was available. Our lot are ultra biased but I'd rather listen to our bias than someone else's.
  • Rob said:

    Question? Why were people listening to the Pompey commentary when Charlton was available. Our lot are ultra biased but I'd rather listen to our bias than someone else's.

    I’m presuming they were watching the game on iPlayer and it automatically (don’t know if you can change it ) comes with Pompey commentary , that’s what I did anyway
  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 11,790
    edited December 2018
    What I do is mute the iPlayer commentary and listen to the Charlton one on Valley Pass. Sometimes the two need syncing up but it's easy to do.
  • At the game.

    Charlton worked very hard for that and should take great heart from beating the best team in League One. Hope that's a sign to Roland to release some serious funds in January and take our credentials seriously.
    All the boys put a shift in. The three units of defence, midfield and forwards all made a massive contribution to this win tonight.
    We arrived on the coach with plenty of time to spare. It was a great throw back in time to spot the old fashioned floodlights as you come into the city and then to walk along classic terraced streets that surround the ground. You always have to doff your cap to the Fratton Park old tudor style facade - lovely. Enough of these polite pleasantries. Let's beat these so and so's.
    In the early stages, it was comforting to see Dijksteel settling in well into the right back role. Grant already, was looking particularly lively. Aribo too, was imposing his game. A little worried at this point with Lapslie playing some tentative balls.
    It took a while for Portsmouth to put together any viable threat and it came with a dangerous run through the middle by Ben Thompson. We responded with the perfect riposte. It involved good work by Aribo who fed Taylor with a header who crossed for Grant to put us ahead.
    Portsmouth like all good teams replied with gusto. They were getting good balls into the box but Pearce was once again looking ready for an all night battle. The injury curse struck again as Ajose replaced Grant.
    Pompey continued to work the flanks and as we approached h/t, they were seeing more of the ball now.
    This was all negated by some good persistent work by Lapslie. He seemed to have maneouvred himself into a no-mans land area but managed to put in a ball that Taylor flicked on with his head and was finished by Ajose. A great lead to take into half-time.
    Into the 2nd half and their major outlet seemed to be their No 3 Lee Brown as he pumped in numerous crosses into our box.
    After these worrying forays, Ajose went close as he shot across goal.
    Jamal Lowe was taking my eye now as a key dangerous player for them. Importantly, we weathered the storm for the first 10 min of the 2nd period.
    Then George Lapslie heroically blocked a shot with his face as you do.
    Around the hour mark, Pompey were trying to rile us and the stadium noise levels were noticeably on the increase. It was all getting a bit frenetic. We did at least manage to make a break in proceedings when Lyle Taylor forced good blocks from Matt Clarke and Tom Naylor.
    Solly had to come on for Bielik and I felt this could expose us by losing that aerial advantage in front of our back four.
    Shame about their goal as I felt they offered less cutting edge now with the ground beginning to empty out.
    The sending off was a godsend in additional time for us, as all that nonsense broke the play up and ruined Portsmouth's final opportunity to get anything out of the evening.
    A wonderful night to savour. Let's take this forward now and make our mark.